"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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In your past how much money you estimated you wasted on women?

Fatal Jay

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In my afc mode I estimated over 2 grand easy


I tried to add it up one night, and I just got sick and disgusted with myself, never ever again will I do this in my entire life.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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pdx1138

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Every time I get into a relationship, I'm unable to put away as much in savings. One year I saved nothing and that sucked.

Even if you're careful and have a chick you can go dutch with often, it still adds up. In my last 4 month relationship (dutched often) I spent $ 2000- 3000 I wouldn't have other wise. A good chunk being a 4 day Vegas trip.

Hookers or good girls, women cost you.
 

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not nearly as much as Drugs booze and gambling!!!!

Ive cut out the bets and drugs now and dont go out on the beers very often, but women have been a minor blip in comparison!
 

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Not too much money as I know where to put the foot down, but a bit too much time. I wouldn't say "wasted", but certainly there are moments where my time would have been spent better elsewhere.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I spend more when I'm with a girl, just because we're out generally doing things that cost money (ex: movie). I consider it worthwhile money spent.

When I was a total AFC, I bombed the same amounts of money, typically doubled up as I'd pay for the chick, too, for no results at all.

Probably a good three thousand or so. Maybe more, I'm not going to count it all up..
 

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Not a lot. A few dinners, maybe 5 movies. Less than $100 between many women. I invested millions worth emotionally. And by invested, I mean wasted.

I was very traditional and romantic - due to my proper, non-american upbringing. Had the whole fairytale love bull**** going on. But, it never got me anywhere, and I WAS very good looking, socially adept, had a nice car, solid personality, a backbone, and all that ****. Basically, the best of both worlds - like women SAY they want. All lies. They didnt want a hot good guy to marry, or whatever bull****. They just wanted ****, and actually got turned OFF by romantic, relationship / gentleman type ****. Gutter *****s, really. Their attraction shot up 600% once I finally had enough, lost interest, hated their guts, and treated them like garbage. Their attraction was also super high in the very beginning - when I wasnt very interested - only to plummet into the negatives when I *gasp*... wait for it... the mother of all evil... here it comes... get ready... showed interest back. OH, THE HORROR! Anything but that! SAVE ME JESUS!

Despite *****ing non-stop about *******s who used them for sex - thats EXACTLY what they responded to (and were themselves). They would actually, literally, seriously ***** about the same thing they went after. At the same time. Once they knew I was interested - it was game over. They would ***** about everyone who DIDNT want them, and treated those who did like ****. Pot and the ****ing kettle. They were addicted to the chase, had low self esteem, and ****ing **** **** **** ***** ***** I had the worst standards in the world.

This is why its so vital to pay attention to everything, and assume or believe nothing. Dont make things bigger than they are, or try changing anyone. And DONT sympathize with the damsel. Whatever they tell you is who they are, what they respond to, who they associate with, and what they feel they deserve. The whole truth is right in front of you. All that **** they reveal as theyre *****ing... Its all them.

But that **** can really **** up your views. Dont try saving troubled people, or getting caught up in their mess. Accept them just as they are RIGHT NOW - not how they used to be before they got "hurt" and betrayed (which, by the way, was all their fault for choosing *******s).

****ing ranting again ****.

**** my life.
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i'd say EASY less then 500$ maybe even less then $300

i conciser myself lucky.

though i did sell my xbox to my ex a few years ago. she gave me half the money. then a little later things started going south so i kept hassling her for the money. a month after i got the money she random txted me. tell me she got robbed and my old xbox got stolen. LOL! her mother though it was me? LOL LOL LOL.. was funny
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I've thought about this recently and to be honest since I began developing my game I haven't spent much more money on girls than I would spend on two or three nights out with my friends. Of course it's also because I'm young and I have never been in a LTR. My longest relationship lasted about a month and a half and I haven't spent a single coin on that girl.

But the girls that I go out with don't even want me to spend money on them, every time I suggested we go for a coffee or a beer or anything together, they refused and said that they'd much rather go for a walk. So I continued to just take them for a walk on a date, which also works best for me, since I can escalate much better.

I guess it's also thanks to the region where I live, there are still some good nice girls around. They are rare but I guess it's much better than in some other areas around the world. The girl I've met recently even suggested that she would take me for a beer and pay for it. A lot of them have no problems taking me somewhere and paying for me, though I almost always refuse becaue I feel too femine then. :D
 
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