In real life betas do win

[Jack Burton]

Its hard to say anything in regards to this situation without really knowing the couple and their relationship to say if the husband is beta or alpha. Perhaps the wife pushes him around all the time and he feels obligated to help her while she recovers or perhaps he does so because he respects and admires her and knows that behavior is how you treat someone you care about. Its the why of his actions, not the actions themselves. Beta males act to gain sex and attention or to avoid conflict. Alpha males act because it concurs with their code of conduct in what they believe is right or wrong....no matter what. Fear vs. Courage.

As far as red pill is concerned I think it has gotten plenty skewed by many people....

 

[wifehunter]

"In real life betas do win"


In a broken society... Nobody wins.

 

[Spaz]

I’m not sure that betas always win or that alphas always win.

There’s a lot of focus on controlling outcomes here. How realistic is that when in most other aspects of life (work, health etc) we can’t truly control the outcome, just better our odds but no guarantees.

Human beings are not puppets who will pull this way or that depending on how you angle your wrist. There is no red pill/pua/frame strategy that guarantees outcomes with other human beings who have minds and desires of their own.

I think all anyone can do is work to improve so they can be the best versions of their true selves to increase their odds of dating success. Anything fake is not sustainable and will be exhausting to maintain.

Some guys aren’t going to be ‘alpha’ but they’re not ejected from the dating pool. Some guys are not going to be ‘beta’ but it doesn’t make them immune to being hurt by women.

There really is something out there for every girl. Beta or alpha or whatever in between. We all know guys who fall on various spots along the spectrum of alpha or beta who are having some success at dating and relationships.

Yes there's no such thing as 100% success rate. It's foolish and delusional to think so.

What you can be certain of is that men who has a certain set of principles will enviably lean towards winning more in the game.

 

[Focal core]

You guys seem to think being alpha is about how successful you are or your occupation ECT alpha is a personality, beta is a personality, to put it in simple terms

Alpha=dominant personality
Beta=Passive personality

Alpha males are dominant, bold, assertive, aggressive, tough
All traits of masculinity

Alpha is masculinity at it's core.

A guy can work at McDonald's and be a alpha male because it's about his personality not what he does for a living lol.

It's about how you carry yourself and how you interact with others.

Couldnt agree less

 

[Focal core]

I’m not sure that betas always win or that alphas always win.

There’s a lot of focus on controlling outcomes here. How realistic is that when in most other aspects of life (work, health etc) we can’t truly control the outcome, just better our odds but no guarantees.

Human beings are not puppets who will pull this way or that depending on how you angle your wrist. There is no red pill/pua/frame strategy that guarantees outcomes with other human beings who have minds and desires of their own.

I think all anyone can do is work to improve so they can be the best versions of their true selves to increase their odds of dating success. Anything fake is not sustainable and will be exhausting to maintain.

Some guys aren’t going to be ‘alpha’ but they’re not ejected from the dating pool. Some guys are not going to be ‘beta’ but it doesn’t make them immune to being hurt by women.

There really is something out there for every girl. Beta or alpha or whatever in between. We all know guys who fall on various spots along the spectrum of alpha or beta who are having some success at dating and relationships.

For me i couldnt be with a passive girl because of my personality.. Ill be bored quickly. Alpha female at least or some trait with it could stand out among the rest.

Narcissist could be mistaken for a alpha female and alpha male thou..

Narc=lack of empathy

Filtering them out becomes easier as time passed

We can be assertive and reckless in some way..

 

[zekko]

Who goes dumpster diving in search of diamonds?