Harry Wilmington IDS
Don Juan
I was doing research on YouTube for dating video topics and came across an old Doc Love interview. I've always loved his advice and wanted to see what he was up to these days. Sadly, I found out that he passed away this year, in August 2020.
Surprisingly, I find myself being quite emotional about it.
For those of you who may be younger, many of the older people on these boards were regular readers and listeners of Doc Love's dating advice. In fact, many of the various principles talked about on these boards came from a variety of dating gurus that had "red pill" advice before it was called that, Doc Love being one of the major ones.
When I was struggling with dating in my early 20s, his was the first advice I came across that taught me ideas I viewed as "radical" at the time that would never, ever work with attracting women. Waiting 5 days after a date to call her? Preposterous! Not texting or calling between dates to chat? How could I?? Not accepting "maybe" dates and learning about what a "counter-offer" was? Never heard of such things!
And yet, his principles made a significant impact, not only on my dating life, but on my self-esteem and what it meant to be masculine (without having to be a jerk).
Now, some would argue that some of his principles could seem a little old-fashion. He was always quoting Cary Grant movies, and he tended to lean towards treating women nicer than some of his counter-parts, who would talk about things like neg-hitting and PUA principles. But, as a reforming nice guy, it was good to see that I could still dole out kindness and respectability to women and still attract them, albeit holding back a bit on being too nice too soon and being able to stand up for myself in a respectful way.
Thanks to him, I've been able to have the kind of dating life I never thought possible back in my teens and early 20s. Even to this day, I would still do the occasional listen to his program, do a yearly read-through of his book "The System," and look up old videos of his advice. I even called in to his show once (back in 2008) to ask a question, and being able to speak to him was quite a delight for me.
Anyway... just felt the need to type all that out. He impacted my life and the lives of so many other men in a positive way, and I hope he rests well knowing how helpful his advice and services truly were.
Surprisingly, I find myself being quite emotional about it.
For those of you who may be younger, many of the older people on these boards were regular readers and listeners of Doc Love's dating advice. In fact, many of the various principles talked about on these boards came from a variety of dating gurus that had "red pill" advice before it was called that, Doc Love being one of the major ones.
When I was struggling with dating in my early 20s, his was the first advice I came across that taught me ideas I viewed as "radical" at the time that would never, ever work with attracting women. Waiting 5 days after a date to call her? Preposterous! Not texting or calling between dates to chat? How could I?? Not accepting "maybe" dates and learning about what a "counter-offer" was? Never heard of such things!
And yet, his principles made a significant impact, not only on my dating life, but on my self-esteem and what it meant to be masculine (without having to be a jerk).
Now, some would argue that some of his principles could seem a little old-fashion. He was always quoting Cary Grant movies, and he tended to lean towards treating women nicer than some of his counter-parts, who would talk about things like neg-hitting and PUA principles. But, as a reforming nice guy, it was good to see that I could still dole out kindness and respectability to women and still attract them, albeit holding back a bit on being too nice too soon and being able to stand up for myself in a respectful way.
Thanks to him, I've been able to have the kind of dating life I never thought possible back in my teens and early 20s. Even to this day, I would still do the occasional listen to his program, do a yearly read-through of his book "The System," and look up old videos of his advice. I even called in to his show once (back in 2008) to ask a question, and being able to speak to him was quite a delight for me.
Anyway... just felt the need to type all that out. He impacted my life and the lives of so many other men in a positive way, and I hope he rests well knowing how helpful his advice and services truly were.
