In general, you SHOULD get more success from day game

[Old Spice]

I am a firm believer that day game is the ultimate way to meet quality women.

Day game in many peoples opinion is them ost difficult type of game, and rightfully so.

Remember this- the most worthwhile things you can achieve will always be the most difficult to obtain.

Is this not true in all walks of life? Anything worth having SHOULD be more difficult, and i assure you, the best looking, most quality women are out there during the day, NOT in the bars and clubs at night.

I am talking about the women who have it together. Who you can have a conversation with and actually learn something and relate to each other. These women are everywhere during the day, and are not very hard to find.

What is hard is making yourself approach them.

I have a challenge for you all. I want each of you, regardless of your experience with day game, to make 7 cold approaches this week. That can be 1 a day. I want you come back to this thread or PM me the results of each of those encounters. If it went well, i want to know why, and if it happens to go poorly, id also like to know why you think it happened.

Take me up on my challenge, you will not be dissapointed.

 

[neghitzbrah]

After my date lastnight, I reluctantly accept this challenge. Who the fvck says drinking is a hobby????

 

[Old Spice]

Anyone who considers drinking a hobby is not worth your time. No matter what she looks like.

 

[comic_relief]

After my date lastnight, I reluctantly accept this challenge. Who the fvck says drinking is a hobby????

college kids

I would accept your challenge, but i already do it on a pretty consistent basis so it might be overkill.

good advice

- comic_relief

 

[Old Spice]

college kids

I would accept your challenge, but i already do it on a pretty consistent basis so it might be overkill.

good advice

- comic_relief

You always have demonstrated very quality posts and threads in the past, feel free to share some of your day game experiences here, anything to help motivate others!

 

[1 Bad Dude]

Yes. Think about it for a minute. You're not gonna get a girlfriend, let alone a serious LTR out of a bar/club. At least not consistently. When a girl is talking to her friends about you, do you think she wants to tell them she met you at a bar, took you home, and you fvcked so good that she made you her boyfriend. So if you're looking for something that'll last, then day game is where it's at. ONS and FB can be found at the club regularly, not relationships. In my opinion/experience anyway.

 

[comic_relief]

You always have demonstrated very quality posts and threads in the past, feel free to share some of your day game experiences here, anything to help motivate others!

Your wish is my command:

Most recent LR
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=183032

Most recent Ex-GF (1.5 year long relationship)
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=163307

summer lovin and Em (1 Month hookup)
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=160729

Generally, I go meeting girls through friends, but I have had cold approaches. The most recent girl was a girl that I met through day game. Haven't seen her in years so it was an entirely new person

- comic_relief

 

[Old Spice]

OP, I agree with you 100%, but there are way more single chicks at bars than out in the streets. And there are not many single chicks at bars these days either.

You have a valid point.

But thats just another obstacle to overcome. Maybe the majority of women out during the day DO have boyfriends. This does not disqualify them from your approach.

We all know a great number of women who "have boyfriends" will leave them when something better comes along. This can say a lot about the woman, but also something that needs to be addressed is a lot of women "with boyfriends" are NOT in serious relationships. A lot of women just have a guy they are seeing and they put the boyfriend label on him to elevate their own status or make themselves more desireable by appearing unavailable.

Do not be fooled, many women are available for you, whether they have a "boyfriend" or not. You just have to make yourself the best you that you can be so you become more desireable than the "boyfriends" they lead around to buy them things and increase their social proof and have consistent sex.

If theres a ring on the finger, i would not bother with it. Otherwise, feel free to approach any and all women regardless of their relationship status unless married or in an obvious long-term serious relationship. Youll be able to differentiate who is in a serious relationship they have no intention of leaving for anyone and who just "has a boyfriend" to keep around until the next best thing shows up.


Another thing worth mentioning, and this is not an EXACT science or a perfect system, is that how a woman dresses when she is alone in public can sometimes be an indicator of her relationship status.

Women who you see alone in public that are more dressed up or have taken more time on their appearance (hair, makeup, nails, clothing) are more likley to be SINGLE as the careful maintenence of their appearance suggests they are looking to impress the opposite sex.

Women who are dressed down, dumpy looking, ponytails, sweats and hoodies, tend to be in relationships more often and as such they take less time on their appearance because they arent as concerned with attracting a male. We have all done this when we are in a relationship, our style often suffers a bit. You might never think of wearing sweatpants and a tshirt to the mall when you are single, but if you are there with your girlfriend of 6 months i bet you would feel more comfortable dressed that way.

Again, neithier one of these is an exact science or a surefire indicator of relationship status, this is just something to keep in mind and i believe it holds true more often than not, so it can at least increase your chances of knowing if someone you have not yet met is single or not. Remember, there is no real way to know if someone you havent met is single or not, so it is all a guessing game in the first place. Having things to look for like that increase your percentages of getting it right.

 

[RSanders219]

This thread is the motivation I need.. Been struggling with the cold approach the past 2 days since I began trying it out. I'm sick of meeting boring, low-life women at the bars. I will definitely report back in a week. Great motivational thread Old Spice.

 

[Old Spice]

This thread is the motivation I need.. Been struggling with the cold approach the past 2 days since I began trying it out. I'm sick of meeting boring, low-life women at the bars. I will definitely report back in a week. Great motivational thread Old Spice.

Great! Thats why i am here, to motivate others! I do not have all the answers but i will try my best to obtain them!

Also, i believe bars and clubs still have their purpose, they are great practice! But i believe 80 percent of your time approaching women should be done during the day, the other 20 percent can just become practice or a confidence booster because believe me, when you master day game, night game becomes a breeze.

 

[big weezy]

You have a valid point.

But thats just another obstacle to overcome. Maybe the majority of women out during the day DO have boyfriends. This does not disqualify them from your approach.

We all know a great number of women who "have boyfriends" will leave them when something better comes along. This can say a lot about the woman, but also something that needs to be addressed is a lot of women "with boyfriends" are NOT in serious relationships. A lot of women just have a guy they are seeing and they put the boyfriend label on him to elevate their own status or make themselves more desireable by appearing unavailable.

Do not be fooled, many women are available for you, whether they have a "boyfriend" or not. You just have to make yourself the best you that you can be so you become more desireable than the "boyfriends" they lead around to buy them things and increase their social proof and have consistent sex.

If theres a ring on the finger, i would not bother with it. Otherwise, feel free to approach any and all women regardless of their relationship status unless married or in an obvious long-term serious relationship. Youll be able to differentiate who is in a serious relationship they have no intention of leaving for anyone and who just "has a boyfriend" to keep around until the next best thing shows up.


Another thing worth mentioning, and this is not an EXACT science or a perfect system, is that how a woman dresses when she is alone in public can sometimes be an indicator of her relationship status.

Women who you see alone in public that are more dressed up or have taken more time on their appearance (hair, makeup, nails, clothing) are more likley to be SINGLE as the careful maintenence of their appearance suggests they are looking to impress the opposite sex.

Women who are dressed down, dumpy looking, ponytails, sweats and hoodies, tend to be in relationships more often and as such they take less time on their appearance because they arent as concerned with attracting a male. We have all done this when we are in a relationship, our style often suffers a bit. You might never think of wearing sweatpants and a tshirt to the mall when you are single, but if you are there with your girlfriend of 6 months i bet you would feel more comfortable dressed that way.

Again, neithier one of these is an exact science or a surefire indicator of relationship status, this is just something to keep in mind and i believe it holds true more often than not, so it can at least increase your chances of knowing if someone you have not yet met is single or not. Remember, there is no real way to know if someone you havent met is single or not, so it is all a guessing game in the first place. Having things to look for like that increase your percentages of getting it right.

you also get a great deal of AW's during the day who are dressed and made up. i agree with you that she may be looking for another mate.. but when i've approached many like these during the day they usually always have a bf.. however they still want other males to notice them.. this could also be linked into leaving him for someone better, which unfortunately due to my level of game i am not succeeding in doing.

i'm in a rich area where all the women are dressed up in high heels the latest designer expensive fashions and are generally looking for a rich guy.

i generally seem to get on better with the rich girls who aren't TOO spoilt as they dont feel the need as much to dress up and show off their status as they come from money.. whereas i am noticing the wanabes and the 1s looking to snare rich guys as they're always dressed up in high heels and dressed provocatively.. (they'll claim it's cos it's 'fashion' which is true i guess but how do you distinguish between who's doing it for the fashion and attention and who's looking for men to notice them)

is it true to say the women who are well dressed, made up, wearing heels are always the 1s looking to attract the opposite sex or maybe are looking to be fashionable to compete with other women on how they dress?

it's hard to distinguish sometimes especially in this area i'm in. the plus side is that just being in the area and chilling in the starbucks there's an automatic assumption that i'm rich too, which i'm not but because i reside in the vicinity it's somewhat social proofing which makes it easier to talk to them sometimes.

 

[Old Spice]

you also get a great deal of AW's during the day who are dressed and made up. i agree with you that she may be looking for another mate.. but when i've approached many like these during the day they usually always have a bf.. however they still want other males to notice them.. this could also be linked into leaving him for someone better, which unfortunately due to my level of game i am not succeeding in doing.

i'm in a rich area where all the women are dressed up in high heels the latest designer expensive fashions and are generally looking for a rich guy.

i generally seem to get on better with the rich girls who aren't TOO spoilt as they dont feel the need as much to dress up and show off their status as they come from money.. whereas i am noticing the wanabes and the 1s looking to snare rich guys as they're always dressed up in high heels and dressed provocatively.. (they'll claim it's cos it's 'fashion' which is true i guess but how do you distinguish between who's doing it for the fashion and attention and who's looking for men to notice them)

is it true to say the women who are well dressed, made up, wearing heels are always the 1s looking to attract the opposite sex or maybe are looking to be fashionable to compete with other women on how they dress?

it's hard to distinguish sometimes especially in this area i'm in. the plus side is that just being in the area and chilling in the starbucks there's an automatic assumption that i'm rich too, which i'm not but because i reside in the vicinity it's somewhat social proofing which makes it easier to talk to them sometimes.

Yes i definitly see what you mean. Theres no surefire way to know why someone is doing what they are doing, but i think in many instances how one treats their appearance can give you some sort of insight to their availibility. Women with boyfriends can STILL be available. They are always looking for an upgrade.

 

[big weezy]

Yes i definitly see what you mean. Theres no surefire way to know why someone is doing what they are doing, but i think in many instances how one treats their appearance can give you some sort of insight to their availibility. Women with boyfriends can STILL be available. They are always looking for an upgrade.

yeah i agree, i feel somewhat handicapped in this area though as i dont have my money sorted, as im not rich (yet) and im not good looking enough to supercede these other things. my game obviously can improve but i dont seem to have the social proof of being connected (parties, clubs etc) nor have the materialistic things the hot women here look for.. tbh i wouldnt wanna go out with these trophy women, they seem a right pain which is why i rather target the rich girls who aren't too spoilt (though they can be high maintenance too).

it's difficult to demonstrate i'm an upgrade when i dont have any of the logical things they're looking for.. all i can do is try to work on my game to induce some attraction in them for me even if i dont check their boxes for what they're looking for.

do you find with day game that sometimes the women are not so open to talking to strangers? i think they're the 1s with bf's.. they're usually quite blunt and dismissive.

 

[Old Spice]

yeah i agree, i feel somewhat handicapped in this area though as i dont have my money sorted, as im not rich (yet) and im not good looking enough to supercede these other things. my game obviously can improve but i dont seem to have the social proof of being connected (parties, clubs etc) nor have the materialistic things the hot women here look for.. tbh i wouldnt wanna go out with these trophy women, they seem a right pain which is why i rather target the rich girls who aren't too spoilt (though they can be high maintenance too).

it's difficult to demonstrate i'm an upgrade when i dont have any of the logical things they're looking for.. all i can do is try to work on my game to induce some attraction in them for me even if i dont check their boxes for what they're looking for.

do you find with day game that sometimes the women are not so open to talking to strangers? i think they're the 1s with bf's.. they're usually quite blunt and dismissive.

You gotta push past that train of thought that since you dont have whats on their list you are not an upgrade. You can STILL be an upgrade by having your own uniqe traits. Just because a woman says she wants a certain man doesnt mean she wants that at all. You have to improve yourself and have confidence in what youre doing regardless of what other people appear to be looking for.

And i find that women are usually VERY receptive to being approached during the day under most circumstances. As long as you come off with a good vibe and approach under appropriate circumstances you will find you get many morep ositive responses than negative.

 

[Betamax]

It might be just me, but I have given up on the night game, and had far more success on the day time. Women's guard is down and easier to pick up and take to a coffee shop. As mentioned, you have to have the right vibe and technique, but in the day you have far less competition too.

It's better in the day, you can see what you are getting without tons of slap on, hear more clearly as there is no booming music and overall its a far better refined experience for both parties..

The big book shops are my new hunting grounds.... especially those with coffee shops - dead easy to steer a woman in for a coffee...


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[Doctrine Dark]

I'm up for this challenge.

I've never cold approached any woman in my life. I've often had self-esteem issues about myself and some of my physical attributes (my 5'7" height, for example) but after doing some soul-searching for the past few days, I came to the conclusion that fearing rejection will only continue to make things tougher than they really need to be. Not gonna lie, I still feel nervous about the idea of cold approaching, but I'm ready to put that to the side and see where it takes me.

 

[rushing dude 123]

Yeah i think any of you guys who goes up for the challenge will learn valuables lessons whilst doing it. It is a pity to see not many people on this site implementing day game.

Reasons why you should do day game

1. The main reason is at anytime in your life you can pick up a chick (park, sidewalk, bus stop, shop, gym...), whilst night game you are only great when you are at a club. Destiny should not be decided depending on where you are. Your future wife could be walking towards to you as get off the subway "have u got the gutts to speak to her though", because if you don't u will never meet her.

2. U would learn a lot more conversation skills in the day, it relys on a lot of adapting and being aware of your enviroment (using them to make conversations), this is a useful skill to have, it has actually landed me jobs and lots of new friends as well.

3. Ur night game will be awesome, yes i said it. If you learn how to do day game, night game is so easy.... Think about it if you can talk to a chick randomly off the street, I am sure hitting on a horny...drunk...chick in a club who is expecting it, will be no problem.

4. U will feel greater and loads of social proof, when you take girls out they will be very impressed with how well you are known. Whilst you are walking with her or going to places, you have people coming up to you to greet you, getting into places for free and having that cute shop assistant u regularly talk to smiling at you. These people will also help you meet other people...or better yet girls..

5. High quality girls, girls that would never go to a club you would never even meet. I have met a lot of great fun girls in the day and had a blast with them. Also sometimes in clubs u r "more likely" to get a kind of slutty type who gets ONS everynight, unless u kind of dig that thing

6.It can sometimes even be easier because night game u can get quite high on flaking, but day game is more personal and you are probably the only guy that got her number that day. Rather than in night game u being mr lucky number 39.

7. Day game can be more of a romantic setting to meet a girl. No girl wants to tell there friends...or there kids... they met some guy/ your daddy in a club, they want to say something like "O we kind of met whilst i was looking at some fountain and he just approached me geneuinely nicely and we just got a coffee"

8. In day game your opportunity is limitless, whilst night game it is limited. It's also more productive, you don't have to waste time going to a club, you can do work in library, go swimming, go to work and still meet women as u r doing ur daily activitys.

9. It beats social circles too in the aspect of, if it goes wrong you will never probably see the chick again so it dosn't matter, which is similar to night game.

10. It is really really fun, go to some clothes store and ask the worker girl which dress you would look better in lol. Smooth talk the receptionist and then leave the place with her number as all the gawping AFC's just stare. End up chatting up some girls in the airport and end up convincing them to give you massages in their room and having a bit of fun ...after u get off the plane( true story).

 

[rushing dude 123]

OP, I agree with you 100%, but there are way more single chicks at bars than out in the streets. And there are not many single chicks at bars these days either.

I disagree, A lot of girls with boyfriends go to bars as well. I have actually found that there's more single girls in day than night game.

More importantly if they have got a bf who cares just disable the line and go for the close "Thats kool I got a boyfriend as well, whats your number" or "That's kool I'll take him out as well, what's your number" You will usually get a laugh and she will put it in about 80-90% of the time.

 

[MainDroite]

Okay.

Two approaches t'day:

1) I see this HB8 on the way to university. I started whistling and she turned around quickly to identify the source. Soon enough we were walking side by side and I just told her "Uhh, just wanted to say hello and that you're pretty cute!". She thanked me, and I went to my course. Definitely should skip the "uhh" part next time. I had no idea how to continue this.

2) Started talking to a chick in the photocopy room. We were talking about how the machines sucked and bla bla bla. She said she'd go for ice cream since it was so hot in the room... which I took as an invitation. I hit the "I got a boyfriend" wall, to which I replied "That's okay. I'm not jealous." (thanks to Jon, who holds a field report journal here, for that line... I don't know whether he took it from someone else though). I got her name and email in the end.

I found out lately how easy it is to speak to strangers. Just put on a smile and say something appropriate. Also, talk to everyone. Kids, dudes, old people, strangers (as in obviously not from your country). Soon you'll realize that chicks are just as normal as everyone else and that talking to them shouldn't be seen as going "one step further" in being a more sociable person. If you want to talk with chicks, talk with everyone. The chicks will follow. Thoughts?

 

[rushing dude 123]

Okay.

Two approaches t'day:

1) I see this HB8 on the way to university. I started whistling and she turned around quickly to identify the source. Soon enough we were walking side by side and I just told her "Uhh, just wanted to say hello and that you're pretty cute!". She thanked me, and I went to my course. Definitely should skip the "uhh" part next time. I had no idea how to continue this.

2) Started talking to a chick in the photocopy room. We were talking about how the machines sucked and bla bla bla. She said she'd go for ice cream since it was so hot in the room... which I took as an invitation. I hit the "I got a boyfriend" wall, to which I replied "That's okay. I'm not jealous." (thanks to Jon, who holds a field report journal here, for that line... I don't know whether he took it from someone else though). I got her name and email in the end.

I found out lately how easy it is to speak to strangers. Just put on a smile and say something appropriate. Also, talk to everyone. Kids, dudes, old people, strangers (as in obviously not from your country). Soon you'll realize that chicks are just as normal as everyone else and that talking to them shouldn't be seen as going "one step further" in being a more sociable person. If you want to talk with chicks, talk with everyone. The chicks will follow. Thoughts?

Well done Maindroite, good job on doing some field reports and posting them up.

I think for the first one you should of maybe tried a more genuine approach if you were going direct. The builder (whistling) approach usually dosn't work as well as all the "yooo whats happening baby". I think if you went up to her with something like "Hey look I am just going to be honest I don't usually do this, but I thought you kind of looked interesting I can just feel a good aura about you, so I just wanted to talk to you and found out a bit more" u can then ask her name or better yet just straight out comment on something about her like "wow i really like those boots they look pretty slick where did u get them from?"...she will tell you, then just vibe it and C+F from there "uh huh uh huh I am totally in with you now seeing i talked about your shoes" lol.

The second one seemed like you put a bit more thought into it and u got to the next stage, but got the bf line. U seemed to of brushed it aside and got the email so good work, but I would try to push for a phone number seeing it's a lot easier to get the date that way. Send her an email though and see where it gets you.

I look forward to see how u get on throughout the weeks