"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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In a bit of a pickle need a hand ( long post)

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so recently been seeing a lot of this certain hb pretty much every second day she calls me/txts me just as much if not more than me her. This has been going on now for roughly 3 - 4 weeks. So at the beginning we were just friends not more. then with all the contact I think we both felt some kind of connection.

As time progressed kino started upping much more, she always plays with my hair grabs me touches my face/arms and so on. I respond to the kino in kind of course. the other night we were out with a few of our friends (her best friend and my best friend who all know each other) when out of the blue she asks when were going to watch the rest of the dvd over at my house. i say well why not now and she eagerly agrees. we drop off the other friends and she comes back to mine. she was a bit cold at first but then gradually i initiate kino and give her a massage halfway through we swap. kino starts running rampant.

its getting late so she txts her parents and says shes staying at a girl friends house that night. so she can stay at mine ( its easier apparently?) so we put on another movie and she hops into bed with me we spoon for a while but by this time its around 5 in the morning and im absolutly wrecked. so we both got to sleep with me holding her.

next day she invites me over to her house and so on and we hang out ofr the day all day. i then dont see her for a day or so then see her that sunday ( the stay over was thursday night) she comes over we watch a dvd again but get interupted ( a friend of mine is having a crisis so I have to go pick her up) the following day she calls me and asks me to come over to hers. i go over and everythings fine. we sit down to watch some tv after being out all day and she makes up a bed on the floor and tells me to come and sit down next to her. time rolls on and she has to go to work and i have other things to do she says we can do something tonight so we leave it at that and she comes over at night

this time she seems vvvvverrrry playful and receptive to kino straight off the bat and is playfully fighting me and everything from the get go. i figure im on for sure we whack on a movie its in my room and theres only the bed to lie on so we lay on the same bed and i spoon with her from behind again

I say you dont mind do you in a c/f way. she says no and then says all guys even if there just my friends like to do this with me........ i just acted like it didnt phase me at the time n let it slide but it ruined my frame hearing that.

im wondering what you guys think that last part is all about and whats going on here and where i should go to next. sorry about the length of the post and appreciate greatly any help you can give

ps sorry about the spelling/grammar
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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This woman is begging to have sex with you. What more do you want? An engraved invitation? Smoke signals? One of those banners behind an airplane?

You have lucked out that she is not bored of you yet. Make a move on her or lose her to someone who will.
 
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lol i thought so but shes a virgin and did bring up the ex a few times to many in the past plus she brings up guys who she thinks is hot around me as well as talking about what she finds attractive in a guy (nice guys which isnt me)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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to make this clear u haven't moved in for a kiss yet?
 

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no i havent should have included this before sorry
 

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dude, u got tons of kino n the chick is right next to u in a bed.... have her laying on her back and u laying on ur side on ur elbow. Then just go for it, slowly but not too slow, if she freeks out then that means she was seriously putting u in the friends zone. If she doesn't i'm pretty sure u'll know what to do then.
 

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thanks for the tip man i was just wondering if you thought that last line was a **** test or not?
 

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lol, also do it at the right moment usually look where her hands are, if shes holding a pillow over her chest shes most likely not going to give u sex just yet. but man u gotta make this kinda move on the first day of her being next to u in bed. Make ur intentions clear right away don't go into that friend-Zone-BS
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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^what they said. yeah it was probably a test. If i was you, next time you're spooning her kiss her on the neck, just below the ear then start kissing her neck properly, then pull her round so she's facing you and kiss her properly. If you get a boner be proud of it, you're a man you're supposed to. put it close to her, let her know and go from there.

If she isnt receptive when you kiss her, ganji the ***** and move on - she aint worth it.
 

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you were in the same bed, and didnt even kiss her?
jesus.. what has the world come to...

are we all a bunch of kids here or what?

do you need her to say "LETS **** RIGHT NOW"... cuz it doesnt get more clearer then it already has...
 
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