"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Importance of phoning before asking for a date

Darrenez

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Hi all,

I just wanted to ask for a bit of advice, before asking a woman to meet up with you for a drink or a date comma how important is it to speak to her on the phone beforehand.

The reason I ask is because obviously using dating websites, sometimes women that you chat to,have never met you before and may prefer to speak on the phone first.. I don't know how important it is to speak to them over the phone before asking to meet up in public. Most of my dates I haven't spoken to them on the phone and it's been fine, but I was curious about what you guys think is better.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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EyeBRollin

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The reason I ask is because obviously using dating websites, sometimes women that you chat to,have never met you before and may prefer to speak on the phone first.. I don't know how important it is to speak to them over the phone before asking to meet up in public. Most of my dates I haven't spoken to them on the phone and it's been fine, but I was curious about what you guys think is better.
Go for the date immediately online, within the first few messages. Any correspondence outside of that should be exclusively on her to bring up. If she wants to talk a bit on the phone first go along with it until you meet her in person. The point is... meet her in person as soon as possible. Go along with her frame if it gets you the meetup. That first date is where the magic happens.
 
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