I'm thinking not worth the trouble... BRO ADVICE!

[j.619]

Met this HB8 10 days ago. Been on two dates and already needing advice... not a good start, eh? :trouble:

Met her at Starbucks on a Sunday late afternoon/early evening. Decided to chat her up after she made long eye contact with me + big grin. This girl is SO easy on the eyes. I've been practicing day game recently, so I wasn't worried about getting nervous, and am generally confident in my game anyway. Found out a few interesting details about her life: She's from outta town (only been in San Diego since Christmas for school), 25yo, doesn't have many (or any) local friends, has a 10-month-old daughter, and this adorable Canadian-sounding accent. Only chopped her up about 5 minutes before getting her number and leaving.

Called her on Thursday night around 8PM to set up a date on Sunday night. We hit one of my favorite pool halls for pool and beers. We start talking about her life... and she seems pretty low quality for me. Not only is she a single mom, but drives a sh1tty car, lives with mom, and is on welfare (apparently just until she's done with school). Granted, she didn't ask for a dime from me for ANYTHING the whole night. She even asked my permission before ordering her beer since it was on my tab, which i thought was a combination of funny and pathetic lol. We hit it off pretty well and ended up making out for a while throughout the night. Her personality is very fun and she's a really nice person.

My problems are as follows, though:

1- Like I said, she wasn't very demanding, but because she doesn't make much money and her car is a piece of sh1t, we need to meet close to her place to hang out so I can drive (~30 min drive for me, not including where ever we go PLUS dropping her off AND going home myself)

2- Single mom thing. I mentioned this in an earlier thread that they're not typically for me

3- Saw her profile on POF this week, b1tches on there are typically attention-loving wh0res

4- She seems to want to hang out an awful lot. We had date 2 only two nights later... because she called and said she left her license in my car. Met her up, yada yada... ended up grinding at the bar for a couple hours, got it in at my place, brief (5 mintues) cuddling/talking, told her i had to sleep... still messaging me today about this coming weekend. Not TOO bad, but still red flag.

Would you fellas put up with those low-quality attributes to date a supremely attractive breezy? I'm open to where this relationship heads. Was gonna spin her til i find out if I like her enough to keep her around. Couldn't help but notice the red flags though.

Also gotta note... the po0n was pretty good too. Girl haz talent. TRUE HB8. I feel some of you people too liberally give out 7+'s

 

[GotED?]

At my age, I can really care less how HOT or HB1,303,431 she is. If she's SINGLE MOTHER + POOR + NO EDUCATION, this woman ain't entering my castle.

Don't get your ego all stroked up because she paid so much attention to you - this is your weak self-esteem and game not realizing you are being BAITED and HOOKED by her because she KNOWS she is UNDESIRABLE by most men unless she GIVES UP HER POON.

You are owning the RED FLAGS of:

1) becoming someone else's child's father (regardless of how much you think you deny it right now)
2) becoming financially sucked by another (never enjoy a woman who can responsibly pay for herself in life, even in a date)
3) becoming always lower priority in her life (you are second or third on her totem pole of importance with her child always #1)
4) you have to deal with the father of the child (good luck on that one)
5) you will never be satisified with the time you can spend with her because it will be scarce due to the child.
6) getting involved with a woman with online dating profile (I personally would NEVER date a woman who has an online profile or do online dating myself - as you said, ATTENTION HOs. I could never trust one who does online dating either).


I am not placing JUDGEMENT on single mothers, being in poverty/low socio-economic placement, or uneducated. I have the right to choose and I would not choose such qualities for my dating life.

Good luck.

Exodus

 

[MOTU]

What Exodus said, but they do make decent booty calls and fb's if you can keep it at that.

So who has the kid while she is out with you 2/3 nights a week?? Mom? Well if you two get together in an LTR, will it be you keeping the kid while she goes out?

 

[In2theGame]

The financial and education part, I can look past to a certain degree BUT when you start talking about single mom and her on POF (Who knows who shes messaging on there but its 100% certain that her inbox is somewhat flooded).. That is enough for me to hit the eject button as the plane is already going down in flames.

 

[TheSlasher]

Wow. My suggestion from these guys were different. I thought she was really into you. But yeah, after reading theirs and add to the fact that she has a child, she probably needs someone to take of her baby and herself and that is why she is acting nice and charming. I would pretty much understand that, but I think this is the problem: dealing with the baby's biological dad, and she jumping ship as soon as a better provider shows some interest on her whether in person or in POF. My suggestion is to eject. But when you don't really have super attractive plates in great quantity, ejecting from nice-looking women isn't that easy.

 

[GotED?]

But when you don't really have super attractive plates in great quantity, ejecting from nice-looking women isn't that easy.

+1 Repped.

She is dating DOWN - most HOT single mothers do anyways because the men they used to date would never be interested in a LTR now with her, and would use her as hump&dump.

Securing a good provider and a good 'nice guy' for her child is what most single mother are fixated towards.

Good point made, theSlasher.

Exodus

 

[j.619]

Don't get your ego all stroked up because she paid so much attention to you - this is your weak self-esteem and game not realizing you are being BAITED and HOOKED by her because she KNOWS she is UNDESIRABLE by most men unless she GIVES UP HER POON.

I'm sure you're absolutely right here. Not letting it stroke ego, tho. My ego is big enough as it is.

So who has the kid while she is out with you 2/3 nights a week?? Mom? Well if you two get together in an LTR, will it be you keeping the kid while she goes out?

Not defending anyone, but I'm completely missing the logic here. Why would i ever assume that role?

EDIT [Didn't see the new responses haha]:

Wow. My suggestion from these guys were different. I thought she was really into you. But yeah, after reading theirs and add to the fact that she has a child, she probably needs someone to take of her baby and herself and that is why she is acting nice and charming. I would pretty much understand that, but I think this is the problem: dealing with the baby's biological dad, and she jumping ship as soon as a better provider shows some interest on her whether in person or in POF. My suggestion is to eject. But when you don't really have super attractive plates in great quantity, ejecting from nice-looking women isn't that easy.

+1 Repped.

She is dating DOWN - most HOT single mothers do anyways because the men they used to date would never be interested in a LTR now with her, and would use her as hump&dump.

Securing a good provider and a good 'nice guy' for her child is what most single mother are fixated towards.

Good point made, theSlasher.

Exodus

This is kinda where I was headed. Not sure about the status of baby-dad, but he's across the country. I just like seeing her naked and want to continue to do so lol. Dating down sounds like a low-key knock on me. Probably brought on by me because of my getting in this situation to begin with. I haven't really taken role of 'provider', per se. Outside of picking her up and letting her shake some ass on me... and $20 worth of beer, there isn't much I've provided; outside of some good d1ck. My ability to pick up hot women isn't uncanny, but I don't settle as far as looks goes. Unless drunk. EVER

 

[JoeMarron]

I don't see why you need advice. If the pvssy is good then go ahead and keep her around. Just don't be dumb enough to catch feelings and get in a relationship with her. If she starts giving you drama cut her off.

I just reread your post and found this

I'm open to where this relationship heads.

Fvck no! She's a fvck buddy only. Don't forget that.

 

[Sofomore]

Yea just smash and leave it at that. If you catch feelings, you are a fool. Sounds like you already like her and are trying to justify it. You know our answer here is going to be "don't get into a LTR with her".

Maybe, just maybe, someone like Jaylan will come along and say "give her a chance, she's a single mom! she deserves it!". Listen to your gut, it's saying don't get involved. You are being blinded by her being a HB "10".

 

[gravityeyelids]

Didn't read everyone else's responses so someone probably said this already..

but dont keep spending time with her unless you are pushing for sex or having sex. If you keep "dating" her and not fvcking her, you enter the "provider" category even if you're not technically buying her anything. Girls are clever....she probably knows that by asking for you to buy her sh!t right off the bat that you might get scared off. She'll probably hook you and then start subtly asking for stuff.

If shes hot...bang her. And make it clear to her that you're not going to be her baby daddy or get involved in anything serious

 

[In2theGame]

I'm going to go against everyone else on the point of just banging her and getting good sex because as i see your posts OP, it seems your trying in a way to justify giving this a shot with her and by that alone tells me, If you keep having hot sex with her, your going to catch feelings, ESPECIALLY if she's a HB8+. She will probably go all out maybe and cook for you, do things for you and make you feel special but dont let that trick you because like other posters mentioned, the negatives outweigh the positives. She has a child from another man and you will in some fashion have to deal with the father and you just dont want that drama & baggage. Me, personally i couldnt shell out money to support a child that is not mine although i would probably grow to care about them but deep down to my core, its not as special to me as i am not the biological father but the mother knows its hers and feels safe and secure as long as your taking care of them. Plus we arent even talking about how much a headache a woman can be in itself and if she will even stick around long term. Imagine the feel of you providing for her and the child and then for her to go back to her childs father, thats gotta sting. Just get out of there while you can and throw the towel in the ring.

BTW, I myself about a year and a half ago was banging this single young mom (25) who has an AMAZING azz and body, her face was very cute too and i was hitting it without a condom LOL (I live on the razors edge) but i know how great sex can suck a man in. She was trying to get me but lucky i escaped that amazing intoxicating azz. Gotta be cautious when these HB throw it on you good.

 

[j.619]

Yea just smash and leave it at that. If you catch feelings, you are a fool. Sounds like you already like her and are trying to justify it. You know our answer here is going to be "don't get into a LTR with her".

I absolutely knew what the majority of the DJs would say, and I think you're all correct...

I'm going to go against everyone else on the point of just banging her and getting good sex because as i see your posts OP, it seems your trying in a way to justify giving this a shot with her and by that alone tells me, If you keep having hot sex with her, your going to catch feelings, ESPECIALLY if she's a HB8+. She will probably go all out maybe and cook for you, do things for you and make you feel special but dont let that trick you because like other posters mentioned, the negatives outweigh the positives. She has a child from another man and you will in some fashion have to deal with the father and you just dont want that drama & baggage. Me, personally i couldnt shell out money to support a child that is not mine although i would probably grow to care about them but deep down to my core, its not as special to me as i am not the biological father but the mother knows its hers and feels safe and secure as long as your taking care of them. Plus we arent even talking about how much a headache a woman can be in itself and if she will even stick around long term. Imagine the feel of you providing for her and the child and then for her to go back to her childs father, thats gotta sting. Just get out of there while you can and throw the towel in the ring.

BTW, I myself about a year and a half ago was banging this single young mom (25) who has an AMAZING azz and body, her face was very cute too and i was hitting it without a condom LOL (I live on the razors edge) but i know how great sex can suck a man in. She was trying to get me but lucky i escaped that amazing intoxicating azz. Gotta be cautious when these HB throw it on you good.

...but it's replies like this that I was looking for. The few that HAVE or WILL tolerate, and WHY. Thanks for the honesty, In2TheGame, the a$$ is good, brotha. Won't be NOT using a condom, though. Used to and got smart. Too many nasty h0es nowadays lol.

She texted me a couple times today. I don't intend on hitting her up until i see her again (to smash guts), probably this weekend. I was making excuses for myself earlier, but saner minds prevail. I'm no caged bird :rockon:

 

[Sofomore]

Good work. The real test is how strong you can stay if she is one of the best lays of your life. If she blows your mind in bed and treats you like a king you will begin to justify her flaws. Down the line these flaws will become magnified and you will wonder why you got involved in the first place. Do not let this piece of a$$ blind you. There are plenty of hot single girls with way less baggage that will fvck your brains out, it's up to you to be patient enough to find them.