"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I'm surrounded by woman but I cannot score for the life of me?

Tomo

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I study a female centric medical course, work in a clothing store full of woman while at the same time dance. Note - I did not do all the above just to pull woman but for my own passions and personal pursuits.

I am all I am that is what I've been learning through this forum and the Bible. I've killed my desperateness, worked hard on improving myself etc etc. Yet I simply cannot for the life of me score anywhere regardless that I am basically bathing in woman. Obviously these woman flirt with me, tease, kino, a few have I have developed close bonds with etc but overall it's all just the same.

Rant over. Can someone advise me what I'm doing wrong? Obviously the common factor is me. I've just had to next a girl I was most interested in. Thank f**k I have options otherwise I would be in an AFC coma for a few days after such rejection.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hmm.

Try isolating them and getting them to do things you enjoy. If they want to go along on one of your mad adventures chances are they want more than just to flirt.

My initial advice is too just ask them all out shamelessly, but this is not only desperate and will destroy your circle it sure wont work! You need to be able to let the girls catch you so you can escalate e.g. office parties, weekend trip, lunch break etc.

Do you ever invite these women to things? Your post is a bit unclear on how you 'nexted'.
 

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Yeah some I do - the ones I have an interest in. I've got to the point where I've got standards as opposed to anything with t*ts and a*s haha. This said girl I nexted because I asked her out in person (agreed) but then she flaked via text and did not counter offer yet wanted to continue the conversation as if to keep me around. I don't know, after a past of AFC and things, I've developed almost a sense I think of whether a girl is interested in me or not and whether one should put any effort into one or not.

Thanks man, yeah all these parts of my life involve extracurricular activities too. After work party functions have been the highlight of my year so far as our workplace is fairly relaxed and everyone is on good terms so it's almost like an actual party with friends. I unfortunately have a knack of floating around groups when I drink rather than focusing on one girl. Yet I am increasingly thinking I do not want to put this job at jeopardy trying to pull any of the girls there simply because it has more benefits to me than not.

Dance (I honestly suggest any guys reading this to give it a shot purely if they are self interested and not to pull woman) is where a few of my options are now seeing as I somehow am not that bad.

I have only recently started this new course at university and after courses before, have made a knack to get in with the 'good crowd' while on top of really focussing on my studies too.

I guess I thought spending a while focussing on getting my life on track while putting woman on the back burners would have helped me out a bit better in this aspect of life but I don't know. It's ironic that when you have everything going for you now, it polarises the things that are not.
 

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You need to do the exact things they are doing to you back to them.

Flirt
Tease
Display confidence
Kino
Withdrawal attention
Do it all over again after escalating another notch

Escalate your interest (I said show interest, NOT chase) over time until you find out who is attention wh-oring and who really wants to catch your attention.

Exodus
 

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Thanks Ex

I think I've got the confidence and kino down packed. I think I tease too much and flirt not enough and try to escalate before I've built enough of a rapport to build?

Yet how do you guys do it in the moment? I seem to zone out of focus. As such I revert to teasing and suchs as opposed to recognising when a girl gives me the opening to ask her out etc or being suggestive.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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