I'm surprised nobody ever brings up this guy........

[Solomon]

It's amazing everyone from Mystery to Sinn has giving him props basically calling him the best, but nobody on here ever talks about him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPXx5q1HdDo

^^at the club direct game break down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gPzUQfXIY
^^day game (once again direct game)

anyway this guy is pretty good, get past the accent, and his stuff is on point.

Peace

 

[Snow Plowman]

This guy is highly underrated...

I've never looked too deep into his stuff but it was when I first heard him talking about the only way you can hang with him is if you bring 10 girls...Because he would go to clubs with 5 guys and 50 girls, that really inspired me to go about building a social circle where I'm just surrounded by COOL chicks.

Supposedly it's said that his ATTRACTION stuff is really good, even though I don't really focus on that area anymore, I did read about his frame controlling stuff once...SOMEWHERE and it was real interesting how he goes about doing things.

 

[WC2]

Not a big fan of the whole bringing 10 chicks to a club with you thing..

Sure it's good to have some girl friends, but building a social circle of 10 girls primarily just to go out with is ridiculous and pathetic. You can build social proof on your own out at clubs just by being different with a few women. Before you know it, you've got a crowd of girls and their friends around you. You however, did not have to plan this whole entourage of women, it just happened.

Also, I switched off the daygame video as soon as he started asking for her facebook.. whether he was joking or not, I'm not sure. Hopefully he wasn't serious.

Overall it looks like he's got some sh!t together, but he's not really my style. Everyone a critic.

 

[Solomon]

Not a big fan of the whole bringing 10 chicks to a club with you thing..

Sure it's good to have some girl friends, but building a social circle of 10 girls primarily just to go out with is ridiculous and pathetic. You can build social proof on your own out at clubs just by being different with a few women. Before you know it, you've got a crowd of girls and their friends around you. You however, did not have to plan this whole entourage of women, it just happened.

Also, I switched off the daygame video as soon as he started asking for her facebook.. whether he was joking or not, I'm not sure. Hopefully he wasn't serious.

Overall it looks like he's got some sh!t together, but he's not really my style. Everyone a critic.

eeeh, belive you me building social proof in clubs can be hard work, why not bring it with you? I don't think its pathetic at all, I rather have 10 chicks I can call at any giving time for pivots, then to go out dolo. The way a club reacts to you when you are with multiple women is compleltly different then when yo come by yourself, however it's all a scenario deal....

 

[Metaphysical]

why bring sand to the damn beach?

why bother to take bring 10 girls with you to the club??

if you have any game you can bang the 10 girls. if you are a real player, and by that you are the type of man that gets these women addicted, they will do anything for you.

these women will bring you their female friends into your life and you can bang those female friends too.

get those women addicted and they will keep bringing you more and more and more women. like a multiplier effect. from those 10 girls you will end up with enough women to last you for years.

you won't even need to go in a club any more... god knows i have not been in a club in ages

for god sakes if you are gonna bring all these people to the club you might as well become a promoter and get paid for it..

getting laid ain't such a big damn deal.

i don't know what you folks do with your lives to have the time to recruit 10 women to bring them with you to the clubs so you can show off your "SOCIAL PROOF".

 

[Solomon]

why bring sand to the damn beach?

why bother to take bring 10 girls with you to the club??

Women are attracted to something they can't have come on "player" you should know this, it's elementry watson!!

if you have any game you can bang the 10 girls. if you are a real player, and by that you are the type of man that gets these women addicted, they will do anything for you.

Obvisouly you don't know who Adam Lyons is, do you're research is whole game is on social proof, and he gets laid a ton. I remember him saying once he got bored of game cause he had 40 chicks blowing up his phone on a daily basis

these women will bring you their female friends into your life and you can bang those female friends too.

BINGO hence you bring them to the club, they bring their friends you work your "magic" and you are in

get those women addicted and they will keep bringing you more and more and more women. like a multiplier effect. from those 10 girls you will end up with enough women to last you for years.

Why not build a social network that can get you not only laid but also in the hottest clubs in town? the hottest parties? why not build an empire, this is the difference between being small minded thinking (just trying to get laid) and major thinking (thinking with more then just your ****)
you won't even need to go in a club any more... god knows i have not been in a club in ages


for god sakes if you are gonna bring all these people to the club you might as well become a promoter and get paid for it..
awww now your getting it.....
getting laid ain't such a big damn deal.
Now you contradicting yourself, but hence you are starting to get it now bit by bit
i don't know what you folks do with your lives to have the time to recruit 10 women to bring them with you to the clubs so you can show off your "SOCIAL PROOF".
mmh building that empire baby

Once again if all you wanna do is get laid, then so be it do you, however when your game becomes advanced it comes to a point where you can basically not only promote yourself but also if you are smart start a business(using your "social proof" to meet the right people), next thing you know you have your own club and it all started because of "social Proof"

but you guys here just wanna get laid.......

*sigh*

 

[Jitterbug]

If you can bring 10 girls to a club, get a house party organized and get them (with their friends) there instead. Convenient logistics get you laid. Why waste time & money and your hearing at a club if you just want to bang some chicks?

 

[WC2]

eeeh, belive you me building social proof in clubs can be hard work, why not bring it with you? I don't think its pathetic at all, I rather have 10 chicks I can call at any giving time for pivots, then to go out dolo. The way a club reacts to you when you are with multiple women is compleltly different then when yo come by yourself, however it's all a scenario deal....

No one ever said pimpin was easy

Honestly though bro, I go out every weekend and sparking social proof is as easy as chatting up a group of girls. True, sometimes it may take a little longer than usual.

However the whole hassle of assembling girls to go to a club with you in itself smells pretty AFCish to me.

I'm not denying that it works, because believe me I know when I'm chatting up a group of girls at the club, they are all eye f*cking me just for the sheer fact that I have women around me.

However, there's a certain point when TRYING for pvssy just goes to far and you have to step back and say, "What am I doing here?" Am I here to have fun and pick up women or am I soley here to bring something home? Bringing something home while nice, is not my #1 goal of the night. Desperate men choose this as their #1 goal.

Rolling to the club with women is not pathetic if it just happens, however calling up women to be your wingwomen at the club in my opinion is.

 

[Snow Plowman]

This is really just based on preference as it isn't for everyone...But also it's always good to sift through a guys style cause you just might find that ONE mindset or thing that you can add to your personality.

Not a big fan of the whole bringing 10 chicks to a club with you thing..

Sure it's good to have some girl friends, but building a social circle of 10 girls primarily just to go out with is ridiculous and pathetic. You can build social proof on your own out at clubs just by being different with a few women. Before you know it, you've got a crowd of girls and their friends around you. You however, did not have to plan this whole entourage of women, it just happened.

This is surely a preference based thing...I personally like it because it is congruent to how I want my social circle to be. I'm not saying to actually get 10 female friends just for the sake of going to a club. Me personally I bring my female friends out to eat with me, to plays, (Get free tickets from school) to party and ANYTHING else that I'm doing in my life.

I've had some of the greatest moments just hanging with my social circle

why bring sand to the damn beach?

why bother to take bring 10 girls with you to the club??

if you have any game you can bang the 10 girls. if you are a real player, and by that you are the type of man that gets these women addicted, they will do anything for you.

these women will bring you their female friends into your life and you can bang those female friends too.

get those women addicted and they will keep bringing you more and more and more women. like a multiplier effect. from those 10 girls you will end up with enough women to last you for years.

you won't even need to go in a club any more... god knows i have not been in a club in ages

for god sakes if you are gonna bring all these people to the club you might as well become a promoter and get paid for it..

getting laid ain't such a big damn deal.

i don't know what you folks do with your lives to have the time to recruit 10 women to bring them with you to the clubs so you can show off your "SOCIAL PROOF".

Hahahaha

I for one am addicted to the nightlife and I'm not even 21 yet, I bring out chicks and cool guys. I'm not sure if most people realize it but it's almost IMPOSSIBLE assuming your actually livnig a life to actually lay all 10 girls especially if your constantly meeting new chicks. An I know for me personally I just want the 9s and 10s...the cool and cute chicks can be in my social circle and my Non-Community guy friends can get there share as well as my community friends.

Here in NY Top Clubs you gotta bring girls or be willing to pay...As a community guy from LA told me there is a place where you can't get in unless you have atleast 7 cute girls...I personally was able to get into a decent night venue by basically bringing in two chicks who were hot and acting like I belonged there, been getting in free ever since. (I'm 19)

It would be cool to club promote, but I'm not old enough, but I currently end up getting to sit at reserved tables with no problem...Plus it's not really a TACTIC for me as I just like being around women and having fun.

If your atleast competent and living a life this isn't too hard. You meet chicks as you go about your day and just add them to the list of chicks that you call to hangout with YOUR CREW...You can't lay them all and who knows she might have a HOT friend that you end up hooking up with, and your good friend who hasn't got laid in 2 years might actually hook up with one of the chicks.

But again this isn't really the NORM, this is more of a lifestyle aspect, so longs you don't get caught up in this "PU Mode" where the stuff you learn doesn't end up enhancing your overall life, you just have those moments SARGING where you put on your Poooaahh cape and start wrecking havoc.

If you can bring 10 girls to a club, get a house party organized and get them (with their friends) there instead. Convenient logistics get you laid. Why waste time & money and your hearing at a club if you just want to bang some chicks?

This would be cool if I had the actual place to do it...This is like IDEAL for when I have my own place.

An idea of what I'm talking about... (I know nothing about these two guys, just an example)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UW_uHm3zYY

 

[Metaphysical]

Once again if all you wanna do is get laid, then so be it do you, however when your game becomes advanced it comes to a point where you can basically not only promote yourself but also if you are smart start a business(using your "social proof" to meet the right people), next thing you know you have your own club and it all started because of "social Proof"

but you guys here just wanna get laid.......

*sigh*

Man, if I go to a club, it's to bring a woman home and fvck her, not to sit there with a buncha dudes and "SOCIALIZE". I have my own best buddies I crack a beer with once in a while and talk with. I don't need to go to a club to socialize.

You must be very lonely if you go to a club to socialize. Normal folks don't do that, only people with some kind of issue troubling them do that.

I have too damn much stuff in my life to sit around like you and recruit 10 women to hang out with and not fvck them. Like I said you better get paid for bringing all those women to the clubs.

This "Adams Lyons" dude spends his entire life chasing pvssy. The whole reason he builds these massive social circles is so he can get more pvssy. I can't afford to do that. I have other things in my life that I have to do.

He doesn't have to work or do anything because you suckers pay for his lifestyle by paying $300 for his DVD and $3000 for his seminars.

Now who the hell wants to run around trying to make friends with everybody wasting so much time?

And don't tell me it's not about getting laid. You wouldn't come to a website like this.

Your lack of success is because you keep wasting your time building these massive social circles instead of focusing on the issue at hand, which is seducing that woman and bringing her to your house.

Instead of doing that you are sitting around getting your picture taken with a hot girl just so you can show off on the internet. But the sad thing is you never sleep with these women. As soon as the picture is taken they walk off and find a real player who they go home with that night.

Women no longer see you as this dark mysterious man. They see you as a clown that runs around trying to make buddies with everyone. And that's not the guy they go home with, it's just the guy who they drink with.

I know guys in real life who do the same stuff as this Adams Lyons guy. He goes out 7 nights a week and he spends entire nights in the clubs talking to people and socializing. He dropped out of school and works as a waiter and spends every cent he makes on alcohol and other expenses related to clubs. He is 26 years old and has been doing this lifestyle for 4 years and he has not one thing to show for his age.

He still has not developed the skills to be able to seduce women and he has no game at all.

As a result his success with women is total crap. All he gets are kisses on the cheeks and hugs from women. Everybody sees him as "A FRIEND". Sure, his facebook is full of pictures of hot women giving him hugs... but how many of those did he sleep with? None. The few women that did sleep with him were drunk or unconcious on some type of drug.

He begs me all the time to go out with him. I told him I go SOLO.

As Player Supreme says: "I don't need a "boy-friend" to hold my hand in a club. Sorry. I'm not that type of guy."

peace

 

[Solomon]

You Still don't get it, SOCIAL PROOF= ADVANCED GAMING!!

Man, if I go to a club, it's to bring a woman home and fvck her, not to sit there with a buncha dudes and "SOCIALIZE". I have my own best buddies I crack a beer with once in a while and talk with. I don't need to go to a club to socialize.

You must be very lonely if you go to a club to socialize. Normal folks don't do that, only people with some kind of issue troubling them do that.

I have too damn much stuff in my life to sit around like you and recruit 10 women to hang out with and not fvck them. Like I said you better get paid for bringing all those women to the clubs.

This "Adams Lyons" dude spends his entire life chasing pvssy. The whole reason he builds these massive social circles is so he can get more pvssy. I can't afford to do that. I have other things in my life that I have to do.

He doesn't have to work or do anything because you suckers pay for his lifestyle by paying $300 for his DVD and $3000 for his seminars.

Now who the hell wants to run around trying to make friends with everybody wasting so much time?

And don't tell me it's not about getting laid. You wouldn't come to a website like this.

Your lack of success is because you keep wasting your time building these massive social circles instead of focusing on the issue at hand, which is seducing that woman and bringing her to your house.

Instead of doing that you are sitting around getting your picture taken with a hot girl just so you can show off on the internet. But the sad thing is you never sleep with these women. As soon as the picture is taken they walk off and find a real player who they go home with that night.

Women no longer see you as this dark mysterious man. They see you as a clown that runs around trying to make buddies with everyone. And that's not the guy they go home with, it's just the guy who they drink with.

I know guys in real life who do the same stuff as this Adams Lyons guy. He goes out 7 nights a week and he spends entire nights in the clubs talking to people and socializing. He dropped out of school and works as a waiter and spends every cent he makes on alcohol and other expenses related to clubs. He is 26 years old and has been doing this lifestyle for 4 years and he has not one thing to show for his age.

He still has not developed the skills to be able to seduce women and he has no game at all.

As a result his success with women is total crap. All he gets are kisses on the cheeks and hugs from women. Everybody sees him as "A FRIEND". Sure, his facebook is full of pictures of hot women giving him hugs... but how many of those did he sleep with? None. The few women that did sleep with him were drunk or unconcious on some type of drug.

He begs me all the time to go out with him. I told him I go SOLO.

As Player Supreme says: "I don't need a "boy-friend" to hold my hand in a club. Sorry. I'm not that type of guy."

peace

You still don't get it!!, the whole "social" aspect is just part of you being congruent with yourself, From your Post "player" I'm gathering that you think that being "Social" and "sexuality" doesn't mix, you are the guy that thinks being social is "being the nice guy" and if that's what you think then you are wrong, very wrong(I love guys like you because while you think I'm a "clown" and just the fun guy your girlfriend is passing me her number on a napkin because I've been gaming her "sub-communicatively" the whole time )

Lol @ you must be very lonely going to the club to socialize, that's the difference between you and me. I go to have fun/dance/drink/and game depending on my mood. you go just to find a chick to fcck. If that's what I went for, it wouldn't be congruent with who I am(I would be the creepy guy standing on the wall looking for that chick, or the lame off to the side with his drink in his hand looking like Hannibal Lecter, no thanks). Meta let me asks you do you have fun going to the clubs? do you dance? do you enjoy yourself? you sound like a predator dog. If I just wanna "chase" women, I can do that from the comforts of my home and log on myspace or some shhit like that(not everyone comes up in the club all the time "player" even you don't come up all the time, that's life). I go out with my crew (females and males) pop some bottles, have fun and meet people. I have never gone to the club with the mindset of "hey I need more friends, let me be social..." I make friends wherever I go in my walks of life, whether its at work or just out and about, you never know who you gonna meet.

Meta we can go back and forth on this all day. Snowplow said it best, its a matter of preference. If I didn't think this "social proof" thing worked, i wouldn't even do it. I'm a very outgoing person, its congruent with who I am. I have got lot of help in the 3 months from you guys (including you) and my game has improved tremendously to a point where I don't have to go chase chicks anymore(no bullshhht), when I go to clubs the number objective has always been to have fun, there is no pressure when it comes to females since I have become less outcome dependent, certain aspects have gotton easier for me, when it comes to women (I have done ish in the last 3 months which I never thought I could). This is the great thing about this community we all have different game, Not everyone can do the social proof, not everyone can do the "player" game. This is what makes this community unique

You posted about your friend who does "social proof" and doesn't get laid. I have a wing who I consider a mentor, and his social proof is so ridiculous that he doesn't approach women at all, they approach him. He gets approached so much, that he can't get back in contact with half the women he meets and hence has to "charge them to the game". He has 15 women that he can call at anytime to hang out, smash, watch a movie and enjoy life. I know another guy who bangs 2-3 different chicks a week because he goes to the same bar and he gets free drinks/cover etc etc I can go on and on and on about guys who utilize "social proof" and are very successful

Peace

Solo

 

[Metaphysical]

social proof isn't for "advanced players". social proof is for internet nerds who have never had a real friend.

normal folks do not spend 2 or 3 days a week in a club socializing. they have lives to life and things to accomplish.

people who have serious issues in their lives will spend 3 nights a week "socializing" in a club. (aside of bartenders, promoters, owners)

my friend who goes clubbing 7 nights a week is still hurting over the fact that his ex girlfriend dumped him. he goes clubbing so he can get away from his pathetic miserable life.

a lot of internet nerds do the same. they go clubbing and get silly drunk so they can forget about how bad it is to be all alone at home and how cold that bed is and no woman wants to sleep with them.

You posted about your friend who does "social proof" and doesn't get laid. I have a wing who I consider a mentor, and his social proof is so ridiculous that he doesn't approach women at all, they approach him. He gets approached so much, that he can't get back in contact with half the women he meets and hence has to "charge them to the game". He has 15 women that he can call at anytime to hang out, smash, watch a movie and enjoy life.

that's the whole truth behind the social proof

your "MENTOR" has 15 women he can call to HANG OUT, GET DRUNK and WATCH MOVIES WITH

i have more than 15 women on my cell phone who I could call to come over and svck my dick, buy me gifts and pay for my dinner. why? because these women are obsessed with me, not just entertained by a stupid act that i put on. so they are willing to do anything just for a chance. they will take it in the ass and swallow it.

if you just want to "hang out" then go your way and do the social thing. but if you actually want women who become obsessed with you and end up falling under your spell willing to do "ANYTHING IT TAKES", then it's time to drop the clown act and become a real player

 

[Snow Plowman]

You must be very lonely if you go to a club to socialize. Normal folks don't do that, only people with some kind of issue troubling them do that.

I have too damn much stuff in my life to sit around like you and recruit 10 women to hang out with and not fvck them. Like I said you better get paid for bringing all those women to the clubs.

What!? What's Normal?

Sitting around with a drink in your hand watching others have fun...Sitting on a CROWDED train with other human's inches away from you saying NOTHING...Not doing something you want to do because you can get judged

FUK THAT

This is the problem with the community they learn a SKILL but never actually transfer it into there life to enhance there quality of life, and people wonder why they have alot of incongruency in there identity.

FIRST STOP THINKING IN TERMS OF PICKUP...Your going about your day, you see CHICKS EVERYWHERE, you naturally chat them up (Unless your "Pickup Cape" is in your bookbag) and you take her # to invite her out with your friends. It's SO EASY takes barely any effort.

You sound like one of my wings who can COLD APPROACH...But can't actually get chicks from my social circle because he's SO NERVOUS because he's always thinking in PU Terms so he can approach when he's out SARGING but going home on the train, just going to school and chatting up chicks...He can't do...It's SAD.

Now who the hell wants to run around trying to make friends with everybody wasting so much time?

And don't tell me it's not about getting laid. You wouldn't come to a website like this..

Your lack of success is because you keep wasting your time building these massive social circles instead of focusing on the issue at hand, which is seducing that woman and bringing her to your house.

???

I'm not sure how long you've been in this but when you actually got this HANDLED, your focus changes. I know my goal was to change my whole identity completely, into the guy I always wanted to be and living the lifestyle I always wanted. The results now are FAR BETTER than back when all I was trying to do was have more lays than my cousin...

NOW sex isn't even a thought as I realized it's a side effect of being that GUY that chicks just want to FUK. I've had BIZZARE experiences with that whole thing from "Chicks asking to makeout with me for fun" to "Chick's friend DEMANDING I FUK her friend". This maybe ego based or not but I ONLY FUK chicks that I think are HOT...I no longer settle for a average or cute chick because sex is abundant and I rather them be in my social circle and they can hook up with my friends.

Now I don't know about you and your LIFE but having 10+ girls that your actively FUKING, is almost unrealistic if your ACTUALLY living your life, ESPECIALLY if your still going out and having fun because you will be meeting new women weekly.

This whole "FUK EVERYTHING IN SITE" is a bit of a scarcity mentality because if you had options of having sex with 6 different model looking chicks who were all COOL, would you honestly be going out trying to hook up with some average chick?

He still has not developed the skills to be able to seduce women and he has no game at all.

Of course he wouldn't be hooking up with those chicks...All your examples have NOTHING to do with what were talking about, your basically saying the average man who hangs with a group of girls and is chode doesn't get laid consistently...OF COURSE he won't that's common sense and I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about a guy who actually is learning how to get with women, who actually doesn't have this "PU Mode" and actually brings the things he learned into his ACTUAL LIFE.

 

[Snow Plowman]

if you just want to "hang out" then go your way and do the social thing. but if you actually want women who become obsessed with you and end up falling under your spell willing to do "ANYTHING IT TAKES", then it's time to drop the clown act and become a real player

That whole post was DUMB...Your talking about regular unaware GUYS...It's all a preference but BOTTOMLINE as far as social circles go, When your just that GUY who chicks just want to FUK...Sex isn't even a THOUGHT, I purposely had to SCREEN HARDER and create a boundary with myself NOT to FUK chicks who were 7 and under, to only go for the HOTTEST because I was having a HUGE QUALITY problem. I had more doors opened than I could've physically handled and even at that time I was selective.

As far as social circle goes, if I was 21 right now and went through the experiences I experienced in the past 10 months, I would've virtually had an UNLIMITED amount of women who would've been "My 10s" and just some real COOL People...People in the Culinary Industry, Acting/Film Industry, Fashion Industry, Nightlife Scene, La La Land Scene.



Like just a few KEY THINGS about social circle and it's potential...
A. The FUN EXPERIENCE...You already know your going to get laid its a side effect...You can actually have FUN, joking around, memorable moments and just have a BLAST...There is nothing better than having a KICK ASS time and then end of the night go home and have sex.

B. The information and connections you get...I've learned about new resturants, got free drinks, tables and access to clubs, (If I was 21) once I even got invited to go to "Russell Simmons Private Bday Party"...also got invited to go to some coporate parties to eat there five star food...also once got invited to roll with my boy who was going to a party that ONLY had girls and the chick wanted him to bring guys. (I can go on and on with this one)

C. Friends of Friends...This one was a big eye opener because I'd be with these model chicks and turns out there friends were ALSO MODEL CHICKS, what was only 2 girls turned into 7 girls all HOT...My friend's GF happens to know the management of one of the hottest NY night clubs...Some cool LA chicks who's daughter hangs with will smith...Guy who's GF is a billionarie's daughter...Photographers who would give me access to parties and make me come to photoshoots... (I can go on and and with this)

D. CHOICE of being ALONE/Social Circle/Gf/FB/Friends/etc...I want to try all the resturants in NY that are GOOD and has UNIQUE/Different Foods, so people in my social circle usually tell me about new places and they come with me...I get free tickets to plays so I can go with my social circle...We can plan trips or just stay indoors and banter or play a board game.

E. NON-COMMUNITY FRIENDS WIN!!!...The fact that you already have you own girls your fuking and you got female friends who are COOL, your regular friends have an easier time finding COOL chicks who they find attractive. I know in my PERSONAL experience I got two COMMUNITY guys laid and ONE Non-Community guy laid because I introduced them to chicks I knew and another guy has had atleast a dozen makeouts because of this. (Whether he followed up or not I don't know)

BOTTOMLINE...Whether your coming from a GET LAID angle or LIFESTLE angle you benefit. Laying chicks in social circles is the EASIEST thing EVER so if you just wanted to get laid then you'd again be limiting yourself...At the sametime it can really enhance your life. (I actually have a friend who purposely got into a japanese sub-culture social circle...JUST so he can get with the hottest japanese chicks that he likes, that he's attracted too)

All those examples may seem surface level based but I REALLY enjoy life on a more subtle level that can't be expressed in text...Waste or Not you be the judge...It's your life, Ima live mines...

 

[Metaphysical]

That whole post was DUMB...Your talking about regular unaware GUYS...It's all a preference but BOTTOMLINE as far as social circles go, When your just that GUY who chicks just want to FUK...Sex isn't even a THOUGHT, I purposely had to SCREEN HARDER and create a boundary with myself NOT to FUK chicks who were 7 and under, to only go for the HOTTEST because I was having a HUGE QUALITY problem. I had more doors opened than I could've physically handled and even at that time I was selective.

this is where you guys are wrong.

the "PUA" community teaches you that regular guys are all FRUSTRATED CHUMPS.

that is far from the truth.

"NERDS" are frustrated chumps, not regular guys.

your NORMAL guys have no problem getting laid. my best friend is on the football team and he gets more ass than a toilet seat. he never picked up a book on picking up women.

it's not just about the big football jocks either. the other close friend of mine is a mechanic. when he heard I used to go to the clubs 2-3 nights a week he would laugh and ask me what the hell is wrong with me inside that i had to do that?

and he was right about it.

the guy has no problems getting laid either. that's what NORMAL guys are like. this guy never picked up a book and read anything on being with women, but he has banged 30-40 girls also. you guys would probably say these guys are "NATURALS", but no. they are JUST NORMAL guys.

its only the nerds who have these issues of not being able to approach women or not being able to "escalate".

Most of the guys on the internet are nerds and most friends you guys have are also, NERDS. So you look at them and you see they have no success and think the rest of the guys out there don't have success.

I used to make the same mistake of thinking "Oh if he is not in the community he is an AFC".

But then again it wasn't the case. It goes more like the lines "If he is a NERD, then he is an AFC".

Lemme repeat that for you knuckleheads:

NORMAL GUYS don't have a problem getting women.

Normal guys don't waste their time 3 nights a week in a club socializing trying to build social proof. Only people who have something seriously wrong inside of them go through all that. They are trying to escape something and run away from their past.

When I used to live that lifestyle I was escaping the fact that I used to be an undesired NERD. It felt lonely being home with no one to sleep with. So I used to go out and try to pick up women. Just like the rest of the wallflowers out there in a club.

Most those folks hugging the wall in clubs, are nerds lonely and desperate for a woman. So they go in a club and they sit there stiff not moving their bodies.

Only a nerd would do that. Normal folks don't even waste their time going to a club. And if they did, they would feel the beat and bob their head to the music and then get on the dance floor instead of sitting there stiff with a drink in their hand.

Let me repeat this for you guys one more time..

NORMAL guys don't have problems getting women. NERDS do.

 

[Metaphysical]

this whole "I am in the community so I am better than the average guy" thing is BULLSH!T.

it is an ego based thing.

these nerds spend all their lives being BENEATH the normal people, so now that they feel part of this community of internet creeps, they start to THINK they are special.

but i guarantee that if you compare a guy whos been in the community for a few years with a NORMAL guy, the normal guy will still be more successful with women.

saying NORMAL guys are AFCs is just a lame way to try to push yourself up when you know there's something wrong inside you. it's a totally ego based thing.

 

[Metaphysical]

damn internet crashed on me ..

let me continue

look at the population in a club.

you have the cool guys who are the owner, promoters, bouncers. none of these guys have a problem getting laid.

sometimes a player goes in clubs to recruit women for his team.

and by player i mean PLAYER who is cold and calculated and goes there to seduce women.

and then you have a bunch of clowns running around giving high 5's to each other. those are all the nerds who read "The Game".

and then you have the nerds, who are sitting stiff on the wall and afraid of the world around them.

ok, so the bouncers have to be there because it's their job. so do the promoters and owners.

then take a look at the rest of the folks. there is something wrong inside of them to show up in a club. the nerds are so lonely at home in that empty and cold bed. they are trying to change their miserable lives. they hope if they sit around in a club 3-4 nights a week, that will change and they will meet the woman of their dreams.

but when you look at the women in a club.. you notice that 99% of them are attention *****s. the rest 1% are just normal girls who got dragged in there by their friends.

those 99% of women, are there for what reason? let me hear you say it: ATTENTION

there is something wrong inside them too. their DADDY ignored them when they were little girls, or their uncle felt them up, or boys did not check them out enough, or they did not have breasts until they hit their 20s.

there is something messed up inside their minds that they are trying to run away from.

so they get all dressed up and dolled up, paint their faces on and do their hair for 3-4 hours.. then they go in a mini-skirt on -15 degrees weather and they take the 1.5 hour long subway ride.. they get frostbite on their pvssy on the way to the club, JUST so they can run away from the fact that they were undesired when they were young.

look around you in a club sometime. it really feels like you are amongst Zombies if you ever trully wake up.

i'm not saying not to HUNT in a club for a woman. but going 3-4 nights a week "SOCIALIZING" means you have some bigger problems inside you that you need to heal.

you probably know that's true but you don't want to admit it.

why else would you go to a club just to have your picture taken with some girls and brag about it on the internet?

 

[Solomon]

No one ever said pimpin was easy

Honestly though bro, I go out every weekend and sparking social proof is as easy as chatting up a group of girls. True, sometimes it may take a little longer than usual.

However the whole hassle of assembling girls to go to a club with you in itself smells pretty AFCish to me.

I'm not denying that it works, because believe me I know when I'm chatting up a group of girls at the club, they are all eye f*cking me just for the sheer fact that I have women around me.

However, there's a certain point when TRYING for pvssy just goes to far and you have to step back and say, "What am I doing here?" Am I here to have fun and pick up women or am I soley here to bring something home? Bringing something home while nice, is not my #1 goal of the night. Desperate men choose this as their #1 goal.

Rolling to the club with women is not pathetic if it just happens, however calling up women to be your wingwomen at the club in my opinion is.

What I meant is that sometimes social proof takes a lot of energy, not that its hard, its super easy for me, hence I do it and it works, Imagine going to a spot not paying a damn for your drinks (cause you social proof'd it up) and still having time do lay in ground work...

 

[TheRealSupreme]

Once again if all you wanna do is get laid, then so be it do you, however when your game becomes advanced it comes to a point where you can basically not only promote yourself but also if you are smart start a business(using your "social proof" to meet the right people), next thing you know you have your own club and it all started because of "social Proof"

but you guys here just wanna get laid.......

*sigh*

SOLOMON THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON YOU.

1. I own a business and have for over 20 years. What that means I do not let another man determine my life and destiny by earning a "pay check." Some can do it some can't handle it. Walking into a club with 10 ho's on my arm isn't about starting a business unless I was in the night club business doing guerilla marketing.

2. Social proof is a weak man's attempt at being popular. If you gotta use a bunch of women to win some kinda ego thing in a club then so be it. I have boned over 129 women and I have never had to use other females to do it. The only time I used other females to get females was when I was running a call girl service.

3. Solomon you got sucked up into that old thing that was on here years ago where cowards were trying to say they were not about just getting pvssy. This whole site is about just getting pvssy so don't get it twisted and fall into those nerds bull. That whole I am here to better myself is a load of shyt. Everyone of those guys who said that had one huge wrist from wacking off.

4. I see Solo as you call yourself that your not a leader. I can see that your friends are popular and your one of those guys I recall in my own past that liked to hang out and hopefully get scraps from the table of pvssy. I challenge you to increase your low self esteem and become the cool guy in the club and you will see a real man's way to getting laid. You won't need anyone but yourself when you walk in.

5. I also challenge you to let this pua study/worship thing that your doing go. Look at your boys or look at the cool players in the clubs. They don't use this stuff.

6. I also challenge you to cut that receeded hair off and shave it. Grow a gottee. Lose weight off your chunky behind and become they type of guy since your very dark like Wesely Snipes, who can get laid without gimmics. Quit wearing a brady bunch wanna be player clothes and develop into the baddest player in your area.

7. I think Metaphysical can help you where your going wrong in your dress department. You probably dont even know that women look at how your dressed and either get turned on or turned off in the area of opening their legs to you. Yes your black so you do know it's about the clothes too. Let these other guys think that clothes don't count. That is until they look at videos put out by style of his bootcamp folks all dressed up.

8. I know your gonna come back with some junk talking out the side of your mouth at me a older player in the game due to your ego. That is ok cause I won't read it playa. If you want some help and ideas then pm me after you settle down. I feel sorry for blacks who end up trying pua crap out and then lying and pretending they ain't one.

9. The choice is yours. Either grow up lil man or stay as you are.

 

[Snow Plowman]

the "PUA" community teaches you that regular guys are all FRUSTRATED CHUMPS.

This is comical, but off-topic...I'm not going to sit here talking about non-community guys. Plain and Simple, you have natural dudes and you have guys who are chodes, the amount of naturals to chodes is VERY FAR in between. People have sex.

Most of the guys on the internet are nerds and most friends you guys have are also, NERDS. So you look at them and you see they have no success and think the rest of the guys out there don't have success.

This part was hilarious which is why I quoted it...Check my past threads I have a thread on all my natural friends, are they good with women yep. My thought on this whole thing has nothing to do with ONLINE THEORY its what I see with my own two eyes.

NORMAL GUYS don't have a problem getting women.

What's NORMAL?

Yep I'm not normal I'm a food addict who goes around trying to taste all different kinds of foods before he dies...who happens to go to acting school and puts on his horrible accents when he walks down the street...O and how can we forget the most Non-NORMAL thing in the world ASTRAL PROJECTION.
Guess I'm glad to not be NORMAL because I'm loving my life...

Seriously I don't like people saying NORMAL because it's basically saying "Follow Everyone else and learn what's normal". This is why you got dumb sh!t like people not being creative and instead following trends and looking to others before they actually do something.

this whole "I am in the community so I am better than the average guy" thing is BULLSH!T.

???

Yep I'm so EGO BASED...This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about and if that is the impression you got of me YOUR WAY OFF...I'm not going to sit here arguing about NORMAL GUYS and COMMUNITY GUYS because that's just retarded. In everything there is the good, the bad and the ugly.

look at the population in a club.

Are you kidding me? Am I really suppose to respond to this...All I know you have a HORRIBLE mindset as far as your take on a clubs go.

I'm sorry but in my eyes your analogy is FLAWED as the only thing I remember is ME and all the dumb/fun/hilarious/memorable stuff that went on in my experience. The world is a BIG GIANT PLAYGROUND that I play on, the club is one environment where I'm fun being my RETARD/NOT NORMAL self.

I live for the experience of things...whether I'm on the street, subway, club, school, etc...It's all my playground and I have fun in it. Whether it's umbrella fighting on the subway with two random chicks or YELLING random stuff as I walk the street.