VegasGuy56
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I think the best advice would be for you to kill yourself.
Stop wasting everyone's time.
Stop wasting everyone's time.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Im still a pathetic depressed loser!!!
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
You know what I did have thoughts about killing myself, but I decided not do that.Im going to find a way to change my life and I really dont give a **** about your opinion vegasguy because i know your ****en loser with nothing do then just critize me or insult,huh get a life ****en ***** ass loser!VegasGuy56 said:
Yes I been waiting for the bootcamp when is it going to start?Im defintely going to join I think it will help me improve and hopefully make my life better!B-Lemond said:You want Change?!
Shezz's Bootcamp is Coming Up.
Use all of your pain that you have right now to PROPEL you and MOTIVATE you to COMPLETE the Bootcamp.
You want change?!
This is where you get it: Bootcamp
You can do it dreamx!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
VegasGuy56
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As a follow-up to my previous post:
Note: I can not be held responsible for the consequences that may result from taking any advice suggested by myself (VegasGuy56) or any other persons that may give advice under this pseudonym.
Note: I can not be held responsible for the consequences that may result from taking any advice suggested by myself (VegasGuy56) or any other persons that may give advice under this pseudonym.
VegasGuy56
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OH NO! Say it isn't so Dreamx? You can't read my posts anymore? Oh, now I'll have to cry myself to sleep at night.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
shydude
Master Don Juan
Vegasguy, you realize that everyone else in here will be reading your posts. Just couse you hate dreamx, doesnt mean you should act like a 5 year old, plua your getting bad rep from everyone in here. Its just sick reading your comments, all of them are soo dreadfull, that makes me wanna leave sosuave.
Stop asking for advice that you have already gotten.
You already have all the answers you just choosing to complain that is why your a ****ing retarded waste of space.
Don't just freak out like the loser you are when people speak the truth. If there is logic in their words then listen to it retard.
There is logic in these words.
-> Your a ****ing loser. Your even more of a ****ing loser for complaining about it and then not doing anything. It's obvious that you don't want to do anything and that you just want to complain and get validation and pity. Your not going to get this pity. Your a ****ing loser. Either fix it or keep getting treated like ****.
You already have all the answers you just choosing to complain that is why your a ****ing retarded waste of space.
Don't just freak out like the loser you are when people speak the truth. If there is logic in their words then listen to it retard.
There is logic in these words.
-> Your a ****ing loser. Your even more of a ****ing loser for complaining about it and then not doing anything. It's obvious that you don't want to do anything and that you just want to complain and get validation and pity. Your not going to get this pity. Your a ****ing loser. Either fix it or keep getting treated like ****.
shydude
Master Don Juan
dreamx said:
You have to work at it. First of all transfer to a different school, you told me your school is ghetto, that is the problem why you are a looser, gangsters just pick on you, Yuor are 17, you should choose a better school, then by the time you graduate, just hit the road and move. IN your school you really have no chance, all girls there are ghetto, they will critizise you untill you buy a gun and shoot yourself. My advise, transfer to a new school, gain cofidence and train your mentality. Its all there is, forget about the dress and your looks, you are in no position to start a new life unless you start thinking differently, start focusing on your dreams, not the girls. wanna loose virginity before you graduate, then bang a striper.
Mr_rogers
Senior Don Juan
Dude... I really doubt it has all that much to do with your appearance. Something tells me that you could do just fine if you didn't have the attitude problems that you have.
You can dress up in the best clothes around, but if you're intimidated by people, and lack confidence, it just won't matter. So stop worrying about your appearence and work on your inner game. That's what you were riding my ass over not a week ago, if I remember correctly... Gotta love hypocrisy.
Dreamx... Dude. I don't know how to make it any clearer. You're totally driving everyone else on this forum nuts with your questions. It isn't because you're asking questions that you bother people. It's because you ask questions and then basically do nothing but complain when you fall down and scrape your knee. If I can make one final suggestion...
It would be that you should get a job, join the gym and FORGET about other people! Don't you realize that by worrying about what they think, you're just making your own situation worse, not to mention causing the quality of this forum to go down the drain?
You can dress up in the best clothes around, but if you're intimidated by people, and lack confidence, it just won't matter. So stop worrying about your appearence and work on your inner game. That's what you were riding my ass over not a week ago, if I remember correctly... Gotta love hypocrisy.
While I agree that one of Vegasguy's comments was a bit out of line, I don't blame him for losing patience with Dreamx. I think almost everyone has realized that he is beyond our help now, and that the only way that he's going to improve any is by working on himself. Not his clothes, but the way he speaks, acts and thinks.
Dreamx... Dude. I don't know how to make it any clearer. You're totally driving everyone else on this forum nuts with your questions. It isn't because you're asking questions that you bother people. It's because you ask questions and then basically do nothing but complain when you fall down and scrape your knee. If I can make one final suggestion...
It would be that you should get a job, join the gym and FORGET about other people! Don't you realize that by worrying about what they think, you're just making your own situation worse, not to mention causing the quality of this forum to go down the drain?
shydude
Master Don Juan
Bvbidd said:
I hope you realize, that the kidd is in a ghetto school! Were no girls to be found and were no friend to be made. there are people with knifes and weapons, and I mean its hard to go to ghetto school, were all those gangsters pick on you, and they dont pick on by one, you em they walk in groups!!And chiks there are ghetto too, everyone is retarded in his school, exept 3 nerd friends that get beat up everyday, and they are his friends
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Damian
Senior Don Juan
I've said it and I've said it again, negativity will only lead you into bad places.
Believe me, I know how it feels to be a total social outcast/loser. Been there, done that for three full years of middle school, but I've turned my life a full 180 degrees since then. Now, I'm doing awesome. I have all the friends I could possibly ask for and I get invited to more parties than I can go to. Sure, it's a rather drastic difference, but believe me, there was no one 'magic advice' that I took to instantly turn my life around. It required months upon months of work and self-improvement. With that aside, I will explain exactly why people persist in disliking you.
The keyword here is NEGATIVITY. Everybody gets it once in a while. When you get dumped or when you fail an important test, you might get a bit down, and this is perfectly appropriate and acceptable. It is okay to be negative in small doses. That's just the way of life, with its ups and downs.
Now understand that in your constand mindset of "depression", you are CONSTANTLY and PERSISTENTLY negative. Of course, some people will try to help you or reach out, but because you have been so conditioned as a social outcast, you have trained yourself never to trust anybody but yourself. Of course, there will be a few good samaritans who will actually try to give you a helping hand, but you will not accept it because of your own self-piteous nature.
Now, think of this dilemma from ANOTHER person's perspective, say, Bob. Bob is a friendly guy, he gets along with his group of friends, and is generally a nice guy. He notices that you are emotionally down (sad, angry, or otherwise) and tries to lend a helping hand. He might spend some time to talk to you or even invite you to join his clique in hopes of breaking through your negativity. HOWEVER, because you are so self-absorbed in your own negativity, you don't accept his help, and even if you do, you remain paranoid of people's intentions. At one point, you have to realize that Bob will appropriately think, "Hmm, well I tried to help him, but if he just wants to keep staying negative then it's his problem." and he is perfectly right for thinking so.
Again, I will reiterate that it is perfectly okay to be negative SOMETIMES, but this is only in contrast to a vast majority of POSITIVE attitudes. If you are down, some people will take time out of their own lives to try to brighten your day. However, since you refuse their help and choose to remain negative, you are presumed to be completely absorbed in your own dark ball of angst.
This is an unconscious conditioning of the mind that comes from being ostracized. General suspicion of others motives when they get close. Sabotaging of relationships. Hostility of anybody who tries to criticize. It is nobody's fault but your own, and that is a fact that you will have to accept sooner or later. Nobody on this planet OWES you anything. Nobody is OBLIGATED to help you with anything. But when somebody DOES help you, you twist their motives horribly and snap at them.
In this world, your own misery is your own choice. People make fun of you because, in your negativity, you have created a scapegoat for them. People are annoyed by you because you are persistently negative. People do not want to interact with you because you are hostile. People do not want to give you any constructive criticism because you will twist it into "insults". People tease you because you are easily infuriated and annoyed. People don't even feel like dignifying your replies because you are constantly coming up with reasons justifying your negativity instead of working to improve yourself. People don't like you because you don't even like yourself.
The only change that can come of anything can only come from YOU. NOBODY ELSE. You can can get a sad, angry, or annoyed as you want, but the only solution to your problem is if you admit that it is your OWN fault. After that, all you need to do is to solve the REAL problem.
-Damian
Believe me, I know how it feels to be a total social outcast/loser. Been there, done that for three full years of middle school, but I've turned my life a full 180 degrees since then. Now, I'm doing awesome. I have all the friends I could possibly ask for and I get invited to more parties than I can go to. Sure, it's a rather drastic difference, but believe me, there was no one 'magic advice' that I took to instantly turn my life around. It required months upon months of work and self-improvement. With that aside, I will explain exactly why people persist in disliking you.
The keyword here is NEGATIVITY. Everybody gets it once in a while. When you get dumped or when you fail an important test, you might get a bit down, and this is perfectly appropriate and acceptable. It is okay to be negative in small doses. That's just the way of life, with its ups and downs.
Now understand that in your constand mindset of "depression", you are CONSTANTLY and PERSISTENTLY negative. Of course, some people will try to help you or reach out, but because you have been so conditioned as a social outcast, you have trained yourself never to trust anybody but yourself. Of course, there will be a few good samaritans who will actually try to give you a helping hand, but you will not accept it because of your own self-piteous nature.
Now, think of this dilemma from ANOTHER person's perspective, say, Bob. Bob is a friendly guy, he gets along with his group of friends, and is generally a nice guy. He notices that you are emotionally down (sad, angry, or otherwise) and tries to lend a helping hand. He might spend some time to talk to you or even invite you to join his clique in hopes of breaking through your negativity. HOWEVER, because you are so self-absorbed in your own negativity, you don't accept his help, and even if you do, you remain paranoid of people's intentions. At one point, you have to realize that Bob will appropriately think, "Hmm, well I tried to help him, but if he just wants to keep staying negative then it's his problem." and he is perfectly right for thinking so.
Again, I will reiterate that it is perfectly okay to be negative SOMETIMES, but this is only in contrast to a vast majority of POSITIVE attitudes. If you are down, some people will take time out of their own lives to try to brighten your day. However, since you refuse their help and choose to remain negative, you are presumed to be completely absorbed in your own dark ball of angst.
This is an unconscious conditioning of the mind that comes from being ostracized. General suspicion of others motives when they get close. Sabotaging of relationships. Hostility of anybody who tries to criticize. It is nobody's fault but your own, and that is a fact that you will have to accept sooner or later. Nobody on this planet OWES you anything. Nobody is OBLIGATED to help you with anything. But when somebody DOES help you, you twist their motives horribly and snap at them.
In this world, your own misery is your own choice. People make fun of you because, in your negativity, you have created a scapegoat for them. People are annoyed by you because you are persistently negative. People do not want to interact with you because you are hostile. People do not want to give you any constructive criticism because you will twist it into "insults". People tease you because you are easily infuriated and annoyed. People don't even feel like dignifying your replies because you are constantly coming up with reasons justifying your negativity instead of working to improve yourself. People don't like you because you don't even like yourself.
The only change that can come of anything can only come from YOU. NOBODY ELSE. You can can get a sad, angry, or annoyed as you want, but the only solution to your problem is if you admit that it is your OWN fault. After that, all you need to do is to solve the REAL problem.
-Damian
Mr_rogers
Senior Don Juan
Is it possible for him to meet people that aren't from school? Maybe if he were to go to the mall or something he could meet people who aren't into all that crap, and who are a little more... Erm... Normal? There HAS to be a way to deal with this. I don't care what the problem is, because there must be a solution. That solution is his inner game, not his external game. He needs to stop worrying about girls and start worrying about himself.shydude said:
shydude
Master Don Juan
Mr_rogers said:
Exactly, thats my point!! He is 17 almost 18, he need to get drivers license, transfer to a better school, get a job, all those things, Chiks are later. Women are for people that can handle them, not for people that struggle with their own life.
Mr_rogers
Senior Don Juan
Well, we agree on something for once.shydude said:
Damian also raises the point in the best way possible. I agree that he has to make some changes like his attitude and that kind of thing, but some enviornmental changes would be very helpful too, right? Can we get someone else's opinion on this?
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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
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