"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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im running out of places to take girls...

JohnChops

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So I'm not 21 yet, so close. And I have no idea where to take girls out anymore, especially at night. Not many parties up here and most don't like clubs so what am I to do
? I wanted to hangout with girl A during the day and then ask girl B, who actually likes clubbing, to the club. But not sure what to do with girl A during the day.

What the hell is there to do for a 20 year old?! Mind you its summer up here in the northeast. i think we need an ongoing compilation of thinfs to do for the under 21 crowd here.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Take her home and smash her back doors in!
 

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Running out of places? If theyre new plates who gives a sh1t if you take her to the same place you took another plate. My go to date is over my house once attraction has been established. I do the same thing every time practically. Make some food, put some netflix on and makeout(escalate to sex).
 

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If she can't be thrilled to go to the park with you, then it's no big deal if you lose her, dude. She's not into you, so no loss. If she IS into you, it won't matter where you go. I've taught them karate in the parking lot, in the library. Much, in the early days, can be learned just by sitting there, practicing the proper shaping your natural weapons.
 

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twentee said:
If she can't be thrilled to go to the park with you, then it's no big deal if you lose her, dude. She's not into you, so no loss. If she IS into you, it won't matter where you go. I've taught them karate in the parking lot, in the library. Much, in the early days, can be learned just by sitting there, practicing the proper shaping your natural weapons.

Wow groundra finally a decent post. A yeah but where do you take the same plate . going to the same.place over and over again bored ME. I'm just looking for new ideas.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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When I'm seeing a plate a lot of times, it's something like this:

Bar (drinks) - 1st date (escalate if possible)
Second date - her place or mine (movie/bottle of wine) if no sex she is nexted
Third date - Opposite of above (her/my place) - obv sex.
Fourth, etc date - Either one of our places, if I'm hungry sometimes even dinner (yes shocking!) Sometimes I like to go out to nice places with a HB. No matter what though I make sure we f-close on every date.

Beyond 8-9 dates, you're probably going to get the "what are we" talk. If you want to be exclusive, then do it and then make dates wherever you want to go. The places aren't as important as actually seeing her.
 

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Some ideas:
*Play a game of pool/billiards.
*Walk in the park.
*Go to your place.
*Go to her place.
*Go to a local bakery for a pastry.
*Go to a coffee shop for coffee or hot chocolate.
*Watch a movie at your or her place.
*Go to an icecream shop.
*Go to a decent but inexpensive restaurant.
*Go to a fast food place.
*Go to a farmer's market and pick up some fresh food for her to cook.
*Make an event of mundane things by combining activities....Bring her to your favorite store or shop, then afterward grab a bite at a fast food place.
*Go to several shops and then grab something sweet. If you're on your way somewhere and see a cotton candy stand and like cotton candy, pull over and get some.
*Pick several movies to watch together.
*Watch an "adult movie" together and if you see anything new you'd like to try, try it.
*Take a day trip to some place that is within 3 hours from where you live.


Ok. Those are a few ideas. If I think of more I will list them later.
 

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summer = swimming

im actually surprised why nobody mentioned it.
there are many advantages in swimming like she gets to see your six pack,
kino opportunities, pool sex (yum) and lots of other stuff

just go to a pool/beach which ain't full of desperate chumps and wannabe faggot alphas.

so here's my list:

beach
swimming
jogging
rafting
jetski
diving (you can fake drowning and get a makeout..*cough* i meant CPR :rolleyes: )
hunting
fishing (no effing way she is coming fishing unless she is a redneck...lol)

eat watermalons at your place
hiking
visit a museum or aquarium (WARNING: for AFCs only)
 

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There's only 2 places you need, your place or hers...no more of this dating bull****.

P.S You don't even need that, here's fields, woods, beaches, you name it, get creative ;)
 

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Your house. You don't need to impress a girl by taking her out somewhere nice, especially at our age. And if you do them she's not worth it anyway. If she likes you then she likes you, and just being with you will be enough for her.

I've the 10 sexual partners I've had I have NEVER had to take one of them out on a proper "date" as I've never needed to. My best mate on the other hand has taken loads of girls on "dates" and spent loads of money on them with a 0% success rate. The ones he was successful with liked him enough to go to his house and have sex.

I love the swimming idea though, if you have a pretty nice body.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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switch said:
visit a museum or aquarium (WARNING: for AFCs only)
Not if you're into that. If you're doing it for you then it's not AFC. If you're only going there because you want to impress her then yes.
 

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switch said:
visit a museum or aquarium (WARNING: for AFCs only)
That's BS, unless she's a bimbo she'll probably enjoy getting some culture. Especially if you're intellectual at all.
 
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