"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm ready to get laid again. Let's see how long it takes.

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My Name is Nobody said:
Maybe I will ask for her friends Myspace ID now.

Nah, I wouldn't suggest that. I would suggest you leave with that last line I suggested.

Then ignore her, like Iqqi suggested.

If you have to spell out for her that you want something romantic, then she's an idiot.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Solution

Anyways, I will give you the real solution to this issue.

Get over the fear of being friends with a woman. MNIN should take this woman for what she is worth... a social life. An option. A plan A B or C. As long as he isn't paying, what is the problem with hanging out with three hot chicks? Best yet, it is three HOT CHICKS, not three girls, a guy, and MNIN. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM.

It is his NEED and DESPERATION to get laid. Which is also my bet, why she isn't into him.

MNIN should go out with these chicks as friends, because everytime he does, he is in the path of opportunity.

1. AW's hot friend
2. The hot chick two tables over
3. The hot bartender
4. The two hotties sitting at the bar
5. The hot chick that just walked in the door
6. The hot chick he meets at the diner they go to afterwards
7. The hot chick he sees at ___________

I mean, damn. Do you see where I am going with this?

If nothing else, he can enjoy a night of harmless flirting (practice makes perfect), alcohol, music, and dancing.

Better than sitting at home with He, Himself, and Pam Handerson.
 

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Anyone else see the irony in the title of this thread?
 
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iqqi said:
Anyways, I will give you the real solution to this issue.

Get over the fear of being friends with a woman. MNIN should take this woman for what she is worth... a social life. An option. A plan A B or C. As long as he isn't paying, what is the problem with hanging out with three hot chicks? Best yet, it is three HOT CHICKS, not three girls, a guy, and MNIN. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM.

It is his NEED and DESPERATION to get laid. Which is also my bet, why she isn't into him.

MNIN should go out with these chicks as friends, because everytime he does, he is in the path of opportunity.

1. AW's hot friend
2. The hot chick two tables over
3. The hot bartender
4. The two hotties sitting at the bar
5. The hot chick that just walked in the door
6. The hot chick he meets at the diner they go to afterwards
7. The hot chick he sees at ___________

I mean, damn. Do you see where I am going with this?

If nothing else, he can enjoy a night of harmless flirting (practice makes perfect), alcohol, music, and dancing.

Better than sitting at home with He, Himself, and Pam Handerson.
Why don't you have a seat. I don't want to waste a Friday night on this woman.

I have another one who is hotter, and more interesting that I went out with last weekend.

She has called me both days this week to let me know she had a great time.

That is who I am going out with this weekend.

Thank you, have a nice day.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Anyone else see the irony in the title of this thread?
The irony would be if he changed the title to "I am ready to not get laid again. Let's see how long it takes"; he would get laid. :rolleyes:
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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guru1000 said:
The irony would be if he changed the title to "I am ready to not get laid again. Let's see how long it takes"; he would get laid. :rolleyes:
I guess you need to have a look at my previous post as well. I have a better option than this non english speaking ditz.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
I guess you need to have a look at my previous post as well. I have a better option than this non english speaking ditz.

I think we are witnessing the transformation of MNIN from dumb blonde and AFC to dumb blonde and bitter.

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ThunderMaverick said:
Then ignore her, like Iqqi suggested.
Listen to your Uncle TM.

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I think we are witnessing the transformation of MNIN from dumb blonde and AFC to dumb blonde and bitter.

:eek:

Yeah right, I'm happy as hell. I walked into work with a smile on my face because the girl I really like who I went out with this weekend keeps calling and texting me.

I'm happy.

That's why I am playing with this other one, I don't care. She's expendable.
 

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Yeah right, I'm happy as hell. I walked into work with a smile on my face because the girl I really like who I went out with this weekend keeps calling and texting me.

I'm happy.
Who are you trying to convince, Mr. Justin Timberlake?

I believe you. Of course.
 

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I can definitely see where Iqqi is coming from.

That sounds really cool, actually. Apparently it works for STR8UP too.

I'm just saying most of the times I'VE personally been successful with women I DUG we were both clear in what we wanted - or the very clear POSSIBILITY of it. I didn't really have to build up anything with friends or bartenders or whatever.
I'm not going to be friends with someone and then she says to herself "ooh! NOW i'm attracted to this guy!" It happens ALL THE TIME and it works, like Iqqi says, but me personally, I don't desire it.

To me it's a waste of time. Attraction is VERY important, and if she doesn't feel a bit of that when we meet or have a first date, I don't continue with it.

Drop this one, MN.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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iqqi said:
Who are you trying to convince, Mr. Justin Timberlake?

I believe you. Of course.

I don't care if you believe me or not. Francisco knows the entire story and has seen her picture.
 
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Iqqi can't phase me.. yeah I may have missed an opportunity to go out and meet people with these girls.. but I don't want it.
 

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Iqqi can't phase me.. yeah I may have missed an opportunity to go out and meet people with these girls.. but I don't want it.
Exactly and what YOU want is most important.
 

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I can definitely see where Iqqi is coming from.

That sounds really cool, actually. Apparently it works for STR8UP too.

I'm just saying most of the times I'VE personally been successful with women I DUG we were both clear in what we wanted - or the very clear POSSIBILITY of it. I didn't really have to build up anything with friends or bartenders or whatever.
I'm not going to be friends with someone and then she says to herself "ooh! NOW i'm attracted to this guy!" It happens ALL THE TIME and it works, like Iqqi says, but me personally, I don't desire it.

To me it's a waste of time. Attraction is VERY important, and if she doesn't feel a bit of that when we meet or have a first date, I don't continue with it.

Drop this one, MN.
I'm just saying, most people are good for something. She is offering him a social plan B on a silver platter.

You have to get the whole, she is good for one thing or nothing, mentality out of your head. Otherwise you are a slave to your need for validation (and or sex)... AND lonely on nights you COULD BE hanging out with hot latin chicks and at the same time enjoying the benefits of being out in the night, and putting yourself in destiny's path (this will never ever be your living room).
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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WHATEVER

This girl is STILL texting me...

She said

"I am going to sleep...it's so much better"



What the ****?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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