"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I'm ready to get laid again. Let's see how long it takes.

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Ok if english is not her second language, then spell it out for her.

"Come hang out with my at MY place. Just me and you."

Send that.


Edit: Apologize!? He's not getting ANY if he apologizes! You know how that's going to make him look.

The only way this'll work is if he sticks true to what he wants. Apologizing is going to make him look like an indecisive back-peddler. Big no no.

She doesn't get English that well and American wit, MN, so just make it clear.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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iqqi said:
I knew this was going to happen.

But don't think I'm going to save you now from the rest. You are just getting played like a divorced Ken doll. Sucker.

Apologize or die.
Get out.

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Ok if english is not her second language, then spell it out for her.

"Come hang out with my at MY place. Just me and you."

Send that.
Cool.
 

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"You can't shake hands with a closed fist".

Anyways, DON'T do this:

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Ok if english is not her second language, then spell it out for her.

"Come hang out with my at MY place. Just me and you."

Send that.
 

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Send it. The girl is off her rocker.

Don't listen to her. Listen to your uncle ThunderMaverick. You've got nothing to lose, so stop acting like you do!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ThunderMaverick said:
Send it. The girl is off her rocker.

Don't listen to her. Listen to your uncle ThunderMaverick. You've got nothing to lose, so stop acting like you do!

I don't listen to Iqqi anymore. I do the opposite of what she says. I sent it.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
*sits back, arms folder over head*

Ahhh ya see, Iqqi? MyName loves me and I love him and I am prepared to FIGHT dearly for him. He knows I know what I'm talking about.

Hit the showers, sister!:D
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
I don't listen to Iqqi anymore. I do the opposite of what she says. I sent it.
Good man. Gooood man. =D There will be no backing out on your goofy friend's part.

She knows English well enough to KNOW what you mean.

Edit: I cannot WAIT to her her answer...or excuse.
 

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He is just mad at me.

You had him doing great until tonight.

You guys still don't get it, when it comes to women. She texted him that message today to prove she still has him attached to the line. He should've semi gangi'd her a$$. She was semi interested, because she cared enough to see if he was still on the line. He could've raised her IL by not taking the bait. Instead...

You are just getting played like a divorced Ken doll. Sucker.

PAY ATTENTION TO THE PART IN RED. IT IS LIKE POETRY... IT HOLDS THE MEANING.
 
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iqqi said:
He is just mad at me.

You had him doing great until tonight.

You guys still don't get it, when it comes to women. She texted him that message today to prove she still has him attached to the line. He should've semi gangi'd her a$$. She was semi interested, because she cared enough to see if he was still on the line. He could've raised her IL by not taking the bait. Instead...

You are just getting played like a divorced Ken doll. Sucker.
I'm not mad at you. You give bad advice and you do it on purpose to make guys on here fail. I just have you figured out now.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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iqqi said:
He is just mad at me.

You had him doing great until tonight.

You guys still don't get it, when it comes to women. She texted him that message today to prove she still has him attached to the line. He should've semi gangi'd her a$$. She was semi interested, because she cared enough to see if he was still on the line. He could've raised her IL by not taking the bait. Instead...

You are just getting played like a divorced Ken doll. Sucker.

Psh! Get out of dodge, bro! How is he getting played? Getting played would have been to go out with her, WITH HER FRIENDS! We all know that if you're even semi interested in a dude you're NOT going out with friends on a DATE.

He's doing what he needs to be doing: Taking control of the situation. You want her to control it? She been doing that for the past month!

NOT ANYMORE!!! STRIKE TRUE, MN!!

Strike true.

Edit: I saw you change the font color to Red, Iqqi. I keep catching you. :crackup:

Edit 2: Actually, did you like my advice to him last night, Iqqi? The "hot and cold" reply?

Be truthful.
 
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Psh! Get out of dodge, bro! How is he getting played? Getting played would have been to go out with her, WITH HER FRIENDS! We all know that if you're even semi interested in a dude you're NOT going out with friends on a DATE.

He's doing what he needs to be doing: Taking control of the situation. You want her to control it? She been doing that for the past month!

NOT ANYMORE!!! STRIKE TRUE, MN!!

Strike true.

Edit: I saw you change the font color to Red, Iqqi. I keep catching you. :crackup:
I think Iqqi gets a kick out of giving AFC's bad advice and watching them fail. That's why she is here so much.
 

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My Name is Nobody said:
I think Iqqi gets a kick out of giving AFC's bad advice and watching them fail. That's why she is here so much.

Well I don't think she wants to see us fail overall. I think she wants to see guys fail when they don't follow her advice though.

Edit: I'd love to keep this text message vigil up, but I have to go. Be back soon! Let me know what she says!
 
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LOLLLLLLLLLL!

She just replied

"No. I, you and my friends go and play"

WTF is her problem. NEXT
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
Psh! Get out of dodge, bro! How is he getting played? Getting played would have been to go out with her, WITH HER FRIENDS! We all know that if you're even semi interested in a dude you're NOT going out with friends on a DATE.

He's doing what he needs to be doing: Taking control of the situation. You want her to control it? She been doing that for the past month!

NOT ANYMORE!!! STRIKE TRUE, MN!!

Strike true.

Edit: I saw you change the font color to Red, Iqqi. I keep catching you. :crackup:

Edit 2: Actually, did you like my advice to him last night, Iqqi? The "hot and cold" reply?

Be truthful.
When I said apologize, I didn't mean to her, lol.

He should not have replied to her text today.

She is just seeing if he is still there, and he proved he was.

Guess you guys don't get the divorced Ken doll metaphor.

Your advice was great last night, but now you have shown your weakness. You get too excited by any sign from a chick.

She isn't giving the RIGHT signs. She is still in control, he is still all "when can I see you, come to my place, why NOT?"
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Well I don't think she wants to see us fail overall. I think she wants to see guys fail when they don't follow her advice though.
Like I said before, he is just mad at me.

He is speaking in unresolved anger.

Get over it, MNIN! SUCKER! (You wouldn't be a sucker if you had a sense of humour, which is your biggest downfall period even in all your threads...)

It was for your own good...
 

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No, she's not in control. She's NEXT'd.

With good reason. She never gave the vibes that she was into him in the first place. She wanted another GUY friend.

We know that a woman isn't going to wait a month to get physical with a guy if she's attracted. There might be special cases, but we don't cater to those unless we feel the woman is worth it.

Her signs of interest were poor. Her signs were WRONG. We're not going to carry the load if a woman doesn't know what she wants.

She obviously wasn't worth the hassle of isolation. She was an ATTENTION WH0RE.
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
No, she's not in control. She's NEXT'd.

With good reason. She never gave the vibes that she was into him in the first place. She wanted another GUY friend.

We know that a woman isn't going to wait a month to get physical with a guy if she's attracted. There might be special cases, but we don't cater to those unless we feel the woman is worth it.

She obviously wasn't worth the hassle of isolation. She was an ATTENTION WH0RE.
EXACTLY.

But he keeps giving her attention... worse yet, he still wants HER attention.

He is being suckered.

Worse yet, he could get somewhere with this, but he can't see past his own hangups.

EDIT: And trust me, she isn't NEXT'd. And she knows this. She just proved it!
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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