"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm puzzled by a girl

TheVampSlayer

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This is gonna be a long one, but this time I really need help figuring a girl out.

Okay, I went to a camp for like 4 weeks last month. I came back recently. There were several girls in the camp and it was a really big camp. However, most people there were guys. There was this one girl who I've known for years who also happened to be there. My group of friends socialized with her a lot. She used to like (I think) one of my friends. She, however, has no interest in him now. She spent most of the time surrounded by a lot of guys (I'm talking 10-15 a lot of the time, but rarely less than 5). I don't like that sort of setting, because it was mostly a lot of betas trying to get her attention.

She disliked me for a while, because I was having none of her ****, and was the only one that didn't treat her like a princess, although I must admit that I sometimes threw mild insults at her. Eventually, we stopped disliking each other. I seemed disinterested when we spoke, but still had conversations with her, and the days kept going on, and I could feel attraction slowly building. But, here's the tricky part, her regular conversations always seem like flirting.

One day a group of friends of mine and her went to have dinner. She sat opposed to me. I could notice her staring at me from time to time, with eyes of desire. I don't know what else to call them, but if she wasn't attracted then, my whole life has been a lie.

When we had to head home we had to take the same planes. She showed me her phone conversations with her girl-friends(a whatsapp group with 6 friends of hers). I looked at the images. We're underage, but those images had nudity, people drinking and doing drugs, and a lot of stuff like that. It also had a lot of pictures of her friends(the ones with which she had had those conversations). I learned their names and whenever pictures of them showed up I'd tell her who it was. Many pictures were of the girls asking for advice on outfits(including everything from underwear to gala dresses). She seemed particularly impressed when I guessed who it was in pictures that only showed the body and in some only the feet and shoes. During a 16-hour-long flight she stood up for an hour next to my seat while I saw some of those pictures.

In one of the airports we were going to get something to eat(me and her and the other people traveling with us) and I just stared at her and smiled. She had the biggest face on her smile and I just waved(should have winked, should have winked) and then we carried on(but I believe this was a pure sign of attraction). We made a bet on something and if she loses she has to buy me popcorn(in one of those places where they only serve popcorn). She will lose, but I have to wait till tomorrow for it to be official. When we got home and had to say goodbye, she proposed to stay with me until my parents picked me up, but I said no since her father and baby sister had just arrived to pick her up (and I didn't want them to dislike me). We always kiss on the cheek when we say goodbye but she pulled in for the hug (this hadn't happened between us before). As she left, I told her I was claim my reward(popcorn)

Now, my question is, do you believe there is real attraction, or am I misinterpreting it due to her flirty nature? Also, how do I set a date to get that popcorn, and should I pay for it?

Thanks in advance
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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if she's doing drugs i don't think that's a girl you want around.

don't believe there's attraction, find out if there is attraction, the only way you will know is if you ask her to hang out, forget about any popcorn, that isn't important, in a day or two ask her to hang out, if she says no or makes excuses you will have your answer.
 

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She doesn't do drugs, and rarely ever drinks. However, the pictures her friends sent did show other people doing drugs.
 

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TheVampSlayer said:
She doesn't do drugs, and rarely ever drinks. However, the pictures her friends sent did show other people doing drugs.
how do you know? you barely even know her, people always hide what they don't want others to know. so are you going to ask her out or what?
 

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I've known her for years and spent a month with her. I made a joke about doing drugs and she seemed a little creeped out by it. I am 100% sure she doesn't do drugs.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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TheVampSlayer said:
I've known her for years and spent a month with her. I made a joke about doing drugs and she seemed a little creeped out by it. I am 100% sure she doesn't do drugs.
TheVampSlayer said:
And I guess I will ask her out. We don't usually text though.
so you known her for years and you never hung out? :crackup:

just ask her our dude, why are you making it so difficult?
 

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@Tictac Thank you, that's very inspiring. It's people like you that inspired me to join the sosuave community.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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TheVampSlayer

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@Tictac I will
@asa_don I've known her for years but we have never spoken much. I see her from time to time. I'm making it difficult because I have no ****ing clue of what's going on inside her head.
 

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I forgot mentioning, but she asked me to go with her to the pool the one time we were alone together during the camp, and she had no way of knowing if there was gonna be anyone there that she knew before hand. Not sure if this counts as an IOI, but to me it seemed like she was asking me to go to the pool with only her. I went to her room and she changed in the bathroom, and then came out and put some more clothes because she didn't like being seen only in her bathing suit. I did however see her with only her bathing suit. Any thoughts?
 

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Sounds to me that she only sees you as a friend and nothing more. Call her and ask her to go on a date. Making posts to us is not going to help you find out until you hear it from her. See what interest she has. Good Luck man.
 
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