"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm not sure about this DJ tip anymore.

Sir Don

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DJ bible says not to call 4 days before and not to call often except to schedule dates. I do that and it seems the girl's interest level drops, like we dont spend enough time building trust and a bond. I make her wait so much that she isn't returning my call anymore. And the relationship I had that lasted longer is when I do talk to the girl on the phone or online, almost daily. Relationship goes well (last from months to year) until I make other mistakes that gets me LJBFed. But now when I do the no calling her for days and not talk much seems to get me ignore after a couple of weeks. What gives? Anyone experience this too?

Should I drop this tip from my game?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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It depends on the girl. Some girls expect daily contact, some don't mind weeks. It's your job to establish how often she expects you to call.

Then simply call half as much as that.
 

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I think it depends on why you are not calling her, If your not calling her for the sake of not calling her it is kinda stupid, reason being is when you do call her and she says what have you been doing and you reply "nothing much" then she is going to wonder why you didnt call earlier. If you have been busy and then only call because you have a couple of minutes then it is better even if you have to make up stuff you have done, or bust on her about how you have been busy with other women. a typical start to one of my phone convo's
"hey its me, havent called lately as I have been real busy...........you know so many girls, so little time, anywayz I am busy most of this week except for tuesday night, we should meet up and have some fun" or something like that. usually convo is a bit longer but you get the idea.
Just a side note, It is no good knowing what works, if you dont know why it works, guys read the dj bible or listen to these DJ's but dont get why they are doing the things they are doing if you dont get why you have to do something then ask some one. Hope that makes sense
 

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Thanks for the input. I don't call her often mainly because I am busy. I'm not quite sure why things went sour. I'll keep field testing and I find something that works. Maybe it's just the girl or maybe it's me or other unknown factors. I guess no need to waste anymore time with this and move on.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It's prob not a bad idea to move on but make sure you relfect and try and see what went wrong, it is no good nexting a chick if you dont know what happened, that is how I learnt.
 

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Originally posted by Dr Box
It's prob not a bad idea to move on but make sure you relfect and try and see what went wrong, it is no good nexting a chick if you dont know what happened, that is how I learnt.
I always reflect on them. But it's hard to say for sure what lead to it. It could be one thing or many other things. To know for sure is to ask the girl but I doubt she'll give me the real reason. It's really not important anymore..
 

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Is there really a 4 day rule in the bible? Anyway... the point is that you should only be calling a girl to set up dates and really not much more. There isn't any particular number of days set in stone.

The phone is just a tool like a toaster - its not a way to build a relationship. The relationship stuff happens in person.

I don't think phone is your problem.
 
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