"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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"I'm not ready for that yet"

ARrocket

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First off, I realized I fvcked up. Also, I'm back in my hometown for like 2 weeks, not much action here. So this adventure came out of boredom.

This girl I know has had a boyfriend for awhile. I hung out with her last summer, made out in a (isolated) park, but she froze me out from going any further. Last night, she broke up with her boyfriend. I had already made plans to hang out with her, but once I heard that, I got overzealous. Brought her to my place today (told her I wanted to show her some of the stuff I picked up on my recent trip to India).

Got there, put on a movie. She seemed distant. Kissed her...after a few seconds she told me to stop. This is where I think I failed. I tried to plow through. Kept kissing on her, feeling on her, tried to get her turned on. After awhile it just looked like she was about to cry. Epic fail for me, I guess. She says she's not ready for that yet, seeing as she just broke up with the bf.

Of course, I kept trying for a bit more. Until she said she wanted to go home. Took her home. She still seemed pretty talkative and playful after the incident, so maybe she doesn't hate me now. Looking back, I'm glad I made her want to leave...I sure as hell wouldn't want to sit through a fvcking movie with this girl without getting some. As insensitive as that sounds....

Question: Right after a breakup, is it better to wait a few days before pouncing? Or was that not the issue at all, and was it just me failing miserably? I think it might be a little combination of both, just wondering what you guys think.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I don't think you messed up.

Wait a few days. Betcha she'll contact you and then, game on.
 

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Looks like you accomplished the "make the ho say no".

I'd take it as strike one on a 2-strike system. That's just me tho...
 

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depends on the girl, some are happy to go the full monty while still in a relationship if they KNOW its breaking down.

good on you for trying. if she says no though, change the atmousphere in the room & then go back to kissing whatever after. failing that, just stick it in her @ss.
 

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Thanks guys. I am in town for 5 more days, I won't speak to her unless she contacts me. We'll see what happens.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Possibly may have been because of the breakup, depending on how long they were together.

But if she was really into you, that wouldn't stop her, even if she was still in a relationship.

I think the attraction wasn't quite there. 1 strike down. And remember this:

Rollo Tomassi said:
Iron Rule of Tomassi #3 (extract from)

A woman who wants to ƒuck you will find a way to ƒuck you. She will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck the sh!t out of you and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck.
 

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runner83 said:
But if she was really into you, that wouldn't stop her, even if she was still in a relationship.
I hear you, although it seems unlikely given the fact she agreed to come over.

Anyway, she texted me today, inviting to hang out with her and "some of her friends." Needless to say, I declined.

On my last day here, I might just say "hey come over" and if she bites, try one last time. You never know, might work out. And if not...who gives a fvck :rolleyes:
 
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