I was at the gym a little early then normal today so there was a unformiliar crowd there. I see two HBs,one was focused on her treadmill workout another looking around while working out. Well I was checking out the one who was looking around and I made eye contact with her for a second and looked away(I'm getting soft) and I looked back and she was still looking into my eyes,it was on. I go to continue my workout(bad decision should have moved in then) and thought to myself "Alright I'm trying Krauss' direct approach". Well I kept working out and noticed her watching me everyonce and awhile and vica versa. Finally she left,I BLEW IT! I had it made,I knew a few people in there and it showed my social status,I was wearing a wife beater showing the guns,and I kept eye contact with her and I still messed it up! I even had to wait for her to finish a workout to use a machine and I said "Are you done with that",I could have tried SamPedros(sp?) gym method to meet her then,I BLEW IT! There is honestly no worse feeling then knowing I COULD HAVE HAD IT,but yet I'm hear letting you guys know how I WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN!
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
I'm not letting this happen again.
- Thread starter blinkwatt
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
dont sarge in the gym, if you fuk this girl or date her and you guys dont work out, you will see her in the gym.. this is your place of solitude this is were you work on yourself.. not pick up chicks.. dont be "that guy" in the wifebeater showing off the 11 inch "Gunz" hitting on all the treadmill bunnies. All the girls i know other then the few who put pounds of makeup before they go to the gym do not like getitng hit on at the gym. They like you are there to train.
Straight from the man himself.
“The better you get, the less you run around showing off as a muscle guy. You know, you wear regular shirts, loose shirts-not always trying to show what you have. You talk less about it. It’s like you have a little BMW-you want to race the hell out of this car, because you know it’s going 110. But if you see a guy in a Ferrari or Lamborghini, they slide around at 60 on the freeway because they know if they press on that accelerator they are going to go 170. These things are the same in every field.”
Straight from the man himself.
“The better you get, the less you run around showing off as a muscle guy. You know, you wear regular shirts, loose shirts-not always trying to show what you have. You talk less about it. It’s like you have a little BMW-you want to race the hell out of this car, because you know it’s going 110. But if you see a guy in a Ferrari or Lamborghini, they slide around at 60 on the freeway because they know if they press on that accelerator they are going to go 170. These things are the same in every field.”
dont sarge in the gym, if you fuk this girl or date her and you guys dont work out, you will see her in the gym.. this is your place of solitude this is were you work on yourself.. not pick up chicks..
I made a girlfriend out of a chick I met at the gym,I wouldn't take it back for the world. I haven't seen her in the gym since with one exception,it wasn't wierd. I did my thing she did her thing.
dont be "that guy" in the wifebeater showing off the 11 inch "Gunz" hitting on all the treadmill bunnies.
I have gone from 5 8' 115 pounds freshman year in high school,four years later, 5 8' 150 pounds and 10% bodyfat. They aren't 11 inch,they are 14.5inches,not small by any means for my size but not huge.
All the girls i know other then the few who put pounds of makeup before they go to the gym do not like getitng hit on at the gym. They like you are there to train.
When will you learn,anyone can pick up anyone,anytime,anyplace and anywhere. Like I said,I made a girlfriend out a chick I picked up at the gym.
Who says I was "showing off" with my wife beater,I went directly from work to the gym. I even wore my khakis and work shoes,my work shirt is thick so I took it off. I normally go home and change first but my work schedule is a little different this week. It just happened that I look good with a wifebeater.
I made a girlfriend out of a chick I met at the gym,I wouldn't take it back for the world. I haven't seen her in the gym since with one exception,it wasn't wierd. I did my thing she did her thing.
dont be "that guy" in the wifebeater showing off the 11 inch "Gunz" hitting on all the treadmill bunnies.
I have gone from 5 8' 115 pounds freshman year in high school,four years later, 5 8' 150 pounds and 10% bodyfat. They aren't 11 inch,they are 14.5inches,not small by any means for my size but not huge.
All the girls i know other then the few who put pounds of makeup before they go to the gym do not like getitng hit on at the gym. They like you are there to train.
When will you learn,anyone can pick up anyone,anytime,anyplace and anywhere. Like I said,I made a girlfriend out a chick I picked up at the gym.
Who says I was "showing off" with my wife beater,I went directly from work to the gym. I even wore my khakis and work shoes,my work shirt is thick so I took it off. I normally go home and change first but my work schedule is a little different this week. It just happened that I look good with a wifebeater.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
No one said you cant sarge, you can sarge anywhere. Im saying i wouldn't recomend it in the gym. You should be focusing on your pump, working out. Not wasting your time hanging around. 60-90 min is optimal in the gym for performance. After that your body goes catabolic (beging to eat muscle tissues for fuel). Like i said sarge anywhere on the planet, just not the gym. Its your place of solitude to improve. You don't wanna distract yourself with tail.
Do what you want, a buddy of mine is about your height. But pushing 210 at 10% bf. He dosent dik around and talk. Your there to train. Do what you want wear what you want. If it works keep doing it.
Ive had girls wave me, stop me to "chit chat" about bs topics. One girl.. sitting on a bike.. while i was walking by literally stopped me in mid stride. To bring up about how she has the same mp3 player that was on my arm, and hers was broken. I said "that sucks" and kept walking i had training to do. If she wants to talk she can wait outside the gym for me or in the lobby. Don't stop me when im on my way to the powerrack.
Gym time is your time, not there time. If you get shot down and rejected. Your workout will be assssss. You ll see her all over the gym knowing you failed. You wont be able to have the same confidence you had when you walked in thinking you owned the place. That little bit of confidence helps when you have 200+lbs on your shoulders. Its the difference from getting 14.5 inch biceps... to 20 in cannons....good luck
You should be focusing on your pump, working out. Not wasting your time hanging around. 60-90 min is optimal in the gym for performance. After that your body goes catabolic (beging to eat muscle tissues for fuel).
Yes you are right,you should be FOCUSED,not chained. I will back you up 100% on only being in the gym 60-90 minutes only,I see too many people who are in there for 2-3 hours talking about sports that are too small for the time they spend in there.
Do what you want, a buddy of mine is about your height. But pushing 210 at 10% bf. He dosent dik around and talk. Your there to train. Do what you want wear what you want. If it works keep doing it.
As you said,you should be FOCUSED,doesn't mean you have to lift all the time. By the way I have been busting my a** at the gym for 8 months,without missing a day. I have made plenty of friends while fluff talking with the regulars, and still every work out of mine has increased in weight alot.
Ive had girls wave me, stop me to "chit chat" about bs topics. One girl.. sitting on a bike.. while i was walking by literally stopped me in mid stride. To bring up about how she has the same mp3 player that was on my arm, and hers was broken. I said "that sucks" and kept walking i had training to do. If she wants to talk she can wait outside the gym for me or in the lobby. Don't stop me when im on my way to the powerrack.
What is wrong with taking 2 minutes out of your day to meet her,quick rapport and # close. Its too easy in the gym, "I'm getting back to my work out. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your cool enough to go to lunch with me,whats your number?". Simple and easy.
If you get shot down and rejected. Your workout will be assssss. You ll see her all over the gym knowing you failed.
Thats the thing. You must understand that there is no such thing as "failure" in life,only lessons learned. So what if you get shot down? If you go to the gym routinely it shows your are dedicated,strong and care about your body(it builds you self esteem and confidence as well). Her loss.
Yes you are right,you should be FOCUSED,not chained. I will back you up 100% on only being in the gym 60-90 minutes only,I see too many people who are in there for 2-3 hours talking about sports that are too small for the time they spend in there.
Do what you want, a buddy of mine is about your height. But pushing 210 at 10% bf. He dosent dik around and talk. Your there to train. Do what you want wear what you want. If it works keep doing it.
As you said,you should be FOCUSED,doesn't mean you have to lift all the time. By the way I have been busting my a** at the gym for 8 months,without missing a day. I have made plenty of friends while fluff talking with the regulars, and still every work out of mine has increased in weight alot.
Ive had girls wave me, stop me to "chit chat" about bs topics. One girl.. sitting on a bike.. while i was walking by literally stopped me in mid stride. To bring up about how she has the same mp3 player that was on my arm, and hers was broken. I said "that sucks" and kept walking i had training to do. If she wants to talk she can wait outside the gym for me or in the lobby. Don't stop me when im on my way to the powerrack.
What is wrong with taking 2 minutes out of your day to meet her,quick rapport and # close. Its too easy in the gym, "I'm getting back to my work out. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your cool enough to go to lunch with me,whats your number?". Simple and easy.
If you get shot down and rejected. Your workout will be assssss. You ll see her all over the gym knowing you failed.
Thats the thing. You must understand that there is no such thing as "failure" in life,only lessons learned. So what if you get shot down? If you go to the gym routinely it shows your are dedicated,strong and care about your body(it builds you self esteem and confidence as well). Her loss.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
Im so glad you didnt listen to "Weak Game" as he really does have weak game....AFC attitude advice (Weak game dont offer advice if you dont know what your on about. Looking for excuses and getouts is wrong.)
No Sarging at the gym.....errr.....wrong answer!
Stats show that after pub/bar the gym is the second highest place to find a girl. (in the UK)
You should be focusing on your work out not looking for girls....err....Nah.
You can work out anytime. If a fit girl is in the gym giving you good IOI only the pvssies or the guys who want to look like some greased up muscle chipmunk would say "I would rather work out".
If it doesnt work out she will be around your gym all the time.....err...WRONG AGAIN! Did you even read his post....He changed his time to go and got an (unfamilar crowd). If it doesnt work....You change the time you go. I would personally just still go with her around....why should it phase you. People weight to much on REJECTION and not enough on success. If you go around with the attitude of i might meet her again and it will be awkward IF we broke up.....Your thinking far to much into it! You will never get laid!
Just admit it! Its ok.....we understand. Approaching scares you....stop looking for lame excuses to get yourself out of it.
Back to topic. Blink there is 2 things to learn from this experiance.
1. Sitting around doesnt get girls!
2. Sitting around doesnt get girls!!!
Next time you are in the fear stage of the approach....think of how you felt when you didnt approach at this occation. Keep the thought in your head and savour it......Then remember that rejection sucks...but not trying sucks more!
Sarge On!
No Sarging at the gym.....errr.....wrong answer!
Stats show that after pub/bar the gym is the second highest place to find a girl. (in the UK)
You should be focusing on your work out not looking for girls....err....Nah.
You can work out anytime. If a fit girl is in the gym giving you good IOI only the pvssies or the guys who want to look like some greased up muscle chipmunk would say "I would rather work out".
If it doesnt work out she will be around your gym all the time.....err...WRONG AGAIN! Did you even read his post....He changed his time to go and got an (unfamilar crowd). If it doesnt work....You change the time you go. I would personally just still go with her around....why should it phase you. People weight to much on REJECTION and not enough on success. If you go around with the attitude of i might meet her again and it will be awkward IF we broke up.....Your thinking far to much into it! You will never get laid!
Just admit it! Its ok.....we understand. Approaching scares you....stop looking for lame excuses to get yourself out of it.
Back to topic. Blink there is 2 things to learn from this experiance.
1. Sitting around doesnt get girls!
2. Sitting around doesnt get girls!!!
Next time you are in the fear stage of the approach....think of how you felt when you didnt approach at this occation. Keep the thought in your head and savour it......Then remember that rejection sucks...but not trying sucks more!
Sarge On!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
typical
Master Don Juan
Well me I never ever pickup girls at the gym, maybe its cause I'm there at 5 am in the morning LOL
But nah really I dont see the point of picking up at the gym, not when a few hours later I'll be at uni going from class to class with a tonne of chicks to choose from
But nah really I dont see the point of picking up at the gym, not when a few hours later I'll be at uni going from class to class with a tonne of chicks to choose from
I have a feeling your the guy bugging girls who wear earphones to the gym to "chat" in between your sets. Of doing barbell curls in the SQUAT rack... ugggggTomatoes said:
Excuses? jesus, my point is focus on yourself, this is your one time to shine and what you put into it, it gives back... work your ass off eat, sleep train, lifet heavy. Im not a party guy, i hate bars/clubs there alright everyone once in awhile... but when your in the gym its all business... then go to the club... just stand at the bar, woman approach you... they put themselves near you, they find the stupidest crap to talk about.
Hell without even sarging at the bar the other night with some friends. I went to throw away my beer bottle... 2 girls were standing near the railing.. they were in my way i said "MOVE" the girl literally grabbed my arm. Pointed to the people on the "mechanical bull". Then her other friend asked about my piercings.. She found a reason to talk to me and tried to build rapport. And all i was doing was throwing away a beer bottle. Yet i saw 15 other guys do the same thing and the girls ignored them.
My ex went to the gym and she would get annoyed at guys hitting on her. Guys hit on woman everywhere. Its a fact. But in the gym she has no makeup, she sweats, she smells, shes trying to focus just as much as some of the guys. Shes there for the same reason as everyone else. To self improve. Not get some lame game run on her. Some girls are though and those you can spot a mile away.
Run all the game you want at the gym im just saying your better off working your ass off. Then running game outside. As pook said in one of his articles about skinny guys. You can literally stand there and do nothing once you hit 200+ lbs.
Girls dont see the money you have in the bank, your nice furnished apartment with all your "cool stuff". Your expensive wardrobe, your amazing car. You can have no game, even *gasp* weak_game. Looks go along way. When a girl sees you in the club/bar. Your body is the Ferrari or Lamborghini.
ps i dont have my pro card yet. Still working on amature shows. Maybe in 4 years i ll be pro. If i stop fuking up.
Girls dont see the money you have in the bank, your nice furnished apartment with all your "cool stuff". Your expensive wardrobe, your amazing car. You can have no game, even *gasp* weak_game. Looks go along way. When a girl sees you in the club/bar. Your body is the Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Golden!
ps i dont have my pro card yet. Still working on amature shows. Maybe in 4 years i ll be pro.
Good luck with that!
Golden!
ps i dont have my pro card yet. Still working on amature shows. Maybe in 4 years i ll be pro.
Good luck with that!
Last post before bed. Because i belive in this. I belive this more then anything on this site.
In fact when i graduated highschool i was 145lbs. I was skinny, i only dated chubby girls. The same girls that hate me now. Just for the way i look. I got picked on. I didnt even lose my V till 18... and with an average looking girl.
You can read everything on this site. But the one tried true thing is looks. We are animals. You can memorize canned openers, run some gunwitch, read mystery till your eyes bleed, be the best keyboard jocky, know 200 diff ways to open a girl and close with a number. You can be elite. But a guy with a body x10 yours. All he has to do is walk up to her open with a smile. And she melts. Everything you just ran, all that rapport. Its gone. Peacocking. Flutter your feathers. You don't even have to speak.
My game is crap to an extent. But i have more girls that open on me. When girls run game its hilarious. ((ive had girls in the middle of the club show me there id and ask if im the bouncer. In the middle of the club, after they got in, just to talk))
You can afford to be lazy when you put that much effort into yourself. And its win win... not only do you look good you feel good. But imagine having THE BODY and knowing how to game... you will be a unstopable. Ultimate seducer. Slick tounge but if you look like shi+ naked. You have weak_game.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60002
In fact when i graduated highschool i was 145lbs. I was skinny, i only dated chubby girls. The same girls that hate me now. Just for the way i look. I got picked on. I didnt even lose my V till 18... and with an average looking girl.
You can read everything on this site. But the one tried true thing is looks. We are animals. You can memorize canned openers, run some gunwitch, read mystery till your eyes bleed, be the best keyboard jocky, know 200 diff ways to open a girl and close with a number. You can be elite. But a guy with a body x10 yours. All he has to do is walk up to her open with a smile. And she melts. Everything you just ran, all that rapport. Its gone. Peacocking. Flutter your feathers. You don't even have to speak.
My game is crap to an extent. But i have more girls that open on me. When girls run game its hilarious. ((ive had girls in the middle of the club show me there id and ask if im the bouncer. In the middle of the club, after they got in, just to talk))
You can afford to be lazy when you put that much effort into yourself. And its win win... not only do you look good you feel good. But imagine having THE BODY and knowing how to game... you will be a unstopable. Ultimate seducer. Slick tounge but if you look like shi+ naked. You have weak_game.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=60002
Just wondering,how much do you weight now? How long ago was high school for you?Weak_Game said:
You are right,being built and in shape helps ALOT with women. I notice at the gym I get alot more "lookers" especially from the older crowd. But ask yourself why besides the "appeal" of being built? If you go to the gym routinely it shows your are dedicated/loyal(you can tell by someones build),physically strong and care about your body(it builds you self esteem and confidence as well). THATS SAYS ALOT ABOUT A PERSON!
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Tomatoes
Master Don Juan
Ah...now i know you go there esp to body build then pumping it may work for you.
I need to work more at the gym....i admit that...Truth is....im a lazy bastard. Im skinny so i dont need to lose any weight. However i do need muscle. (i dont pester girls who are on their ipods. They dont want it). But if a girl IOIs me.....Hell i will run some game.
One of my best mates is in the longest relationship i have ever seen thats not yet gone to marridge with an attractive girl. He met her at the gym. I know others who have met girls from gym too...Facts dont lie. Some girls like being picked up at the gym. Esp ones giving IOIs like blinkwatt was talking about.
Sarge On!
I need to work more at the gym....i admit that...Truth is....im a lazy bastard. Im skinny so i dont need to lose any weight. However i do need muscle. (i dont pester girls who are on their ipods. They dont want it). But if a girl IOIs me.....Hell i will run some game.
One of my best mates is in the longest relationship i have ever seen thats not yet gone to marridge with an attractive girl. He met her at the gym. I know others who have met girls from gym too...Facts dont lie. Some girls like being picked up at the gym. Esp ones giving IOIs like blinkwatt was talking about.
Sarge On!