"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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TuPab46

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Here is my story...


I just turned 30 this year. When I was young I was shy and always thought milestones like my 18th birthday, high graduation, college graduation, and the real world would change everything with the ladies but I feel I am still stuck in the same place I have always been.

When I was a kid, I was overweight and shy. Any girl who gave me the time of day I fell for and it always ended the same way...she liked someone else. That was until college when I met a girl who was for me and I believe was the one. I got ****y and treated her like dirt. In a weird way I felt if I got her, I could get any girl. She was that beautiful. I lost her and haven't had a connection like that since. I've read most books by mystery and Strauss, listened to Player Supreme, and listened to my guy friends. I have had sex but it seems like I am constantly still in the friendzone while people in my life have learned the ability to attract females. I am not a bad looking guy by no means. I am no Brad Pitt. I am 5'8 and have an Asian/Spanish look to me. Girls think I am cute.

Why I am here.... I went to a party the other night. I have been friends with these people since we all attended Graduated School together. I am in the business industry...boring job that I won't bore you with the details. Anyway, I have been off my game for a while and these people know me as the guy who always is the stag one. It bothers me. I KNOW I am capable of doing better. One of my coworkers brought this *****y girl, an 8, who was supposed to bring her friend. When asked why she didn't, she responded that the friend was busy and even if she was here, I couldn't handle her. The comment got really under my skin....I got really pissed off. That is when I decided to take the plunge and try this site out. A friend of a friend had raved about this site, especiallly the forum.

I live with my dad. It annoys me. I had an opportunity go out West after college but he wanted me to stay because a few years back we lost my mother. I felt bad and stayed. Even though I do love him, the decision has messed with me. I hate living at home and completely an ashamed of it. It effects my game with women. I don't mind being a good son but I want out...I want my own life. Everyone around me if moving on: some married and others just living out the dream. My 20s were a decade of bad choices, romantically and money wise, and I see that my decisions have bitten me in the ass. I blame myself. Is it too late? I was raised to be nice and I hate it. I hate when people call me nice. It irratates me and gets under my skin. I see it as a sign of weakness. It is all I know though. I need that edge.

As you can see..I need this site...I need people in the same boat as me because I can't talk to people. I don't like showing weakness to people I know. It is just how I am.

hopefully I haven't scared you guys off. hopefully you can all help me become a better man and the Don Juan I know I can become.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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oscarxp25

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Damn...you are in bad shape...this site is good and the people here can be trusted. I have found success here and even became friends with someone from here. This is your rock bottom. Don't worry...listen to us and read the articles and everything will be better,
 

\\mattyice//

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oscarxp25 said:
Damn...you are in bad shape...this site is good and the people here can be trusted. I have found success here and even became friends with someone from here. This is your rock bottom. Don't worry...listen to us and read the articles and everything will be better,
Welcome to the site man, definitely agree with Oscar lots of good stuff here, read the bible and go through a lot of the articles, I have been following this site for almost 3 years when I went through a low period in my life. I just recently started posted and it definitely can help make some positive improvements.
 

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Welcome Sir. You have came to the right place. You will find all kinds of people here either currently in similar\same boats as you, or people like myself who once was and am no longer.

That comment the b|tch gave you about not being able to handle her friend is typical to hear from people who consider you a beta man. I used to hear that kind of cr@p all the time, but not anymore. Stick around here and you will learn how to respond to comments like that without even thinking about it.

Nothing wrong with living with your dad if it's temporary like if you had a recent job loss, divorce where you got raked under the coals, etc. But IMO getting out on your own should be your top priority right now over anything else.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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blind_one

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Wise decision. You have made the first step. More will follow as you stay on the correct path.

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