"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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was I in denial all these years? i just began to realize. IM insecure. inspired by that other thread, about a guy who cant maintain a relationship because hes too paranoid. Im also in the simliar boat but with more depth. Im not interested in a relationship because i dont trust no hoe, im sorry. i mean i dont trust any girl, in my books they all degrade themselves to a lower status just to achieve attention. im curious on whos noticing me. I'll be driving and i'll look at mostly every driver to see if they;'re looking at me then I'll immediately wonder what they are wondering.
after all these years, i figured i was confident, brave, ambitionous.
Im rarely in denial, which is a good thing because I can admit to my own mistakes. and I Do believe i am insecure. I dont want to be and im willing to improve because i know the outcome can be tremendous and help me down the road.

Im always dressing good, I always get questions from people "why are you dress soo good? whats today?" "i dress like this everyday man"
I love myself, Im always looking in the mirror admiring my perfect teeth, smile and my face. so im conceited also, in a way. not ****y, i dont go bragging how cute or sexy i look, i just love myself, there isnt any body Id rather be than myself.

im a Pisces. Im known to be insecure.

PS: i dunno if im insecure, im more concern on what people think about me, rather than not know the answer in a situation. I can lead a pack when needed. no doubt in that.
Im just tooo damn curious thats my main problem.
I'll act a differently around a girl, put on a act, I'll pull out my fancy cellphone, etc.
i'll smile more, i'll ttalk more to be the center of attention in a class

so i guess there is the first step, to admit it
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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am I insecure?
 

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Yes,extremely and narcissistic too.
 

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I'm in the same boat my man. I don't know if *you're* insecure but I probably am....I'm also a narcissist, when i've had the time, I've spent hours grooming myself on the weekends.

I dunno if this reflects being insecure, but you could have an ego. Check out remotecontrol's ego VS confidence.....the thread is a good way to determine if its just an ego that you've got, faking confidence.

Unfortunate it doesn't tell you how to get rid of your ego and gain confidence :(
 

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Save yourself from the endless teenage introspective kick, which never resolves anything and ends in a rut, by playing sports or doing some kind of positive action. "Get beyond yourself" so to speak.

You are unformed, it may be hard to hear, but you are not really anybody yet. You still need a few years to interact with the world and see how it changes you. If you try and analyze now, you will confuse yourself because you are malleable, flexible, and can find endless possibilities (superficially) within yourself. Usually guys start to get a sense of who they are after they move away from home, get some work/school experience and are in their early-to-mid-twenties. After that, you can look inside yourself and find something besides just a bunch of question marks.

By the way, I'm glad to see you are less trusting of hos now and arent in a relationship. Listening to you go on and on about your girlfriend was really pathetic, it made me want to virtually smack you. Congratulations on freeing yourself, or at any rate achieving freedom.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I don't think you're insecure.

I think you are maybe fearful and mistrusting but that is common of a lot of young people these days.

With growth and continued working on yourself comes maturity.

I think now you are fearful and mistrusting based on your experiences and the bad things you have seen from people.

Women in particular.

What you have to do if you want a real relationship with a chick is to really listen to what she says about how she has treated other guys she's been with and read between the lines if you have to in order to find the truth. She'll tell you exactly what kind of person she is within the first few minutes or hours of talking with her as what she says about how she's treated other men will show exactly how she will treat you. Also pay attention to anything she says about how her parents raised her. If it involved lots of love and no abandonment issues or huge regrets, falling outs or fights then you may be dealing with a quality girl that deserves a chance.

The way to defeat your fear is to give a girl who exhibits a good character from what I've just said a chance and observe her behaviour towards you over time.

Her continued actions towards you being positive over a long period of time is a good sign that she will be good for you and that you can begin to open up your heart a bit more and trust her to be a good girlfriend to you.

That doesn't mean degenerate into an AFC when she proves trustworthy it simply means you can begin to let your fears go.

Remember though that even the most perfect situation can come crumbling down around you and remember also that love and many things in life are a risk.

Sometimes if you don't take that risk you lose everything you've ever wanted and sometimes if you do take the risk the same thing happens and you also lose everything you've ever wanted but hey brother if you take a huge risk and it turns out good for you in the long run then it just proves taking some risks can be more beneficial then never taking one at all.
 

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I don't think you're insecure.

I think you are maybe fearful and mistrusting but that is common of a lot of young people these days.

With growth and continued working on yourself comes maturity.

I think now you are fearful and mistrusting based on your experiences and the bad things you have seen from people.

Women in particular.

What you have to do if you want a real relationship with a chick is to really listen to what she says about how she has treated other guys she's been with and read between the lines if you have to in order to find the truth. She'll tell you exactly what kind of person she is within the first few minutes or hours of talking with her as what she says about how she's treated other men will show exactly how she will treat you. Also pay attention to anything she says about how her parents raised her. If it involved lots of love and no abandonment issues or huge regrets, falling outs or fights then you may be dealing with a quality girl that deserves a chance.

The way to defeat your fear is to give a girl who exhibits a good character from what I've just said a chance and observe her behaviour towards you over time.

Her continued actions towards you being positive over a long period of time is a good sign that she will be good for you and that you can begin to open up your heart a bit more and trust her to be a good girlfriend to you.

That doesn't mean degenerate into an AFC when she proves trustworthy it simply means you can begin to let your fears go.

Remember though that even the most perfect situation can come crumbling down around you and remember also that love and many things in life are a risk.

Sometimes if you don't take that risk you lose everything you've ever wanted and sometimes if you do take the risk the same thing happens and you also lose everything you've ever wanted but hey brother if you take a huge risk and it turns out good for you in the long run then it just proves taking some risks can be more beneficial then never taking one at all.
extacly! thats what i figured out

and i did that already, last month i was 'kinda' dating this girl, just to see if im actually fearful for another relationship. to see if im capable to get into another relationship without baggage. but her flaws showed very clear, she was a hoe, straight up hoe. wore her g string half an inch above her jeans.
so i just tried to hit it then quit it. but i got caught up in a way so i had to next her.

so i am capable of gettin into a relationship but im ALWAYS on the look out ALWAYS hungry for any clues to see if shes wasting my time. i can pick them up soo easily based on my past experiences, as you may know.

i am confident. im not afraid to say whats on my mind.
i can get into anohter relationship and start fresh, im 'free' as the above poster said.

i Love myself, but im not ****y, but i DO know im good looking, above average, based on the compliments i've been getting.

im just too curious on what people think of me. thats all. i dont care if people dont like me, i learned not to let it phaze me but im just curious to find out if they like me, so i can hit them up lol

other than that i dont find any other insecure signs from me
 

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I rarely say this, but you should be a lot easier on yourself man. You're 17 years old. Not everyone is a natural DJ out of the womb. If you want some inspiration, i felt the same way you do during my high school years. I always dressed well, kept in shape, but I wasn't always confident about myself on the whole. I really didn't lay many girls and I KNEW I was underachieving.

5 years later, I feel like I'm a new man. I not only have options (women) on the table all the time, but I can now say I'm the man I always wanted to be. And this isn't to brag, this is to inspire YOU. You go through A LOT of change between your high school and college years. You'd be surprised how much you can change in 6 months.

Just by the way you carry yourself on the boards, I know you're an underachiever with a lot of potential. Just keep at it.. try new things everyday, talk to new women as much as possible and before you know it things will start to snowball and you'll almost laugh at the hardships you put up with at your age.

Trust me, it will come. Just keep improving yourself.
 

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I rarely say this, but you should be a lot easier on yourself man. You're 17 years old. Not everyone is a natural DJ out of the womb. If you want some inspiration, i felt the same way you do during my high school years. I always dressed well, kept in shape, but I wasn't always confident about myself on the whole. I really didn't lay many girls and I KNEW I was underachieving.
its not the confident part which im worried about, i am confident and im Always achieving something, i dont know where im going but im always on a mission, may it be school(got decent grades) my ride which i worked my ass off(lowrider with hydraulics) or hittin the gym hard mon-friday-(im built) thats one of the reason i love myself, i can walk into public with **** on my face and not just laugh it off when i find out
5 years later, I feel like I'm a new man. I not only have options (women) on the table all the time, but I can now say I'm the man I always wanted to be. And this isn't to brag, this is to inspire YOU. You go through A LOT of change between your high school and college years. You'd be surprised how much you can change in 6 months.
oh i know man, time is valuable. I've learned that the hard way. so I do believe i will change for the better. Im always improving.

Just by the way you carry yourself on the boards, I know you're an underachiever with a lot of potential. Just keep at it.. try new things everyday, talk to new women as much as possible and before you know it things will start to snowball and you'll almost laugh at the hardships you put up with at your age.

Trust me, it will come. Just keep improving yourself

yehh you're right, i got lots to learn as i am young but im ahead by others.
im always trying new things, im always up for a challenge. I grab whats mine.
I been though soo much hardship, my dads an alocoholic, my moms clingy as ****, i had a messed up childhood, social workers took me away. .etc.. but whatver thats the passed. i dont let it get to me.


maybe im over reacting. but why do i feel the need to act a certain way around others? why must i need to act a lil tougher or talk more around girls, when im in a group with other guys. and try to get their attention? but i come off as annoying?
why is it that when im driving, i'll crank the music a lil louder so i make sure people hear me comming down. SH1t like that tickes me off. I dont want to become like that. I force myself to turn off the radio when im near people.

I've changed alot through out life. two years ago, i wasnt near the person i am. i was the guy who always let people walk over him guy who had no style whats so ever. Guy who was dumb. the guy who always lie and was a nobody. then i changed. i got my **** together, now i got many people look up to me(not braggin) from lower grades and other people who view me with envy. hottest car in the school cuz i worked hard for it. im fit cuz i worked hard at my body. Im smart because I listen and learn.

i wouldnt say im insecure, but theres some things I do that i hate.
 

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Technical1 said:
By the way, I'm glad to see you are less trusting of hos now and arent in a relationship. Listening to you go on and on about your girlfriend was really pathetic, it made me want to virtually smack you. Congratulations on freeing yourself, or at any rate achieving freedom.
which gf? i havnt talked about a ex since 07, you signed up in 08 :S
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I don't think you're insecure, I think you're just thinking about it too much. Every emotion we have has some sort of evolutionary function, and if you try to rationalize it away you'll just drive yourself crazy.
 

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I don't think you're insecure, I think you're just thinking about it too much. Every emotion we have has some sort of evolutionary function, and if you try to rationalize it away you'll just drive yourself crazy.
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i need to chill bad
 

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i need to chill bad

You just need to relax. 17 is nothing. Have fun. If you are already getting hot girls then you are doing pretty good. By the way, most every 17 year old is very insecure even if he/she acts like the most confident person ever on the outside.
 

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Im not interested in a relationship because i dont trust no ho

Don't trust her to what? Stay faithful? If that's it, just have a non-exclusive relationship.
 

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Im not interested in a relationship because i dont trust no ho

Don't trust her to what? Stay faithful? If that's it, just have a non-exclusive relationship.
what i meant was, i have trust issues, i cant seem to trust any girl to have a relationship with them, unless she has some very good traits to offer me. but how common is that? my standards will remain high. im also not interested in a relationship because i got more important **** to deal with, school/family/gym than to be wondering where she is at 2am know what i mean?

why get into a non exclusive relationship when i can just **** her and move on? without have to worry about catching emotions.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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why get into a non exclusive relationship when i can just **** her and move on?

ok, we are on the same page. But you can keep fvcking a girl without committing to anything.
 

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why get into a non exclusive relationship when i can just **** her and move on?

ok, we are on the same page. But you can keep fvcking a girl without committing to anything.
im only 17 bro, i still got uni to go to, i still need to learn to set my own road straight without distracting myself, Im only scratching the surface. I'd perfer a relationship over anything but i dont believe such thing at such a young age.

I'm commited to many other things and i know im capabilities in a relationship and what i got to offer to a girl.
 
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