"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'm having trouble with final moves

sam21

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Hey, I can tell this girl is on me.. but.. I don't know what to do exactly now.

We chatted 2 hours ago and she complimented me a lot and she went like hahaha on everything I said.

If I go for her.. by taking her out.. it may seem too obvious and it may lower her attraction level

the question is.. How do I make the final moves.. without lowering her attraction level?.. I want it to keep getting higher and higher! and I can do that for sure by playing it cool and a little distant.. but I know I can't be that way forever..

IMPORTANT: It's a situation in which we two know we like each other, but we two are playing... I think she wants to close the deal soon, but it may be a trap. That's why I feel like keeping it cool and distant. But if it's not a trap.. I must go in and cut the distant sh1t.

do you dig the situation?

See you soon. Tnx.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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nishbuk

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If I go for her.. by taking her out.. it may seem too obvious and it may lower her attraction level
What?

Dude, at some point, you have to make a move. If you're not going to ask her out (which isn't necessarily the best thing to do), then kino escalate with her. (IMHO is more effective than using any kind of verbiage that indicates your interest).

They call it "making a move" because it doesn't have to involve words of any kind! It only has to involve movements!

If there's one thing I learned, it's that attraction is something that girls don't logically process. It just "happens" to them. And what's more, girls LIKE it this way. They like that attraction "just happens". Even if they could know "why" they feel attraction, I'll bet that the majority wouldn't want to know "why"! It's much more fun, romantic, and spontaneous, if they think it's something that was "just right", and didn't need to be contrived, or concieved in any way.
The down side of "asking a girl out" is that you are 'telling her' that you are attracted to her, thereby activating her logical brain. Logic = NO FUN for girls!
If you simply ACT as if she is attracted to you, and you are attracted to her, the physicality level goes up, and you make it seem like the physical things you are doing (holding hands, rubbing her back, touching her shoulder, kissing, ****ing, etc...) JUST HAPPENED magically! Emotional logic = MUCH MORE FUN for girls!

Now, here's the thing though. If you haven't been escalating physically since day 1, then you will have to ask her out eventually. If you don't ask her out, then you've lost all chances.

Think of it this way:

1) Kino escalating without using verbiage to indicate interest = BEST.

2) Asking girl out somewhere just the two of you, not indicating blatantly that it's a date, but letting the suspicision be there! And then escalating physically = STILL GOOD!

3) Asking a girl out making it very very clear it's a date BEFORE any physical escalation of any sorts = VERY AKWARD, but still not BAD! These things can turn out great if you can escalate!

4) Not asking at all, being afraid that her interest level will go down? Well...I think you know where this one falls = BAFC.

Capish?

Make a move. Pick either number 1, 2, or 3, and do it.
You'll have to calibrate which one to your particular situation, as noone knows the intricacies of your interaction better than you.

But for godsakes, plz don't get caught doing number 4 because you are scared that her interest level will drop. That's just not being fair to yourself! Think of all the pleasure you can STAND with that girl!
 
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