"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"I'm gonna go home and finger myself"

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How the hell should I respond to crap like this.

I spend an entire night getting this girl worked up (I was even getting her lesbian friend wet), and I end up hearing this!

I just said "Have fun with your hand. I've got a phone call to make.", and left.

I was too trashed to think anything better up.

Any suggestions on how to keep the ball rolling on this, because she loves to tease me with these stupid lines (I almost banged her a couple of times, but she always calls "awkward", as we've been friends for years, and goes home), and I know I'll hear something like this in the future.

Such as:
"You shouldn't have given me my belt so easily. You might have gotten something in return."
"I'm sexually frustrated. I'm gonna go home know. I have a headache, got me?"
"I have off tomorrow. Too bad I have to get up early anyway."
"I'm gonna make you beg for it" (I beg for nothing!)
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Can you say c0ck-tease / attention wh0re?

All you gotta do is pretend that you don't want her and that you can do better. Eventually she'll beg for it. E-Z.
I insulted a girl like this before, saying i would never bang a girl below a C cup. Heheh... what a lie, i nailed her next week when she got drunk.


This girl has serious problems BTW, and i wouldn't consider her LTR material.
 

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More like:

"I know you're gonna be jerking off thinking about me... how pathetic!"


"I'm gonna make you beg for it"
What a sadistic b1tch. Get her drunk and horny, then fyck her and move on.
 

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Heh, that's what the phone call was phone call was for.

Anyway, I guess I've been bewitched or something. I can't rest until I stick her.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How about simply

'OK, well I'm going home to jack off. See you later'

This is mildly funny and could even keep the convo flowing, to a point where she thinks (hmm.. him jacking off... me fingering... maybe we should get to SEX!)

;)

I mean she can hardly laugh at you for saying that when she has said practically the same thing?!?
 

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She's F*cking with You

She will continue to become more brazen with these statements to see what she can get away with. As long as you keep hanging out with her, this is the kind of sh1t you will hear. You will never have sex with this girl.
 

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What makes this so hard, is that we have such a good chemistry together, besides the no sex thing.

She's always wanting to be around me, always complimenting me, kissed me first, keeps telling me that she thinks of me whenever she listens to this one CD I had on when we almost fvcked, ect.

People automatically assume that we're together. My friends refer to her as my girlfriend. Her friends love me. This one guy even thought we lived together, and wouldn't believe me when I told him that we didn't. It's like everyone sees this aura, or something, but she won't accept it for what it is.

Maybe I come across too strongly as "relationship guy", and she's afraid of being in a relationship right now, so she withold's the thing that would make that official.

I think I'll amp things up next time I see her, and if nothing happens, I won't call her until right before this house party I'm having in a few weeks.

Alcohol, huge house, tons of people to get lost among, my friend spinning some chill-out records, a bunch of South American girls who're intrigued by me to make her jealous... if that doesn't do it, I go back to ignoring her completely.

Damned tunnel vision.
 

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Oh, and that night, shortly before I left, I could have sworn she wispered "kiss me." as I passed her in the dining room. Might have been "missed me?". I dunno.

I'd have done it anyway, but I had my labret pierced a few weeks ago, and I'm not positive it's healed well enough yet.
 

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"Don't be modest, y'know you're going to use both fists and a foot!" :p
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by evoke
What makes this so hard, is that we have such a good chemistry together, besides the no sex thing.

She's always wanting to be around me, always complimenting me, kissed me first, keeps telling me that she thinks of me whenever she listens to this one CD I had on when we almost fvcked, ect.

People automatically assume that we're together. My friends refer to her as my girlfriend. Her friends love me. This one guy even thought we lived together, and wouldn't believe me when I told him that we didn't. It's like everyone sees this aura, or something, but she won't accept it for what it is.

Maybe I come across too strongly as "relationship guy", and she's afraid of being in a relationship right now, so she withold's the thing that would make that official.

I think I'll amp things up next time I see her, and if nothing happens, I won't call her until right before this house party I'm having in a few weeks.

Alcohol, huge house, tons of people to get lost among, my friend spinning some chill-out records, a bunch of South American girls who're intrigued by me to make her jealous... if that doesn't do it, I go back to ignoring her completely.

Damned tunnel vision.
i know EXACTLY what you are going through. check it http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77886

every time i go to work people are saying something about her and i. asking when we are going to get together... etc. we have GREAT chemistry and she is just a fun person to be around. i just can't close the deal
 

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Frustrating, isn't it? I know the best thing would be to simply move on, and I've tried, but it's hard to let go sometimes.

Like I said, I almost got the damn deal done with her a few times before (and it's only when I've gotten her to come out without one of her friends, otherwise I'll end up with just a hug or kiss or a peep show at the end of the night), but she just can't seem to go with it, without thinking too hard about things.

I wish I had thought up the fists and foot comment. Haha!

One guy there said something like "That's no fair! This guy put all the work into getting you hot, and you won't even give him a piece?. That's just wrong!."

She just looked at the ground.
 

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There's a time to just tell a girl to shut the fvck up.

Personally I think you missed an opening, but she could just be an attention *****.
 

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Meh.

I'm sure nobody cares, but this one's definately being put on the back, back burner. I'd drop it completely like, but I'd still like to give her a chance at me. She's gonna have to do all the work though, and if I find something serious in the meantime, obviously forget it.

I hung out with her and her friend at the pub last night, and it was like Chinese water torture. For a good hour and a half I sat there, not even pretending to give a sh!t about what they were saying as I watched the NBA drafts on TV, and I don't even watch basketball.

"Blah blah, I need to lose weight."
"I put makeup on tonight, and for what?"
"I don't like that girl"
"I don't like this girl"
"This place is boring" (Then why the fvck to you keep going there? Is it because you know I'll be there, dumbass?)
"I hate you. How can you always be so positive?"

Nag nag nag! I've never been happier to see a girl go away. Maybe it was PMS. Who knows.

She was trying so hard to bring me down to her state, and it just wasn't gonna happen.

Then I ran into one of her ex's, who I've been friends with for years. He told me that a couple months ago he had a talk with her about how shallow she is, and how she should find somebody who's not a tossbag like all the guys she's usually with. He used me as an example, since he thought we'd be a good match. Hmm.

I guess she'd rather get fvcked by fake-badboy douchebags, and add all their baggage and immaturity to her life, than just admit that I'm better than all of them. It's like she thinks I'm too good for her. Fvck it! I'm never going to lower myself for ass.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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