I'm gonna go crazy

[MacAvoy]

I don't know if I can take it anymore. I just might start killing branch swing monkeys. I can't believe how much this sh1t happens and how they think its acceptable. First I can't believe how much I've seen it happen to me, but then I come on here and I see not one or two but 10 threads a day about my girl is doing this.

They honestly think its acceptable. Its driving me bonkers. How do you put a stop to it? I'm meeting up with an ex in 2 days, and I'm gonna give her the 3rd degree why women do it, she's not gonna like it,but I'm gonna have her explain it to me, even though I already know why, I just wanna hear the BS from the horses mouth cuz I know she's not gonna tell me the truth.

 

[joekerr31]

mac, you're having threesomes and stuff, im a little confused why branch swinging bothers you.

as for asking your ex about it, i would avoid doing so.

women love seeing us guys in agony over why they behave as they do. i never give them the satisfaction.

moreover, you won't get the truth. what you'll get is some chic version of the truth, which is usually total rationalizations - ie. well if men treated us like the princesses we are then we wouldn't have to branch swing.

 

[MacAvoy]

mac, you're having threesomes and stuff, im a little confused why branch swinging bothers you.

Are you saying branch swinging is acceptable?

I'll tell you why it bothers me ... Chasing Amy Syndrome. Whats good for the goose is NOT good for the gander. I don't care what I do, any women I'm with, believes I'm an angel and I expect them to reciprocate or at least try to make me think their reciprocating. If they are that dumb to let me catch them, then I don't want them.

Don't get me wrong, I love wh0res and sluts but when I'm supposedly monogamous with a women, I don't want her to be looking for her next branch to leetch onto.

ps I can't believe how much this happens again and again, every single thread I read almost at some point brings up reference to branch swinging

 

[aliasguy]

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I'll say it again... you can't expect women to be other than what they ARE.

Accept. Open your eyes.

(This doesn't mean that branch swinging, and a lot of other stuff, doesn't suck, though.)
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[Francisco d'Anconia]

If monogamy is so important to you, why not pursue women who feel the same. You get into trouble when you're playing a game and somewhere in the middle you change the rules. Don't expect the other person to play along. It's possible but it could go either way depending on her goal when she started playing the game.

 

[cordoncordon]

Trust me, women can sense you you are being "less than faithful". Or at least not being 100% committed. That would be my guess as to why you are running across so many of these women.

They know what you are up to.

 

[Phyzzle]

This is the weirdest rant ever.

You are dying to know why women date multiple people. Meanwhile, you are dating multiple people.

Therefore, I'm going to go the Francisco route and answer your question - with a question.

"Why do YOU date multiple people?"

Type the answer in this thread. Read the answer, and then you'll know why women do it.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...Therefore, I'm going to go the Francisco route and answer your question - with a question. ..

Have you been dipping into my meds???!!! :woo:

 

[STR8UP]

I'll say it again... you can't expect women to be other than what they ARE.

Yep, don't put your hand in the viper pit if you aren't prepared to get bitten.

 

[Interceptor]

WOW, dude.
Have you ever thought she was branch swinging because you're NOT cutting it???
Pretty easy to blame the other person, if you ask me..........

 

[aliasguy]

Yep, don't put your hand in the viper pit if you aren't prepared to get bitten.

Whoa, STR8UP....

Vipers? Really?

I do NOT see women as vipers.

They are lovely creatures, able to give us a myriad of sensual delights, and provide us with interesting, even PERPLEXING conundrums to attempt to solve. And, when we inevitably fail at the solutions, they are more than happy to torment us for that sin.


They are more like bears. Remember that guy who lived in "peace and harmony" with a bunch of bears? They ultimately ATE him.



Really though, I kid. Women are not vipers, or bears, or sirens, or medusas, or ANYTHING other than WOMEN. With their own tricks and deceits. (We, as men, have our own, too.) We as men are obliged to open our eyes, and see the truth, and WORK WITH WHAT IS THERE.... WOMEN. Flawed, confusing, inconsistent, flaky, exasperating.... but, really, simply WOMEN.

We as men are blessed with REASON, and if we USE it, and ACCEPT and UNDERSTAND the nature of women, we can , if not "prevail," at least get through it all unscathed. Maybe.

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[reset]

I agree aliasguy.

They've always been this way, they will always be this way, it's your job to accept that and learn to ride the wave. It's nature. It's not a plot out to get you, it's the way things not only ARE, but the way things are SUPPOSED TO BE.

I had a hard time accepting that. I'm still learning quite a bit, but it makes no more sense to get mad at a woman for being a woman than it is to get mad at the sky for causing rain.

 

[RedPill]

MacAvoy,

This challenge of yours has little to do with society's double standard for women, the degradation of integrity among the female species, the Matrix, etc. No sir, this has everything to do with YOU.

Between all the hype and hyperbole in your rant, we're not getting the full story. You know it, we know it, and it's unrealistic of you to think that your fellow evolving men on this forum are going to believe for an instant that you are cursed and the deck is unjustly stacked against you.

In a strange way, this thread kind of makes me empathize with the women you surround yourself with, because I'll bet you expect that same ridiculous naiveté from them that you do from this forum. Do you really expect women to ignore their own conditions and options in their sexual selections simply to suit your idealized reality?

I don't care what I do, any women I'm with, believes I'm an angel and I expect them to reciprocate or at least try to make me think their reciprocating.

Apparently you do. But let me ask you this. . .

Could it possible, Mac, that the flakes you tap since they're easy lays that won't judge your actions might be the same chicks who swing branches at the slightest breeze?

If they are that dumb to let me catch them, then I don't want them.

So you want 'em dumb enough to buy into your hypocritical rules of engagement, but not dumb enough to act with zero regard when that dam of hypocrisy bursts all over your fantasy?

Whats good for the goose is NOT good for the gander.

Perhaps these women don't respect your social intelligence enough to even feel that you're entitled to a clean break. Can you really blame them? Because certainly, you don't respect OURS.

A little more George Clooney and a little less George Costanza might do wonders for your game.

Of course this is assuming that:

You PLAY to WIN the GAME!

All ball-busting aside. . .

Take some, if not all the responsibility for what you're seeking because it's EXACTLY what you're attracting. You're seeking ridiculous ideals, and you're attracting ridiculous outcomes.

(We love ya bro. Go get your sh1t together.)

 

[Last Man Standing]

Haha, I told you - they are not monkeys kid - they're hors!! You are just the next pimp in line!!! Don't get emotional nor trust that which is untrustworthy nor worthy of affection!!

 

[STR8UP]

Whoa, STR8UP....

Vipers? Really?

I do NOT see women as vipers.

Just an analogy. Didn't mean it in a literal sense.

They are lovely creatures, able to give us a myriad of sensual delights, and provide us with interesting, even PERPLEXING conundrums to attempt to solve. And, when we inevitably fail at the solutions, they are more than happy to torment us for that sin.

Ahhh.... the torment!

We as men are obliged to open our eyes, and see the truth, and WORK WITH WHAT IS THERE.... WOMEN. Flawed, confusing, inconsistent, flaky, exasperating.... but, really, simply WOMEN.

That's why i say the key to a happy, healthy, and successful relationship is a "clued up" man who ACTS like a man.

 

[STR8UP]

Haha, I told you - they are not monkeys kid - they're hors!! You are just the next pimp in line!!! Don't get emotional nor trust that which is untrustworthy nor worthy of affection!!

Because if is she is a virgin she is immune to becoming a hor!!!! Only marry a virgin!!!

 

[ketostix]

I got to kind of side with Macavoy here. Take him out of the equation. Women do branch swing too much and lack loyality independent of who the man she's with is. I think some of you guys got it backwards men have always wanted to run around, and in the past women would tolerate it and be faithful in a relationship. As much as I hate to say it LMS has it about right these women are hors. I don't fault them for being hors or for their sexuality but how they behave without regard to a man's feelings or remorse and hypocritically play off as if they're doing nothing wrong and are "good" girls.

While I believe women have always been opportunistics and manipulative, how women behave now is more of a product of societal conditions than women just being how they always were. if men collectively had the entitlements, double standards and all the advantages now, I'm sure most men would be behaving a lot more in their selfish own interest than they do now.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Because if is she is a virgin she is immune to becoming a hor!!!! Only marry a virgin!!!

Of all your 4,000 posts, this is the only sensible one!!

 

[aliasguy]

Because if is she is a virgin she is immune to becoming a hor!!!! Only marry a virgin!!!

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HAHAHA!! WTG, STR8UP!!!!!!


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PS..... I get you re: the analogy.
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[Rollo Tomassi]

I'm meeting up with an ex in 2 days, and I'm gonna give her the 3rd degree why women do it, she's not gonna like it,but I'm gonna have her explain it to me, even though I already know why, I just wanna hear the BS from the horses mouth cuz I know she's not gonna tell me the truth.

You will only get what you've gotten if you keep doing what you have done.

By doing this you only validate and reinforce the branch swingers you say you despise. Why would you waste your time reconfirming what you already know? What more do you expect to learn? Nothing. You know the answer before you ask the question. You know from your time here that behavior is the only reliable gauge for a woman's motivations - what should make this time any different?

I'll tell you why you're considering this; you're not just going to meet up with an ex. Be honest MAC, this is THE ex - as in the one you moved away for, the one who had you in another room to play the part of roomate for her parents, etc. You can shake your fist at "branch swingers" all day long, but in meeting up with her to supposedly ask her for answers you already know, you're just a branch swinger yourself. The difference is you're just swinging back to an old branch you've been on before.