"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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I'm going to start approaching again and have a few questions.

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Originally posted by Viper
Your getting tired of seeing a new post every week, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, no one's asking you to post, your choice to complain is of your own free will, no one's forcing you.
If you get tired of my topics, IGNORE THEM, DON'T POST IN THEM, because you know what? I'm tired of hearing you complain about it.
I have done something about it. I've gotten 3 or 4 locked already.

Viper, I'm not going to remain decent with you very long. Stop acting like an idiot and quit pretending you want to fix your life. It's hard to fix something at heart you honestly believe isn't broken.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Somethings you say, you just can't make sound good. But nontheless, voice tone counts.:cool:
 

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Originally posted by LikRetsam
I have done something about it. I've gotten 3 or 4 locked already.

Viper, I'm not going to remain decent with you very long. Stop acting like an idiot and quit pretending you want to fix your life. It's hard to fix something at heart you honestly believe isn't broken.
Get out of my ****ing topic already.
I'm tired of hearing you, unless you want to say something relavent GET OUT, because you know what, you can post but I'm not going to listen to you, because I'm tired of your *****ing, complaining and sheer ignorance and hypocracy. So you can reply to this dude, but I'm done listening to you, post something relavent to the topic though and I just might listen to your ass and you've gotten my topics locked? Hah, that's bull****. Oh yeah, complain to the moderators, so I can be banned for YOUR comments. The only way anything is going to get fixed, if you ignore this topic and stop SPAMMING IT(Does anything you post have to do with the topic? No, you're spamming).
 

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Damn, this kid sure is blind

It's hard to fix something at heart you honestly believe isn't broken.
I completely agree.

Come on Viper. Stop lying to yourself.
Before you can start to improve YOU HAVE TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS PART OF YOUR LIFE.
You keep searching for the instant fix for everything with every thread you open. They are almost all about the outer game.
What I recommend is: Get the E-book Attraction Isn't a Choice by David Deangelo.
Buy it or rip it somewhere (*cough* limewire *cough*). Keep reading it and try to relate it to your experiences in your life untill you fully understand what's going on.

Note: You are going to feel down again sometime, just make sure you have fun when you go out.
 

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Originally posted by Holland
Damn, this kid sure is blind



I completely agree.

Come on Viper. Stop lying to yourself.
Before you can start to improve YOU HAVE TO ADMIT TO YOURSELF THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS PART OF YOUR LIFE.
You keep searching for the instant fix for everything with every thread you open. They are almost all about the outer game.
What I recommend is: Get the E-book Attraction Isn't a Choice by David Deangelo.
Buy it or rip it somewhere (*cough* limewire *cough*). Keep reading it and try to relate it to your experiences in your life untill you fully understand what's going on.

Note: You are going to feel down again sometime, just make sure you have fun when you go out.
God damn it, when did I say I DIDN'T YOUR ASKING ME TO ADMIT SOMETHING I DIDN'T DENY and I'm not ****ing looking for an instant fix. I KNOW THAT THERE IS NO MAGICAL ****ING TOPIC THAT WILL MAKE ME A BETTER CONVERSATION AND NO MAGICAL TOPIC THAT WILL MAKE ME MORE INTERESTING, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A QUICK FIX, MR. I THINK I KNOW EVERYTHING. I'm not going to admit it, because it's not true, I'm looking for tips that I can use to EVENTUALLY get better at conversation and tips I can use to improve attraction OVER TIME, *******. So just shutup, because you do not know ****, if you want to keep posting your stupid presumations, do it, I don't care because I know its not true. Let's be realistic here, I know there is no quick fix, so WHY WOULD I BE LOOKING FOR ONE, HUH, MR. SMARTASS? Exactly, I'm not looking for a quick -mother****ing- fix, I'm looking for tips that will help me improve over time.
Yes, I do get pissed off easily, but deal with it.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by Viper
God damn it, when did I say I DIDN'T YOUR ASKING ME TO ADMIT SOMETHING I DIDN'T DENY and I'm not ****ing looking for an instant fix. I KNOW THAT THERE IS NO MAGICAL ****ING TOPIC THAT WILL MAKE ME A BETTER CONVERSATION AND NO MAGICAL TOPIC THAT WILL MAKE ME MORE INTERESTING, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A QUICK FIX, MR. I THINK I KNOW EVERYTHING. I'm not going to admit it, because it's not true, I'm looking for tips that I can use to EVENTUALLY get better at conversation and tips I can use to improve attraction OVER TIME, *******. So just shutup, because you do not know ****, if you want to keep posting your stupid presumations, do it, I don't care because I know its not true. Let's be realistic here, I know there is no quick fix, so WHY WOULD I BE LOOKING FOR ONE, HUH, MR. SMARTASS? Exactly, I'm not looking for a quick -mother****ing- fix, I'm looking for tips that will help me improve over time.
Yes, I do get pissed off easily, but deal with it.
viper im not b1tching at u so dont write a reply post to what i say ok : he gave pretty good advice on how to make a steady change we all have been giving you advice and you keep replying that we dont know shyt and insulting peopleto not post even when they are giving you good advice. so please if u want people to keep giving you advice to help you out (we do want to help) dont turn around and insult enyone who doesnt give the advice you dont like.

on to a more on thread topic: u tend to always post a convo you had with a girl, so hers what i do mentaly that i suddjest you try mentaly or on paper. write out your conversation. read it and think about how you said everything(were you happy? mubbling? sounding desperate? whatever) . remeber how she said what she said. then go over the convos and think of ways how you could have said what u said more succesfully. use all u have learned and put it into the "new" convo now reherse mentaly HOW not what you would be saying. then nexxt day implicate the teqniecs u used in that imaginary convos.( do what few people have done for you with the post were they alterd your convo to be better, for your self)
 

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Originally posted by Viper
Get out of my ****ing topic already.
I'm tired of hearing you, unless you want to say something relavent GET OUT, because you know what, you can post but I'm not going to listen to you, because I'm tired of your *****ing, complaining and sheer ignorance and hypocracy. So you can reply to this dude, but I'm done listening to you, post something relavent to the topic though and I just might listen to your ass and you've gotten my topics locked? Hah, that's bull****. Oh yeah, complain to the moderators, so I can be banned for YOUR comments. The only way anything is going to get fixed, if you ignore this topic and stop SPAMMING IT(Does anything you post have to do with the topic? No, you're spamming).
You know what is spam? These threads you keep making that serve no other purpose than rubbing your e-peen. Aww, you're tired of my b*tching, complaining sheer ignorance and "hypocracy". Consequently, you're also tired of many other people that just won't stop complaining to you. But I'm sure we're all imagining things and you know exactly what's going on.

Just to further demonstrate my point, this is a partial list of all the threads started by you that have gotten locked.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=83604

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=83723

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=83509

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=81595

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=80961

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=76877

Viper, if you look this stupid on the internet, one can only imagine how badly you're doing in real life. You've got plenty of work to do Viper. Plenty of work to do.

You've proven to us that you're a grade A p*ssy. You've proven that your solution to problems is pretending they don't exist (claiming not to read my posts that are commenting on this exact behavior) and violently defending things that you are clearly wrong about. But I suppose that's much easier to do than acting like someone who actually has a pair. I assure you though, I'll bite my own ass if you manage to prove me wrong and actually get something done... but that's not going to happen cause you're just a little b!tch.

Don't worry, there is a future for your sex life. Right here .
 

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Blah..Blah...Blah... That's what your words mean to me, don't you get it man? I don't ****ing care all right, so **** off like LikRetsam. I love how you think it really means something me, that only 6 out of several topics that I have made have been lock, but you know, I'm done with you, I'm getting back to the topic. I get enough of this **** at school and I don't need to take **** from you.
And if this thread gets locked, I blame your ***** ass, for if it weren't for you being such a ***** about everything, this topic would not have a chance of getting locked, but no, now the mods see conflict, off-topicness, they have a reason to lock it.
I bet your dumbass didn't even read the whole post, I mean, it's so completely obvious you didn't even read the first post, you just said "OMG! VIPER TOPIC! I'M GOING TO ***** AND COMPLAIN AND LOL, I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO READ FIRST POST, I'M JUST GOING TO WHINE AND CONVINCE MODS TO LOCK MY THREAD".
Somethings you say, you just can't make sound good. But nontheless, voice tone counts.
Well, to the tell you the truth I don't really have a good voice tone, but I'm going to work on improving that, if it will improve my game, problem is, I have no clue how to improve my voice tone, maybe you guys could help me out with that? I would very much appreciate it.
on to a more on thread topic: u tend to always post a convo you had with a girl, so hers what i do mentaly that i suddjest you try mentaly or on paper. write out your conversation. read it and think about how you said everything(were you happy? mubbling? sounding desperate? whatever) . remeber how she said what she said. then go over the convos and think of ways how you could have said what u said more succesfully. use all u have learned and put it into the "new" convo now reherse mentaly HOW not what you would be saying. then nexxt day implicate the teqniecs u used in that imaginary convos.( do what few people have done for you with the post were they alterd your convo to be better, for your self)
Hmm... interesting advice, I think this technique will definitely help me improve.
Viper, you have made some good progress, we all can't start big.

Me, I started small, and now, I rock.

As for the conversations, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

I could tell a girl she is going to do really well on the algebra test, and she would so be caught, she would be wondering about me, and confused, and eventually in love.

Tell me Viper, how many girls are in love with you?

I bet a few at least like you ALOT.

One secret I have, is I assume every girl loves me, or atleast has major sexual attraction. Of course, I am a sexy guy, but girls like different guys.

But assume a girl likes you, until proven otherwise, and you will never be proven otherwise, because, girls are fickle, and never mean what they say.
Very good advice, I'm going to start putting more emphasis on how I say things, than on what I actually say. Man, I'm going to stop planning conversations and just let things naturally flow, because what if I plan something and things don't go exactly how I pictured them? That's just asking for trouble. But yeah, I'm definitely going to apply these things if I decide to make an approach at band rehearsal today.
 

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Originally posted by Viper
God damn it, when did I say I DIDN'T YOUR ASKING ME TO ADMIT SOMETHING I DIDN'T DENY and I'm not ****ing looking for an instant fix. I KNOW THAT THERE IS NO MAGICAL ****ING TOPIC THAT WILL MAKE ME A BETTER CONVERSATION AND NO MAGICAL TOPIC THAT WILL MAKE ME MORE INTERESTING, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A QUICK FIX, MR. I THINK I KNOW EVERYTHING. I'm not going to admit it, because it's not true, I'm looking for tips that I can use to EVENTUALLY get better at conversation and tips I can use to improve attraction OVER TIME, *******. So just shutup, because you do not know ****, if you want to keep posting your stupid presumations, do it, I don't care because I know its not true. Let's be realistic here, I know there is no quick fix, so WHY WOULD I BE LOOKING FOR ONE, HUH, MR. SMARTASS? Exactly, I'm not looking for a quick -mother****ing- fix, I'm looking for tips that will help me improve over time.
Yes, I do get pissed off easily, but deal with it.
You honestly dont get it. Denial is a bit*h.
 

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Originally posted by oakraiderz2
You honestly dont get it. Denial is a bit*h.
What am I ****ing denying? Honestly, I've had no ****ing clue what you guys have been talking about me, 'denying' and 'not accepting', since the first time you stated I was 'denying' it.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Enlighten me of what youre going to do then? When are you gonna walk the walk instead of running your mouth?? You remind me of this guy 'Lost' that used to post here. He was EXACTLY like you and he NEVER DID A DAMN THING! He just made excuses of why he cant do it and that he needed to learn. You two must have fallen from the same tree. We tell you these thing cause we've seen it before and we have expertise in this sh*t. Dont flip your lid because youre a loser and always will be.
 

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i wonder if people stop b1tching at viper, viper will stop b1tching at people...........
 

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Alright people stop feeding Viper.
Viper stop feeding the people.
No one wants to hear any of you all *****. Especially *****ing about *****ing about *****ing.


OK advice time. Start thinking of this as an expiriment. Seriously, think to yourself I am just testing hypothysis out and the outcome doesn't matter. Try ANYTHING and EVERYTHING.
Repeat after me,
"The outcome is uninportant"
"The outcome is uninportant"
"The outcome is uninportant"
"The outcome is uninportant"
"THE OUTCOME IS UNINPORTANT"
Seriously do it, outloud. Say it like you mean it, say it like its just a matter-of-fact thing. Say like if you say it enough it will come true.
If you stop worrying about the outcome and start worrying about the experience and skill, then the pressure is off beacuse everytime is a learning experience and that is your goal.
 

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Viper everything you need is on this site and in your mind. Simple as that. No need to argue wit these "online thugs" If you have a certain situation you need to have addressed pm me, i will get ya wat ya need.
 

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Originally posted by oakraiderz2
Enlighten me of what youre going to do then? When are you gonna walk the walk instead of running your mouth?? You remind me of this guy 'Lost' that used to post here. He was EXACTLY like you and he NEVER DID A DAMN THING! He just made excuses of why he cant do it and that he needed to learn. You two must have fallen from the same tree. We tell you these thing cause we've seen it before and we have expertise in this sh*t. Dont flip your lid because youre a loser and always will be.
You don't READ do you. If you read a damn thing, which you obviously don't, you would know that I am taking the advice with open arms, but no, you don't read, remember, denial is a *****.
And I don't do **** huh? How do you explain all the convos in the first post? Oh, that's right, you don't read, you just reply.
PS: Your convos suck, they all suck.
No stuff.
If they say "uhhh..." walk away they're
wondering why you're talking to them.
Be a little funnier, bust their balls, neg hit the HB8+s.
I'm not a naturally funny guy, ****y but not funny, so it will be a while until I'm secure about using neg hits on girls, nonetheless, I will see into learning about this neg hit stuff.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by Soniq_red
Man! Viper rules he makes me see what I don't want
to be. So I WORK at being a PUA.

I concure.

Viper everything you need is on this site and in your mind. Simple as that. No need to argue wit these "online thugs" If you have a certain situation you need to have addressed pm me, i will get ya wat ya need.
Dude i tried that sh*t too. He has to sort out his problems and actually do something about one thing instead of trying to solve everything at once...because obviously it isnt working.

Fu*kin viper...

STEP ONE - Make and hold eye contact

STEP TWO - Opener/greeting...ex. HEY, HI, WHATS UP, HOWS IT GOING

STEP THREE - Conversations...personally i dont think youre ready for this part you. You dont have the balls or enough confidence to make an approach. When you feel like you can actually appraoch, then work on the convos. Ive honestly tried to help you but when you start acting like a punk b*tch everyone gets annoyed. Ill take this chance to stop wasting my life. Will you ever do it...we'll see
 

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Originally posted by Soniq_red
he doesn't need SoSuave, he needs therapy.
You don't need to reply to my topic, you need shut the hell up.
Just because your some ****ing DJ doesn't mean you have the right to be rude and make stupid comments.
 

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viper , i think in your rebutles be a little bit more polite. and try not to insult people as much, this just fuels them to post more like how there posts fuel you to make a rebutle. which is why i think maybe you should try to be more polite in your responses
 

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Originally posted by oakraiderz2
I concure.



Dude i tried that sh*t too. He has to sort out his problems and actually do something about one thing instead of trying to solve everything at once...because obviously it isnt working.

Fu*kin viper...

STEP ONE - Make and hold eye contact

STEP TWO - Opener/greeting...ex. HEY, HI, WHATS UP, HOWS IT GOING

STEP THREE - Conversations...personally i dont think youre ready for this part you. You dont have the balls or enough confidence to make an approach. When you feel like you can actually appraoch, then work on the convos. Ive honestly tried to help you but when you start acting like a punk b*tch everyone gets annoyed. Ill take this chance to stop wasting my life. Will you ever do it...we'll see
STEP ONE - I already do this.

STEP TWO - I already do this when making an approach.

STEP THREE - You know what, I don't, because you know what? I don't want to waste my time, going up to a girl, say hey and have nothing interesting happen. No rapport or interest, you might as well call it business talk because that's all I ever get from girls and that's why I stopped approaching in the first place. Call it an excuse if you want to, surely from threads preceding this, you know that I don't care if you think it is an excuse. As I said before, I get the same old **** from girls most of the time:
Me: Hey.
Girl: Hey.
Me: What's your name?
Girl: (Name)
Me: Hi, I'm Mike.
Me: See you later.
END
After the "Hi, I'm Mike" the girl usually doesn't reply or if she's nice enough and isn't a *****, she'll say "It's nice to meet you", but we never even get to the actual conversation.

You know what? Maybe I should start being more aggressive, maybe if she doesn't want to say anything interesting, she's just wasting my time, therefore approaching would be a waste of time. I'm starting to think that I should just forget you guys and figure this out on my own.

Some of the stuff you guys post helps me, but for the most part, it just doesn't help my game.

viper , i think in your rebutles be a little bit more polite. and try not to insult people as much, this just fuels them to post more like how there posts fuel you to make a rebutle. which is why i think maybe you should try to be more polite in your responses
Sure, I can do that, so you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to be polite and ignore them if they don't have anything useful to say.
 

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Your not wasting your time. What else are you goin be doing in school? Keep trying eventualy you'll say something interesting just by accident or you will meet a very outgoing chick who will do alot of the thinking of new things to talk about for you. Eventually with enough of this you will learn what is interesting to talk about all the time.

BUT you are going to have to drag through the mud untill that time. Think of it as studying for a test. It may seem like a waste of time but even if you don't think it you are learning something.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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