Hello, I set up a date this evening with a woman that is going back to her home state on Wednesday. We're going to most likely eat dinner together tomorrow night, and then the fun will start. So, I need some fast advice on seduction techniques in this situation. It's an attractive blonde that gave me her phone number, and I called her and got the date set up. I am a 22 year old virgin who needs some coaching advice today. The goal of the date is definitely close contact and sex. There is nothing to lose. I'm going for a kiss no doubt, and more. But what should I do to succeed the way I want to for this date? I appreciate the help. Escalation advice is needed.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I'm going on a date tomorrow night with a girl that is going home soon.
- Thread starter Deicide
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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I'll try to help with some general tips.
1. I assume you are going out to eat. Pick a restaurant that is not far from your place.
2. Definitely order a drink so she will too. Maybe have two.
3. Be fun and playful. Tease her a bit.
4. Touch her forearm while making a point. Later, maybe rest your hand on hers. Make a good eye contact.
5. Towards the end of the dinner, mention a cool movie that you have at your place.
6. Walk her to the car holding her hand or at least have your hand on her lower back.
7. When you get to the car, brush her hair aside with your fingertips and go for the kiss.
8. ***Don't makeout too heavy at first. Be the first to end the kiss. Then give her a little smile/smirk. You want to tease her a bit and give the subtle message, "I want to do bad things with you, but this isn't the place...yet."
9. Go back to your place. You may or may not have to turn the tv on lol. If she gets close to you and looks you in the eye, f*ck the tv, it's on lol.
10. If she's more distant at your house, grab a seat on the couch and get the tv going. Sit next to her and get your hand on hers again.
11. Do the hair touch and get kissing again. Now, you can makeout as much as possible.
12. Your hands can slowly wander....down her sides, then brushing her breasts.
13. Time to REALLY turn up the heat. Kiss her neck. Literally make out with neck area below her ear. Tongue it good. Then go back to regular kissing.
14. Let your hands wander aggressively. Rub her breasts and then her p*ss. Then stop and start again.
15. Slowly reposition so you are on top of her.
16. As she gets really turned on and breathing deeper, start grinding her.
17. Make out and dry hump as much as possible.
18. (You could at this point invite her to the bedroom at this point, but why risk her changing her mind. Proceed to b*ng her on the couch.)
19. Take off one clothing article off her at a time. Her top first. Then bra. Then your shirt. Her pants. Your pants. Her panties.
20. Oh yeah, take your socks off. Chicks HATE fooking when the guy has his socks on for some reason. It's the ultimate insult.
21. Keep grinding her hard with your boxers on. She should soaking and you should have major wood by now. (If not, get her to bl*w you.)
22. Say something like, "You ready baby...?" or "You want to feel my hard c&ck inside you?" She'll almost definitely say yes. (I like to do that so there is no question about consent.)
23. Put condom on. If your **** isn't super hard, grip it tight with your fist as you slide it in.
24. Slide to home plate.
25. As I mentioned in a previous post, you might not be able to c*m your first time. That's ok. Use that to your advantage and go like a p*rn star.
26. Maybe start out missionary, the turn her over switch to doggie.
Just take the general ideas from this. This is NOT a precise cookbook receipe to be followed exactly. It's not rocket science. Good luck bro.
1. I assume you are going out to eat. Pick a restaurant that is not far from your place.
2. Definitely order a drink so she will too. Maybe have two.
3. Be fun and playful. Tease her a bit.
4. Touch her forearm while making a point. Later, maybe rest your hand on hers. Make a good eye contact.
5. Towards the end of the dinner, mention a cool movie that you have at your place.
6. Walk her to the car holding her hand or at least have your hand on her lower back.
7. When you get to the car, brush her hair aside with your fingertips and go for the kiss.
8. ***Don't makeout too heavy at first. Be the first to end the kiss. Then give her a little smile/smirk. You want to tease her a bit and give the subtle message, "I want to do bad things with you, but this isn't the place...yet."
9. Go back to your place. You may or may not have to turn the tv on lol. If she gets close to you and looks you in the eye, f*ck the tv, it's on lol.
10. If she's more distant at your house, grab a seat on the couch and get the tv going. Sit next to her and get your hand on hers again.
11. Do the hair touch and get kissing again. Now, you can makeout as much as possible.
12. Your hands can slowly wander....down her sides, then brushing her breasts.
13. Time to REALLY turn up the heat. Kiss her neck. Literally make out with neck area below her ear. Tongue it good. Then go back to regular kissing.
14. Let your hands wander aggressively. Rub her breasts and then her p*ss. Then stop and start again.
15. Slowly reposition so you are on top of her.
16. As she gets really turned on and breathing deeper, start grinding her.
17. Make out and dry hump as much as possible.
18. (You could at this point invite her to the bedroom at this point, but why risk her changing her mind. Proceed to b*ng her on the couch.)
19. Take off one clothing article off her at a time. Her top first. Then bra. Then your shirt. Her pants. Your pants. Her panties.
20. Oh yeah, take your socks off. Chicks HATE fooking when the guy has his socks on for some reason. It's the ultimate insult.
21. Keep grinding her hard with your boxers on. She should soaking and you should have major wood by now. (If not, get her to bl*w you.)
22. Say something like, "You ready baby...?" or "You want to feel my hard c&ck inside you?" She'll almost definitely say yes. (I like to do that so there is no question about consent.)
23. Put condom on. If your **** isn't super hard, grip it tight with your fist as you slide it in.
24. Slide to home plate.
25. As I mentioned in a previous post, you might not be able to c*m your first time. That's ok. Use that to your advantage and go like a p*rn star.
26. Maybe start out missionary, the turn her over switch to doggie.
Just take the general ideas from this. This is NOT a precise cookbook receipe to be followed exactly. It's not rocket science. Good luck bro.
^ this guy has the right idea. The only thing I can add is go into this date with zero expectations, but escalate.
And if you get any resistance while escalating just go back to what you were doing before for a bit and try again. Like if your trying to get her shirt off and she stops you, well go back to making out, turn her on some more, then try again. I almost lost my virginity just over a week ago, and she put up tons of resistance. But I plowed through it all, and after almost 3 hours she wanted to fvck (it fvcking sucks I couldn't get inside her, lmao).
And if you get any resistance while escalating just go back to what you were doing before for a bit and try again. Like if your trying to get her shirt off and she stops you, well go back to making out, turn her on some more, then try again. I almost lost my virginity just over a week ago, and she put up tons of resistance. But I plowed through it all, and after almost 3 hours she wanted to fvck (it fvcking sucks I couldn't get inside her, lmao).
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That sux. Sorry to hear that.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
i was seeing a chick under similar terms, and had to act fast to get anywhere and still got flaked on afterwords. (I got pretty much everything except sex).Deicide said:I was flaked on tonight. I called her and sent her a text later on, and no reply to either one. I'm not really bothered by it, it just pisses me off.
Cut your losses at this point. You gotta really know how to finish within a short time period in cases like this, and even than you'll get flaked on. If an opportunity comes up, try and seal the deal but don't bank on it.
don't worry dude, it happens a lot. This is very much a numbers game. Get out, meet more women.Deicide said:It happens I suppose. But I'm not going to let it get me down. I'm going to approach and close more and more. Life hasn't been easy for me lately, but I will persevere.