“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm falling in love.. With a fat chick!

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Right! We should think of ourselves as kings, and women we sleep with are our harems. A king would never take a wife or concubine that he didn't feel was genetically fit to bear his children. Even if you never plan to father children, this is a good attitude to have as a don juan.

So not wanting to date grossly overweight women is not being shallow, it's being true to our nature as human beings.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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whatever floats your boat dude, don't worry about other peoples feelings on what your girlfriend looks like.
 

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I'm just going to say that I read the title of this thread and laughed myself to tears! Dude, read my sig, that'll tell you all you need to know. lol!
 

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When I was a huge AFC i thought i was in love with a fat chick. She dumped me because I wouldn't go and get her a family bucket from KFC
 

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onyx said:
When I was a huge AFC i thought i was in love with a fat chick. She dumped me because I wouldn't go and get her a family bucket from KFC

:crackup: lmao!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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If you're dating her in the hope that she'll shape up: Consider the fact that if she slims down, she may dump you. Isn't that typically what happens when one partner improves while the other one doesn't?
 

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onyx said:
When I was a huge AFC i thought i was in love with a fat chick. She dumped me because I wouldn't go and get her a family bucket from KFC
Thank you for that.
 

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Some of these responses are hilarious -- in a different way than those who are posting them think.

Go for whatever you want.
 

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I'm going to be brutally honest.

This site is for people who want to improve themselves. Obviously you have not been using the advice on this site to improve yourself if you ended up with a woman who you admit you're not attracted to physically.

The choice is yours. Improve yourself or settle.
 

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Humans crave approval from others no matter how many people say "I do not care what others think about me". If you go out with a fat chick you won't feel right every time you are out with her. The feeling wont pass
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Max Power said:
I'm going to be brutally honest.

This site is for people who want to improve themselves. Obviously you have not been using the advice on this site to improve yourself if you ended up with a woman who you admit you're not attracted to physically.
The choice is yours. Improve yourself or settle.

QFT. Physical attraction is always going to be needed if you want to have a long lasting healthy relationship. Do a variation on the bootcamp where you use the methods but only on women you find to be 7+. I think that you'll find plenty of good looking girls with good attitudes if you look

Humans crave approval from others no matter how many people say "I do not care what others think about me". If you go out with a fat chick you won't feel right every time you are out with her. The feeling wont pass
You are obviously thinking these thoughts now anyways in your situation. Things aren't going to get better. I had a couple of friends in college who almost every weekend would be all, "lets go hogging" and everyone else was telling them to **** off. They would constantly do it and all of our other friends would hook up with better girls and not "hog". After a couple of years of this we all were wondering wtf is up with these guys? Turns out they were scared to approach anything better for fear of rejection.

There is enough info on this site to get you to overcome such fears and be successful with good looking girls who have good attitudes.

Unless that is what you want in a woman you should re-acquaint yourself with the DJbible and the archives here.
 

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Well.. This is really the 1st time i've been anywhere close to a relationship. Before it was only 1 night stands & the few dates that i did go on made me realise we had little in common or just had little repour & so nothing ever went anywhere.

This is the 1st time that i REALLY get on with someone & can be myself around & she really likes me back. I think that's what's stopping me from moving on. Plus she is a genuinely great person & fun, etc.

I'm meeting up with her tomorrow. Shall i go for it?
 

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U know what...I used to judge girlz before and i dont do it no more because that stops u from being a real person and makes the girlz u interact with seem like objects...Never judge a book by its cover....i've met some of the greatest looking chicks in my life and I just don't feel **** for them and then...i find another one that is a bit less than what i wantin the looks have a great interaction and pass the opportunity....

When i was a lil kid i used to tell my best friend...I wish i could have a time machine to go to the future and see who im going to marry so if shes ugly as hell I could know who it is...

hes response ..if u ever marry someone its not going to be how she looks cuz they are going to be like tiny matters but most important how u feel about her....which is true because sometimes people end up in the most ****ed up marriages just because the bond just separates..why would their be many single people in the world if it wasn't just because the attration between two people die....and im still schocked cuz that was the best advice ive gotten in my life and it was by 12 year old

U know whats funny....that all the guys who get laid often by women don't know how to get with women in real relationships and then....come back for advice....the ones who know how to take it a step further and from having great interactions with women dont come back that often....to ask....why dont they feel anything for the girls their picking up...

Physical attarction is very important for us men.....really important but to find a women who is really hot and with a great personality is hard.....just go for what rocks ur boat....

Im not an Afc....i just tell it how i see it...
 
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12 year olds see the world through rosy, happy , lovey dovey glasses. When people grow up they set aside those glasses, it looks as if you had some separation anxiety and picked them back up.

Physical attraction is an important part of a relationship. I honestly can not get hard for a unattractive woman. Do you think if I fall in love for an ugly woman she will accept my impotence because she loves me?

The world doesn't work that way man, take of those glasses and let you eyes gaze upon the reality that we call life.
 

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diceman-son, thats a big *****. "Watch out for the big girls, big girls"....silly song...anyway there are plenty of dudes in the hood who like "think" chicks. I'm am not one of those dudes. I could be with a plump girl but humongous nah.

You could gain weight to match her or get her to lose wieght? Is her face atleast pretty?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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1. I want to use this thread right here to end a very ongoing debate that has been going on at sosuave since I have been here.

You wonder do looks matter... read the responses in this thread. I rest my case. Can you get great looking quality women if you are FAT and out of shape? sure, but it's literary shooting darts blindfolded after you have been turned around 20 times and hopping to hit a bullseye. You guys are so critical of overweight women, yet most of you are eating pizza right now, jacking off and you can't even see your ****, or you are so skinny you look like a starving African child, no muscle definition, yet you DEMAND beautiful women.. get real. Hit the gym, work out. get healthy

2) As far as this woman, I"m not going to put my personal views of women on here... but if you like the woman.. the hell with everyone else. The ONLY thing that concerns me... you mentioned that you got drunk and had sex.. do you have to to get drunk to **** her?
 

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NickBe said:
12 year olds see the world through rosy, happy , lovey dovey glasses. When people grow up they set aside those glasses, it looks as if you had some separation anxiety and picked them back up.

Physical attraction is an important part of a relationship. I honestly can not get hard for a unattractive woman. Do you think if I fall in love for an ugly woman she will accept my impotence because she loves me?

The world doesn't work that way man, take of those glasses and let you eyes gaze upon the reality that we call life.
'Nickbe' you've got to take of your glasses too... they may not be rosy but they are some ****ty color for sure.
say you find the owoman of your dreams.. 110% sexy (just the way you like it) and you guys hit it off.. all goes great and you end up marrying this wonderful soul too.. one day.. she meets with an accident and her face is disfigured.. she starts putting on weight is actually turns into a woman you think is very VERY UGLY. now what do you do?? (oh you have kids too...).. lemme guess... you'll do what you like.. and what makes you happy.. get another pretty chick for yourself? get a life 'nickbe' - take of those glasses. (sorry for being so brunt.. im just having a very serious day)
 

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ducaro said:
'Nickbe' you've got to take of your glasses too... they may not be rosy but they are some ****ty color for sure.
say you find the owoman of your dreams.. 110% sexy (just the way you like it) and you guys hit it off.. all goes great and you end up marrying this wonderful soul too.. one day.. she meets with an accident and her face is disfigured.. she starts putting on weight is actually turns into a woman you think is very VERY UGLY. now what do you do?? (oh you have kids too...).. lemme guess... you'll do what you like.. and what makes you happy.. get another pretty chick for yourself? get a life 'nickbe' - take of those glasses. (sorry for being so brunt.. im just having a very serious day)

what do I do? I leave.

you only live once. I wouldn't expect nothing less form her either.

alot of you guys romanticize relationships.

90% of women will leave you if you go broke.. trust me.. half if not all of the women I know wouldnt' look at me twice 5 years ago.. but I'm supposed to think they love me "unconditionally"... you love what I have BECOME


There is nothing NOBLE with staying with someone you are not any longer attracted to. it's dumb. It's a dog eat dog world.

I'm supposed to stay with her because 'f the kids" but if I gained say, 50 pounds and some don juan stroked her ego the right she leaves, sticks me with the kids and gets half my **** because "she isn't feeling me?"

again...marriage isn't the problem... it's the people considering it
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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