"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I'm drunk and I think this may be a sh!t test

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Unstopped text exchanges, she says:

So what are you doing besides texting me?
about 20 mins ago

I'm about 9 shots in, no date yet. My drunken state is telling me to not respond until tomorrow.

If you were to respond that will send her hamster spinning(she threw out a fvcking hamster bait) what would you say?

Please change thread title to incredibly likely pigeon craps on your car sh!t test.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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30 minutes later she sends me a self shot with breasts hanging out.

Ha, this **** is unbelievably predictable.

No response until tomorrow it is, hope I have enough liquor. Thanks for everything guys!
 

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Let me get this straight...you are drinking by yourself to ignore a girls's supposedly sh&t tests...hahahahaha....just tell her you are doing something and too busy to text and meet her whenever date is setup for...i hate it when they start non stop texting like that even if they are sending sexy pics...
 
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Yeah, I shouldn't have binged during happy hour. Buddy drove home save, no DUI. That self shot is still lingering. She was seeking some sort of validation with her text and again with her self shot. I think I may feed it in an hour.
 

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Preferably with "what a terrible pictue! - come over now and show me them properly"

Youre welcome.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I didn't respond to the text and she texted me an hour later to give her a call when I had the chance. Pretty good interest for our initial exchange after I got her number.

Then my roommate wanted to play BattleShots....

Then I called her near blackout drunk.....

Then I checked my usage the next morning...

20 text exchanges after the phone call + a 10 minute conversation after.

I don't remember anything and I deleted the text exchange. Probably because it ended terribly. Too bad, she was an (8) blondie.

This is probably the 10th time in the past year that I have lost women/plates due to my binge drinking. Calling it quits now.
 

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LOL, you don't need to call it quits. But you do need to control your binge drinking if you want to be solid at this game. It's all in balance, but for the majority try to limit your drinking to no more than 4 drinks. Most likely you'll feel fine after 4 drinks, but trust me, in an hour you'll be pretty drunk or really buzzed.

I've had a battle with alcohol, and have lost many plates as well. The best advice I can give is to count your drinks. If you don't you'll get lost in how many drinks you've had and before you know it you're shytfaced making bad decisions.

I don't think you've lost this girl. Yes she knew you were drunk (and girls find this a major turnoff) but when girls are younger they don't see it as big deal. If you guys were ten years older, then yes, you're done.
 
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Sandow said:
LOL, you don't need to call it quits. But you do need to control your binge drinking if you want to be solid at this game. It's all in balance, but for the majority try to limit your drinking to no more than 4 drinks. Most likely you'll feel fine after 4 drinks, but trust me, in an hour you'll be pretty drunk or really buzzed.

I've had a battle with alcohol, and have lost many plates as well. The best advice I can give is to count your drinks. If you don't you'll get lost in how many drinks you've had and before you know it you're shytfaced making bad decisions.

I don't think you've lost this girl. Yes she knew you were drunk (and girls find this a major turnoff) but when girls are younger they don't see it as big deal. If you guys were ten years older, then yes, you're done.
You're right on counting the drinks, moderation is key. My room mate likes to drink and we feed off from each other. It's hard to say 'Bro, let's have only 5 shots tonight' and stick with the plan. Once I drink, my inhibition tells me that just one more is fine. This was my first binge in a while and it so happened to coincidentally be my exchange with this chick.

I like to keep it optimistic, but it's nearly impossible to recoup from my past experiences. I've got dates with women after talking to them drunk on the phone, but I don't remember anything I said. Most of the time I would repeat the stuff on the date and they would catch on quick. It's best for me to just prematurely give up.

One chance. One woman. One lifetime.
 

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What Sandow said. Don't write it off just yet and see how it goes.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Nothings ever over till you know 1000% it's over. Don't ever count anything out. On a side note, it's not good if you're always blacking out. When I know I'm going to get shytfaced with my friends, like you mentioned above, I never ever call, text, email any chick on my phone. I know this is hard, but I make very conscious effort to avoid this. But now it's so ingrained in my head, it's pretty easy to refrain from drunk dialing or texting. You should get in the same habit of telling yourself no drunk dialing/texting when you drink!
 

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BeginningDJ said:
I didn't respond to the text and she texted me an hour later to give her a call when I had the chance. Pretty good interest for our initial exchange after I got her number.

Then my roommate wanted to play BattleShots....

Then I called her near blackout drunk.....

Then I checked my usage the next morning...

20 text exchanges after the phone call + a 10 minute conversation after.

I don't remember anything and I deleted the text exchange. Probably because it ended terribly. Too bad, she was an (8) blondie.

This is probably the 10th time in the past year that I have lost women/plates due to my binge drinking. Calling it quits now.

All you had to do was tell her you were busy and would talk later. Also, that is why i stopped doing shots and drinking liquor of any kind...it makes you too crazy.....pro tip...stick to beer...you will never get blackout drunk unless you are drinking all day long. I hate shots...you don't ghet anything from them except intoxicated...you can't casually enjoy drinking a shot...it's just one shot....i like to casually sip on a beer or wine much better than mindlessly downing shots. Only time i take shots is when i am getting a chick to drink with me so she will take a shot as well and speed up the getting tipsy process..
 
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I don't know what triggers my urge to drunk text/dial.

Maybe it's my subconscious Beta/AFC is waiting for that moment to break out of prison.

Maybe I'm the Beta/AFC who uses alcohol as an excuse for what I truly want to do.

I texted her and she responded right away.

Horrible night
What happened? =\

I don't even know how to play this sh!t, man.
 

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BeginningDJ said:
I don't know what triggers my urge to drunk text/dial.

Maybe it's my subconscious Beta/AFC is waiting for that moment to break out of prison.

Maybe I'm the Beta/AFC who uses alcohol as an excuse for what I truly want to do.

I texted her and she responded right away.

Horrible night
What happened? =\

I don't even know how to play this sh!t, man.

Respond to her "What happened?" with part of what P.Filth said.

"You sent me the pic and it came across blurry. I was going to tell you to come over to hang out (or show me in person) and I wound up falling asleep instead."

That could be your "horrible night" excuse. I wouldn't say anything about previous texts, nor drinking. Completely put it on her pic, hanging out, and you just fell asleep. Then see when she wants to hang out.
 

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yeah, i would cut to the chase...no sense in texting to build rapport or do damage control...if she rejects then next...no worries...
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It was done from the get-go.

One woman. One chance. One lifetime.
 
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