"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I'm dating my ex

theunflushables

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Before I start let me say I can hear you all yelling "AFC!" but I assure you this is the exact opposite.

So, my ex came crawling back today and wants to start over. Which I like the idea because it gives me an upperhand, being she wants a relationship and I can take it or leave it more or less.

I wouldn't say I was complete AFC last time around, however I am sure there were some tendencies. That being said, any specific tips for me keeping control this time around?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hah,

ur gonna take her back after she had some other persons ****?

what happened to ex's should stay ex's because they are ex's for a reason...

bro, if it didnt work the first time around, its NOT gonna work the second time, unless a ****long time has passed... its not even about taking control... if i were you i'd just use her for sex and make it clear that that is all she's being used for..

its only time before she makes you fall for her agian and DUMP your ass agian until the "next best thing" rolls around agian...
 

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Yes. Tell her a resounding and heartfelt "FVCK YOU!". Then politely escort her to the door.

Why are you validating her treatment of you from the past? I know you'll say: "But senseai Karma, I know she's changed. It's true, you'll see."

Wrong asshopper, I don't need to see. I already have shaken the magic 8 ball and it has granted me a glimpse of your future. If you're interested I'll tell you? You ready? Ok, it says:

You will have to hand her your sac and leave your c0ck in her purse.

Don't do it young brother. Show her the door then go plate shopping.
 

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you miss the point of not dating ex's.

you don't date them because they are sorry. I'm sure she is.

let me put it this way. if you were handing your business and had 4-5 women totally into you that were hot as well.. would she even be into consideration?

dating an ex is like going shopping at wal mart, realizing you can't afford anything else out there.. and going right back to wal mart

Name one time dating an ex has become a successful LTR. I can't think of any
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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haha...asshoper. I like it. lol

Yeah, I know, I know I may be making a dumb ass mistake here, but damn if I don't have feelings for her.

I know for sure I am deffinetly NOT going to move back in with her for a while if things did work out.

I think the main reason why it didn't work out is because she didn't realize how good she had it.

And remember I'm not going to get emotionally attached until she can prove herself so if it doesnt work out, meh...no big loss.
 

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I know I may be making a dumb ass mistake here, but damn if I don't have feelings for her.
that doesn't mean it's right. there are times when emotions should overrule rationality (albiet not many).. this isn't one of them.

If you follow these rules in life in general, you will be alot less torn over things

1. People inherintly don't give a fvck about you, regardless how much you think they do

2. A woman who has cheated on you, will cheat again. regardless of the circumstances, she knows that if she sees something that entices her enough she can get it, and you aren't going anywhere, because you have proven you won't go anywhere, because you can't get anything else.

I think the main reason why it didn't work out is because she didn't realize how good she had it.
This is mumbo jumbo created by the music/women industry. Women always know how good they have. So do men. Just step back from the situtation and use your rationality.. does a woman who really is head over heals over a guy, cheat on him?

don't confuse "having it made" with "attraction".... HUGE DIFFERENCE' women will "have it made" with any AFC out there. As a matter of fact, AFC's have the "have it made" market pretty much sown up. she has counelss of good looking guys who will literarly kiss her ass, and do anything to prove their undying love for her.

but having it made, and being attracted to a guy, are not the same thing. They aren't even in the same ocean. Not to say you have to be a ****, but don't assume because you did "everything right" that she is going to come running back to you. Why is she coming back? hell I don't know.. but that's not the reason why, I can promise you.

but damn if I don't have feelings for her.
then


And remember I'm not going to get emotionally attached until she can prove herself

dude you sound like a little *****.. don't take that the wrong way, but that's how women I talk to talk. SHE CHEATED ON YOU. you either like her or you don't. either way you don't take her back, but you can't get over an old GF until you admit the feelings you have had for her.

you need to toughen up. I'm not Rollo or anything but I'm going to play doctor for a minute. you have no life. this entire situation is saying you have no life worth living. that is what it says about you, because you are so damn hopeless you will take a woman that sucked another guy off back in your life because "you have feelings for her".

you need to spin plates in the absolute worst way.
 

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theunflushables said:
And remember I'm not going to get emotionally attached until she can prove herself so if it doesnt work out, meh...no big loss.
Asshopper, this is why you'll fail and fall back into your old ways. You think you can change her. You cannot. Leave that dog to bark and find a new
b!tch(es).
 

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backbreaker said:
you have no life. this entire situation is saying you have no life worth living. that is what it says about you, because you are so damn hopeless you will take a woman that sucked another guy off back in your life because "you have feelings for her".
Take to heart the items in bold. Remember everytime you lie down with her that this other dudes energy was inside of her, pumping and flooding her most intimate parts with his goo which you "love". Remember how she swallowed his load and will breathe and kiss you with that same mouth.

B!tch should be dead in your heart and loins.


you need to spin plates in the absolute worst way.
Amen young BackBreaker. This brother knows what's who.
 

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I don't know where you got the idea that she cheated from, but believe me if she had cheated I wouldnt even be thinking about doing this right now.thi

I guess I didn't expect this response from everybody.Which I don't understand why, I mean whats the worse that can happen. I hang out with her a few times and see its not going to work? No big deal, I learned something then.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Sorry, double post.
 

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Since you seem intent on going back with her at least make sure that when you sense things are going south again that you end the relationship before she can do so a second time on ya.

At least get that level of dignity out of this situation.
 

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Yeah, I deffinetly have my finger on the abort button, as soon as things go south she goes through the door.
 

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Well if she's clean and stuff, go have a sexual relationship with her. I'd honestly keep my options open though considering the past circumstances.
 

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no you are not. what makes matters worse.. you are entering the prime of your man hood.. you are single, and what are you doing? claming up with some ***** who doesn't like you.

this is what it's all about. have you done that little with your life that you want to cling to the only thing you think will accect you?

reality is the hardest pill to swallow
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well, I think this thread is pretty much moot now. Yeah I got swept up into a stupid idea of reliving things and making them better than before. But I've done a lot of introspection today, and it is foolish. You're right backbreaker, I am about to enter the prime of my manhood. And I'm making more money than I ever have before.

So with that said , fvck it, she doesnt get her second chance.
 

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backbreaker said:
Name one time dating an ex has become a successful LTR. I can't think of any
My friend, 38, married his exgirlfriend. They now have 2 daughters and have been married at least 10 years. I see them twice a week at least and they're always teasing and flirting with each other still.
 
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