"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I'm concluding that getting a text after meet-up is a false IOI

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I'm starting to figure out that getting one of those texts from a chick after a meetup where she says she has a great time/had so much fun/smiley smiley doesn't actually mean a whole lot.

The last 2 chicks that did this to me I never actually saw again.

And one of them was OBSESSED with :) :) :) :) :)
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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VladPatton

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I don't believe in IOI's anymore because of shıt like that. Texting is too easy to fake. Way too easy!

You want real IOI's?

Answer: Consistent dates, a pleasant, fun time, getting sex, and overall a great relationship without much craziness, power struggling and confusion.

Anything else should be questioned and be pointed towards Nexting.
 

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VladPatton said:
You want real IOI's?

Answer: Consistent dates, a pleasant, fun time, getting sex, and overall a great relationship without much craziness, power struggling and confusion.
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You better make sure you're getting the sex with it, otherwise you can get the first 2, think they're IOIs, and then find yourself in the friend zone.
 

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VladPatton said:
I don't believe in IOI's anymore because of shıt like that. Texting is too easy to fake. Way too easy!

You want real IOI's?

Answer: Consistent dates, a pleasant, fun time, getting sex, and overall a great relationship without much craziness, power struggling and confusion.

Anything else should be questioned and be pointed towards Nexting.
This so much. My friends fall for this fake IOI shvt all the time and I warn them about it. Yet, they can't handle the truth and get owned lol. The only IOI's I consider are what vlad posted.
 

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I met up a very pretty woman..chatted for about 15 minutes.....just randomly on my way to the bank. I helped her get a cab....I got her to give me her number. When the cab showed up, she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek....I was surprised by this hug so I felt awesome. So the next day, I had some drinks and decided to call her just for the sake of it. Asked if she made it home safely, blah blah... Then she starts throwing out date ideas....like asking me if I'm busy this weekend, telling me she's free on mondays....obviously I told her I had plans already for new years but.....long story short....is having a girl answer ur call and actually maintain a purposeful conversation a true IOI? I'm not so sure....I guess it depends on the girl, and you will only know that she digs you after the sex. That's pretty much the rule.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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_sideways_ said:
I met up a very pretty woman..chatted for about 15 minutes.....just randomly on my way to the bank. I helped her get a cab....I got her to give me her number. When the cab showed up, she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek....I was surprised by this hug so I felt awesome. So the next day, I had some drinks and decided to call her just for the sake of it. Asked if she made it home safely, blah blah... Then she starts throwing out date ideas....like asking me if I'm busy this weekend, telling me she's free on mondays....obviously I told her I had plans already for new years but.....long story short....is having a girl answer ur call and actually maintain a purposeful conversation a true IOI? I'm not so sure....I guess it depends on the girl, and you will only know that she digs you after the sex. That's pretty much the rule.
That's a great IOI, sure. But never take one IOI as golden. Let them culminate one by one until you actually start dating, banging, etc. it really is very simple. Think of each one as a click towards being pointed to your destination. One IOI shouldn't make you think you're George Clooney!
 

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If you want to be pro at reading IOS, start learning body language and micro expressions. Micro expressions are very quick movements of the mouth and eyes that communicate specific emotions. People can hide their feelings, but it's damn near impossible to hide micro expression, as they happen so quick and subconsciously.

On the most basic level you'll be able to pick up her mood and interest in the current situation. At an advanced level you'll be able to know (with near certainty) when she is lying and how she REALLY is feeling, emotionally, during conversations.

These are the same tactics police officers, FBI, etc, use to detect lies and it's also why poker players wear glasses to hide their eyes.

Pay enough attention, and practice. Eventually you'll pick up on it without even thinking about it. You'll be aware of someones true feelings towards you simply by "reading" them.
In some ways it's a curse, because you don't always want to know, but you can't help it.

Women are much better at lying than men, and it's harder to get a read on them, and there are a lot of reasons why that is.
Mostly it has to do with HOW they lie, but I won't go into it unless someone really wants to know.
 

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^ this.....Bro.....will you take me as ur pupil lol jk....but its true. Pm me on how they lie. I think once dudes get their princess is where they stop, not realizing there's an ocean of hammer heads waiting to please you.
 

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Starfvcks 64 said:
If you want to be pro at reading IOS, start learning body language and micro expressions. Micro expressions are very quick movements of the mouth and eyes that communicate specific emotions. People can hide their feelings, but it's damn near impossible to hide micro expression, as they happen so quick and subconsciously.

On the most basic level you'll be able to pick up her mood and interest in the current situation. At an advanced level you'll be able to know (with near certainty) when she is lying and how she REALLY is feeling, emotionally, during conversations.

These are the same tactics police officers, FBI, etc, use to detect lies and it's also why poker players wear glasses to hide their eyes.

Pay enough attention, and practice. Eventually you'll pick up on it without even thinking about it. You'll be aware of someones true feelings towards you simply by "reading" them.
In some ways it's a curse, because you don't always want to know, but you can't help it.

Women are much better at lying than men, and it's harder to get a read on them, and there are a lot of reasons why that is.
Mostly it has to do with HOW they lie, but I won't go into it unless someone really wants to know.
Yea, I would like to know please expand on this topic.
 

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Starfvcks 64 said:
If you want to be pro at reading IOS, start learning body language and micro expressions. Micro expressions are very quick movements of the mouth and eyes that communicate specific emotions. People can hide their feelings, but it's damn near impossible to hide micro expression, as they happen so quick and subconsciously.

On the most basic level you'll be able to pick up her mood and interest in the current situation. At an advanced level you'll be able to know (with near certainty) when she is lying and how she REALLY is feeling, emotionally, during conversations.

These are the same tactics police officers, FBI, etc, use to detect lies and it's also why poker players wear glasses to hide their eyes.

Pay enough attention, and practice. Eventually you'll pick up on it without even thinking about it. You'll be aware of someones true feelings towards you simply by "reading" them.
In some ways it's a curse, because you don't always want to know, but you can't help it.

Women are much better at lying than men, and it's harder to get a read on them, and there are a lot of reasons why that is.
Mostly it has to do with HOW they lie, but I won't go into it unless someone really wants to know.
Post it. I really want to know.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I really would like to hear this too
 

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I'm about to head out for New Years, and instead of typing something quick i'd rather wait and put a lot of thought into it.

Read up on micro expressions to understand the basics. I'm sure there are good youtube vids with examples.

Women are harder to read because they lie differently. It seems like they lie almost out of habit, on auto pilot. They know what they need to say, so they say it without thinking. They give their "tells" after, when most people give it before and during.
 

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Bump for the microexpressions tips.

It would be awesome to have a post on them!
 
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