"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm Back

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I think it's only fair before I begin to take a moment and just thank everyone who is apart of this site. Over the past 2 months the DJ Bible and simply reading other members posts has put a lot of my frustrations into perspective.

Long story short. I met a great gal, dated her for 2 years....and the AFC within me came back. I'm not proud to say it, but the only way to learn from your mistakes is to admit that you screwed up. We ended our relationship.

From that point on I completely shut out women, I focused on my career and now have obtained a job in a Major League Baseball Front office as a Legal Counsel.

As of last week, I finally decided it was time to get back in the game. I read the bible in one night, and hit the town the next night.

I came home after partying at 4 different bars, with 10 numbers.

The point of my post is that for all those guys that are struggling with the end of a relationship, is that going after other women is NOT the answer. It will make you appear needy and you may find yourself in a deeper hole than you started off with.

Now that you know my story, I have a simple question regarding leaving messages on voice mails.

I've never been the type to call women out on their games if they are not picking up their phone. (In my opinion if they won't pick up their phone for me they are not worth it in the first place.) However, has anyone had success with simply calling them out on their answering machine? For example leaving a message for a "Miss Hard to Get?"

I've always been curious, and I might try this when I call 4 out of the 10 later this week, has anyone else had significant results?

Thanks for reading.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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MVP

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Yes, just call by sounding fun, engaging, but not desperate for her.
 
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Be careful with assuming things - they may have never received the message - due to someone else receiving/deleting their message or some other unfortunate event - always call twice within a week's time, just in case!

Don't always think the worst - meaning that she rejected you outright!
 
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