"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I'm a chick and this guy hit on me saying......

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He was a dumb a$$ with no class playing the numbers game.
Say that to 100 women and he might get "lucky" once. Doesn't matter what the gal looks like or her personality, just go for the numbers.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i wonder what this woman expected by posting here.
if it really is a woman at all.
 

Good_ol_boy

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Originally posted by TITANIUM_HeaRT
i wonder what this woman expected by posting here.
if it really is a woman at all.
It doesn't really matter. I've heard about and seen guys like the one she talked about...major lesson, don't be one of them!
 

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I got the answer. Lauren, post a pic of yourself wearing exactly what you wore that night, and we will all tell you step by step what made the guy say such a thing.

PS, if you look average, disregard the above.
 

The Nice Guy is Gone

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Originally posted by Lauren
I was in a pub with a group of friends and as I walked from our table to the bar, some random guy said to me, "hey, I like that shade of lipstick....." <paused> "It would look great around my c*ck"......

I'm not sure if this guy regularly uses this "line" and what sort of success rate it has, however I am thinking that any QUALITY chick would do as I did and mouth off at him - I believe something along the lines of "firstly, it's lip GLOSS not lip stick, and secondly, these lips wouldn't go anywhere near your tiny d*ck".

What do you guys think about this?
Hey Laura, quick question:

What if he hadn't paused, and continued to talk to you having a civil conversation--how would you have reacted then?

If he stopped after the lipstick comment
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Okay, it seems that I need to justify the fact that I am not a sl*t now.... Awesome.

1. I was wearing jeans & a 3/4 length shirt with a scarf - nothing revealing & definitely not what I would call slutty.

2. I hardly wear makeup, apart from mascara & lip gloss.

3. I don't have any piercings apart from ears

4. I have one small tattoo on my foot, which was covered by my shoes.

5. The only reason I made the post was because I told one of my guy friends about this guy & his comment.... He thought it was very funny, and suggested I post it here for people's amusement & comments.

6. I can honestly say that I wouldn't have given him head - ever.

7. If he had of approached in a nicer manner (ie, stopped when he paused), I am fairly outgoing and would have engaged in a civil conversation with him.

See ya,
Lauren

PS: I just had a though .... I have blonde hair - does THAT make me a sl*t? Hmmmm.... :down:
 

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Sh!t guys, you got her to qualify!

I've never used that as an opener, but I'm blatantly sexual within a minute of meeting girls when I'm in places like pubs. Sounded like a dumb thing to do. Do you usually pull from pubs, Lauren?
 

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Any you posted this why?? Haha, I don't care actually, it was a good laugh :p
What the fu-ck do you think is gonna happen in a "pub?" You think you're gonna get approached by intelligent/mature people who aren't drunk off their ass? Come on. Just enjoy the attention you get while you still can.
 

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No, I don't "pull from pubs" - I have been in a relationship for 5 years and I met him at a New Years Eve party.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You're blonde huh........

I would have asked you if the carpet matches the drapes....
or are you too blonde to get that. I haven't met a blonde yet who wasn't.
 

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Originally posted by KarmaSutra
Some of you guys act as if chicks are the enemy. They're not. WIVES ARE.



Just say no.



Karma
LOL...preach it bro! :cool:
 

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Originally posted by Lauren
Okay, it seems that I need to justify the fact that I am not a sl*t now.... Awesome.

1. I was wearing jeans & a 3/4 length shirt with a scarf - nothing revealing & definitely not what I would call slutty.

2. I hardly wear makeup, apart from mascara & lip gloss.

3. I don't have any piercings apart from ears

4. I have one small tattoo on my foot, which was covered by my shoes.

5. The only reason I made the post was because I told one of my guy friends about this guy & his comment.... He thought it was very funny, and suggested I post it here for people's amusement & comments.

6. I can honestly say that I wouldn't have given him head - ever.

7. If he had of approached in a nicer manner (ie, stopped when he paused), I am fairly outgoing and would have engaged in a civil conversation with him.

See ya,
Lauren

PS: I just had a though .... I have blonde hair - does THAT make me a sl*t? Hmmmm.... :down:

Yes babe, you must always justify your slutdom.

It sounds as if this guy knew from one look at you that you wouldn't give him the time of day. He said exactly what was on his mind. He must found your reaction rather funny.


Tell us about this guy friend chump that you have. Do you talk to him about all your guy problems? I'll bet he wants you to give him a blow job too but is just afraid to ask.
 

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This guys comments remind me of a game I used to play with the girls I wanted to next.

Rather then go through with the formality of nexting them I would just say all kinds of strange things to them. I did this to try to understand women a little more. It also helped me become much more bold with them. I would flake on them, tell them I had another date, tell them that they looked ugly or fat, etc. It was rather fun. In my mind I would next them, but I would use them as practice and experiment with them. The strange thing is it made these girls want me more (yeah that is how f-ucked women are)

This guy may very well be doing just that. Very few AFC guys would say something that dirty to a girl, but if they did a few times it would help end their fear of asking women out. That guy has no fear of women and he proved that when he said that. I'm sure hew knew that she would reject him but he didn't care. He just did it anyway for his own ego.

How many AFCs would have the balls to say something that dirty to a girl?
 

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Originally posted by Lauren
Thanks for comments....

MightyMate -> Great to hear that you think I must look like a sl*t - Nice!
Well somehow You got choosen for this text.. And this text works only for this type of woman. No offense. You should blame him not me. Btw 'to look' isnt equal with 'to be'. Regards.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Some "AFC" guys like to try to get sexual with women, but all they ever do is pus-syfoot around. They never talk to them in a sexual way unless the girl starts it. They're scared shi-tless that they're going to lose the girl, but in reality, they already have, by being such pus-sies. You give that motherfu-cker credit for putting you in your place and being upfront with you. He probably knew exactly what you would do, and you were nothing to him. And yes, if you're hot, every "guyfriend" you have is just another guy who wants you to suck his dic-k, but they will never ask. They just hope one day you will magically become attracted to them and do that for them, hahaha.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
Tell us about this guy friend chump that you have. Do you talk to him about all your guy problems? I'll bet he wants you to give him a blow job too but is just afraid to ask.
LOL. Some of you guys have some serious issues and come off as an insecure jackass with your sosuave-macho kneejerk reactions at the mere mention of the word "boyfriend". I don't recall her saying anything about her bf being some timid, pvssy-whipped, shoulder-to-cry-on guy friend. Get over yourself. :rolleyes:


By the way...
Very few AFC guys would say something that dirty to a girl,
I've heard some dirty, overly sexual-at-the-wrong-moment things come out of the mouths of some real losers. I won't be calling this guy a "DJ" just from hearing that he asked her to suck his d*ck in such a creative way.
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin

Tell us about this guy friend chump that you have. Do you talk to him about all your guy problems? I'll bet he wants you to give him a blow job too but is just afraid to ask.
Haha. He's not her "guy-friend", man. The correct term for him would be, "girlfriend".

Originally posted by 00Kevin

LOL. Some of you guys have some serious issues and come off as an insecure jackass with your sosuave-macho kneejerk reactions at the mere mention of the word "boyfriend". I don't recall her saying anything about her bf being some timid, pvssy-whipped, shoulder-to-cry-on guy friend. Get over yourself.
I don't recall anyone here saying anything about a boyfriend besides her. Guilty concious?

Okay, now. I think what the guys want to know is, "does this line work?". We're unable to ask the girl about the line because we've learned not to trust the girls answers (especially sense we know that a girl will not tell the truth if it makes her look like a slut). To answer this question for the men, one of us is going to have to go out and field test the line. Whose it going to be? *sigh* Why does it always have to be me? Haha. Alright. Here's what I'll do, then. I'll use the line on 10 random (completely different) women. I'll report back when I have completed my mission.

In my opinion, there is a problem with this line. It's over-used. I've heard it before. BUT for the purpose of answering this question, I will test it.

In the mean time, Lauren, be careful. This forum isn't woman-friendly. :)
 

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Originally posted by 00Kevin
This guys comments remind me of a game I used to play with the girls I wanted to next.

Rather then go through with the formality of nexting them I would just say all kinds of strange things to them. I did this to try to understand women a little more. It also helped me become much more bold with them. I would flake on them, tell them I had another date, tell them that they looked ugly or fat, etc. It was rather fun. In my mind I would next them, but I would use them as practice and experiment with them. The strange thing is it made these girls want me more (yeah that is how f-ucked women are)

This guy may very well be doing just that. Very few AFC guys would say something that dirty to a girl, but if they did a few times it would help end their fear of asking women out. That guy has no fear of women and he proved that when he said that. I'm sure hew knew that she would reject him but he didn't care. He just did it anyway for his own ego.

How many AFCs would have the balls to say something that dirty to a girl?
Interesting :yes:
It must have been at a certain angle and light shining at a certain degree at that exact spot and for a few seconds, a 1 in 15 in a half chance u might have looked sluttly... :p
 

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**** happens. He may have felt adventurous, he may have had a little dare going.

I would laugh such comments off instead of get all mad/irritated at it. Have a sense of humour. It's so boring when people get all uptight when you're joking around. Lighten up, sheesh.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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