"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'll go with "Solomon Grundy smash level anger" for the win

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What would any of you do in this situation:

A cvnting wh0re of a woman (nay, harpy), leads you on for the better part of two years. You fight it as hard as you can, but she still gets to you. You even get a little sex out of it. But things ultimately never go how you want them to. "Let's stay friends.". You refuse the offer, go about your life, and she comes back to haunt you some more, and she lets you think you've got a shot again. This is a seemingly infinate loop.

One day, she suddenly gets a little too friendly with your "friends". You try and ignore it, rationalizing that she's just trying to make you jealous. After all, you're the one she leaves with at the end of the night. But you still have that suspicion. You even go as far as telling one of your "friends" that you think she's going after your friends in some sick effort to break you.

In time, that "friend" begins acting a little off himself. Wierd phonecalls. Stares blankly at the wall when you're talking to him, when normally he can't shut up. Keeps sending phantom text messages to someone. Various other abberent and out of character behavior.

She occasionally slips and makes her interest in that friend apparent, but she'll deny having that interest. She still strings you along.

You finally accept it, and call their shlt. But rather than face the consequences of their deception, they act like you're being unreasonable. How should a person react to this?

Basically, the biggest bltch I've even met in my life is probably fvcking someone who I once considered a close friend, as I type this. I mean, I can't prove it or anything, but fact are facts. He's been acting wierd. She keeps dropping his name when I'm out with her. She posts pictures of the two of them getting all comfortable with each other on myspace. I even got curious one night while out drinking, and drove past his house (it's not out of the way), and her car was parked out front. At 2AM. It doesn't take fvcking Columbo to piece this one together.

Now I don't think I overreacted. All I did was delete her, her vapid mobile biohazard friends, him, and his closest friends from myspace. Big effin deal! It's just myspace for fvcks sake. That shlt's gay. I just wanted to let them know that I'm aware of what's going on, I don't like it, and I don't want to be involved with them or their friends, and their web of lies. It's not like I threw a tantrum or attacked someone.

She responded with this email:

"wtf?"

Okay.

Then I get this:

"i know that you hate me. you have every right to. i would hate me too, if i were you. for what it's worth, i'm sorry for everything i put you through.
i wish i could take it all back. i wish i would never have led you on. but what's done is done. and i am sorry."

i like how she doesn't capitalize anything. that's supposed to make her "unique" i guess.

Anyway, I didn't bother to respond to either of these. Now what:

"you know [*****]...it's one thing to hate my guts...but to hate all of your friends-just because they talk to me? why?
i think they're actually upset that you just tossed them aside like that.
oh well, none of my business, i guess.

one more thing- why do you hate me? really?"

Oh dear. My "friends" are upset. I should thow an apology party and bake them all a cake.

I did get a message from his brother:

"What, we're not pals anymore. What's your deal mofo?"

Sorry. Nothing personal.

I did respond to her "why do you hate me" inquiry. Nothing too dramatic. Just told her that she doesn't seem to know the difference between right and wrong, and that she should listen to my advice on taking the consequences of of actions into account. She was always so proud of her inability to do so. Oh, and I think I called her a sociopath somewhere in there. I mean, in hindsight the signs were always there.

Today I got this from her:

"i know that i hurt you really bad. i know i could have done things differently, and for that i am sorry. but overall i know who i am. i am not a bad person... i'm just doing what's best for myself right now. and i'm doing exactly what i want to do....not what i should do to make other people happy.
i'm sorry things didn't work out for us...even as friends.
i just don't get why you've abandoned YOUR friends on my account.
take care of yourself."

Hey! So her shift key does work afterall. And I like the "I've got myself tricked into thinking I've a halo over my head" attitude of this one. Oh well.

I'm more pissed off at my "friend", obviously. I mean, if he really was a friend, shouldn't he have at the very least been like, "So that girl who's been fvcking about with your heart for the last two years is showing interest in me, and despite the fact that you've treated me like a brother, and you covered the bills and rent when I couldn't afford to when we were roommates (because he "works" for a phone survey company), and you let me use your computer to download movies (because he obviously can't afford to buy anything), and you paid for some of my high priced liquor-snob drinks at the bar (...), and you gave me a ride everywhere (fvcker refuses to get his license), I think I've gonna fvck you over and hit it.". What an a$$hole.

So yeah. I don't think I've reacted too poorly, all things considered. He's become a drug peddler recently (that must be his allure), and I don't need to be around any of that, or his cokehead friends, anyway.

I'm getting tired, and before I write this post into a book, I have just this to say:

I really wish I would have listened to some of the advice I've been given on this fvcking board. I could have had that succubus bltch out of my life a long time ago. (... though I would probably still trust the other dipshlt in the story...)

Live and learn, and other stupid cliches.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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She's probably been the best thing that's happened to you. Use the experience as inspiration to double your DJ efforts and make the pain spur on your quest for better girls. You don't have to settle for poor behaviour from anyone
 

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What's this girls e-mail? I would personally like to call her a cancerous dirty slut who doesn't deserve to breathe. I hope she gets herpes!
 

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Good for you, you did the right thing. Use this to change yourself for the positive. I WOULD NEVER fck a bro's ho. It's a low down dirty thing to do. This is along the lines of motivation I used to set me straight. Think of it as a blessing in disguise.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Your mentality appears to still be firmly entrenched in AFCism, you have alot of work to do.

I'm more pissed off at my "friend", obviously. I mean, if he really was a friend, shouldn't he have at the very least been like, "So that girl who's been fvcking about with your heart for the last two years is showing interest in me, and despite the fact that you've treated me like a brother, and you covered the bills and rent when I couldn't afford to when we were roommates (because he "works" for a phone survey company), and you let me use your computer to download movies (because he obviously can't afford to buy anything), and you paid for some of my high priced liquor-snob drinks at the bar (...), and you gave me a ride everywhere (fvcker refuses to get his license), I think I've gonna fvck you over and hit it.". What an a$$hole.
Your friend is irrelevant, all those favours you did amount to nothing. More than likely puzzy is the rare commodity in his world, he could probably get 10 other joes to do all that sh!t you did. But this chicks cvnt?... to him its the real scarcity/prize.

The dude probably doesnt know any better, much like you.

Get busy.
 
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