Ignorant women, is it on the rise?

[cervantesscthree]

I've been going out for a few years (5) and had a nice number of lays, but recently, I'm not sure if it's just me, I've begun to notice an increase in ignorance.

Now, I know much of the bitc* shield that a woman puts up acts as a filter for that alpha male who won't back down after encountering it, but I've seen a larger abundance of women, who stick their noses up (particularly ones that aren't attractive), who smile at you but act cold (or ignore you) when you approach, who move like their models even though their size 16s and up, and of course, more women who flake.

Has anyone noticed this over the past couple years? I've spoken to a few other guys that are a couple years older than I and they agree they've seen a change in behaviour too. Currently, I'm thinking that it may be due to the rise of social media, which wasn't as widespread 5 years ago. A large number of orbiters through twitter, facebook, instagram, tinder and so on may be causing this, or, a rising belief men have to grovel at a woman's feet (which I think is unlikely).

Any counter arguments or thoughts are welcome, because I'm not sure if it's only me that is experiencing this.

*Also, general rudeness, I've had 2 or 3 women add me on facebook, message me then ignore my reply but respond when I then mention their ignorance, and even men who don't respond to a msg I've sent, but tell me when I see them that they got my text/facebook message. Why not reply then? Annoying, but I'm seeing more of it. This is what leads me to think it is to do with social media.

 

[JoeMarron]

Social media isn't the problem, it's the dudes on social media that's the problem. Remove pvssy starved supplicating men out of the equation and entitled women cease to exist.

 

[cervantesscthree]

For being cold when just meeting them, they may be quiet and insecure, or they may truly be b1tchy. Get them interacting and if they just don't respond, you may need to improve your appearance or just find other women who are not quite so b1tchy.

I have encountered some real b1tches before and nearly been in fights because of it. Other times, girls are super friendly and so happy that you approach them. However as an overall trend, I would have to say that yes they do seem to be getting worse as far as the b1tchiness goes.

Oh yeah I have FAR more positive responses than bad overall, an I'm neat in my appearance, workout, good clothes (which is opinion but the fit is half the item if you know what I mean), I was specifically highlighting the increase of b1tchiness I've noticed. Although I have forgotten about the possibility of them being quiet and insecure, thanks for reminding.

I move on from flakes asap, and ones with low interest so I would always advise it. Funnily enough I've never nearly been in a fight because of bad attitude (rather because of bfs or baby dads that I was never informed of).

I thought it couldn't just be me noticing a change.

Social media isn't the problem, it's the dudes on social media that's the problem. Remove pvssy starved supplicating men out of the equation and entitled women cease to exist.

Couldn't have been said better.

 

[Atom Smasher]

The media has destroyed women. Utterly destroyed them.

Women used to have societal constraints that they willingly adhered to because they had somewhat of a moral compass and knew that these constraints were right. They have been brainwashed by their beloved, sacred Media for decades now and any trace of a moral compass (which is provided by MEN, btw), has been wiped out.

They only morality that they adhere to is the morality of whatever emotion they're feeling at the moment. The result is true insanity and departure from reality.

The powers behind the media long ago learned how to destroy men, making them weak, afraid, ineffective and above all else, quiet (afraid to make waves). They did it by destroying the carrier or "host" of men's god - the almighty Pvssy.

Those who have swallowed the red pill understand this, and have not succumbed to (or have awakened from) the hypnotic spell of the mass media. Women are entirely incapable of ever awakening from this spell. They need men to enlighten them in order to have even a remote chance of walking away from the media brainwashing that has swallowed them up.

 

[cervantesscthree]

I think I understand you here but how has the media destroyed women to that extent? This may sound naive but why would they want to destroy men? Hasn't feminism been working on this already or are you referring to a feminist media?

And utterly destroyed sounds a bit harsh but only when you think about the fact there are people out there (and those on the forum) who have met great women, and could very well be with one now.

Although, despite the only serious (short) attempt I ever made at a relationship being pretty much easy going, she did have some issues with the appearance of other women that I knew, fretting that I would cheat or whatever, but at the same, time she would be in contact with other guys (even if minimal) through her phone & twitter yet would feel cheated whenever I did the same. Not sure if this experience relates to what yr saying but it might, if you provide a clearer explanation of what yr saying

 

[backbreaker]

I see what the OP is trying to say he just did not do a good job of saying it


yes, on it's face, people are finding sex with women. people are being put in relationships with other people. however men have lowered the bar that any man worth a **** would find the avg woman today repulsive.


social media has made the avg woman stupider, denser, more impatient, more spoiled and more self entitled. however at he same time they have made men come to expect this type of behavior as NORMAL

i saw one of my wife's GF's get in damn near a fist fight with her BF because he would not update his facebook relationship status. apparently this is **** normal women fight about now lol. if a woman every brought some silly **** up to me like that i would block her and never call her again.

i'm glad i got out lol and i'm glad i am married to who i am married to. I mean, you can overcome it but the only way to overcome it is to SPIN PLATES IN MASS QUANTITIES UNTIL YOU FIND A SANE WOMAN but the advice on this forum is so inaction oriented that's not going to happen anytime soon

 

[Jaylan]

Ignorant women are on the rise because stupid supplicating men are on the rise. If more men did like backbreaker suggested, things would be a lot better. Chick acts out of line? Walk. Simple.

 

[Skyline]

I think I understand you here but how has the media destroyed women to that extent? This may sound naive but why would they want to destroy men? Hasn't feminism been working on this already or are you referring to a feminist media?

I went on my facebook and this is literally the first thing I saw:


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Person and 184 others like this.

Your gorgeous )
February 11 at 9:57am · Like · 1

Wow gorgeous as always
February 11 at 9:58am · Like · 1

Beautiful sweety
February 11 at 10:07am · Like · 1

Put them boobs away!!!! Lol
February 11 at 10:12am · Like · 1

You ****ing cute and sexy
February 11 at 10:13am · Like

You always looking so beautiful. miss seeing you around [campus]
February 11 at 10:25am · Like · 1

stop burning me!!! YOU ARE TOOOO HOT! lol
February 11 at 10:50am · Like · 1

Beautifullll
February 11 at 10:57am · Like · 1

Damn ;*
February 11 at 2:51pm · Like · 1

Daanng kalli(;
February 11 at 3:18pm · Like · 1

you are beautiful
February 11 at 6:03pm · Like · 1

Damm
u so sexy grl
February 18 at 10:51am · Like

wow.......speechless......xxx
February 25 at 8:04am · Like

^ Those are the comments from a girl on my facebook- all of them are guys commenting. Looks and body wise, she's about an 8. Quality wise, probably 1.5, the stuff she posts is anything from quality. This sense creates a very strong ego for an individual, some may also call this attention wh*ring. I know this because I am guilty of this "ego luring" in the past when I was an AFC. Not only this but there are also countless other images and "Quotes" that basically deprive power from men and hand it over to women. Rarely ever do you see an image/quote where it dictates from a man's opinion, and I mean a real man not a man-gina.

Obviously there is always that select bunch that isn't subject to this, but most BPD or girls with significant issues are absorbed in social media. It's not necessarily a deal breaker, but it is generally a red flag.

I forgot who said this but: "Most girls who are low quality don't even know that they're low quality because of all the gratification and attention they get."

 

[VladPatton]

Definitely related to this whole social media bullshıt! Just like Frayzer said, they get massive amounts of likes just for taking an Instagram photo of their fresh turds. What do you think this makes them feel like? It gives them a euphoric state of mind. They feel like rock stars. They feel just like the stars they adore. Some of these girls on Instagram have more followers than an actual A-list actor/actress. That's fücking insane!

So here comes you, a mere mortal who knows not of who they are. You know nothing of the 12,000 likes they receive daily, and nothing of the 956,000 followers, friends, or Twitter-ites they are addicted to. And you want her number? You wanna do a cold approach? Good fücking luck! That bıtch won't even notice you because she's too busy Twittering or Instagramming on her iPhone. Please!

Throw in a nice serving of feminism into their vapid minds of a caldron and you get today's modern woman. All filler, no killer.

For us, who deal with the realities of redpillness, have a shiat-load of screening to do. It's just the way it has to be, or you'll never keep your head above water in the dating world.

All in all, dating in 2014 sucks a big fat cὀck!

 

[El Payaso]

Ignorant women are on the rise because ignorant men are on the rise. You can't have one without the other. Demand and supply. You have more vapid women on the rise because men have demanded more vapid women. Directly or indirectly.

 

[skinnyguy]

I went on my facebook and this is literally the first thing I saw:


[image]
Person and 184 others like this.

Your gorgeous )
February 11 at 9:57am · Like · 1

Wow gorgeous as always
February 11 at 9:58am · Like · 1

Beautiful sweety
February 11 at 10:07am · Like · 1

Put them boobs away!!!! Lol
February 11 at 10:12am · Like · 1

You ****ing cute and sexy
February 11 at 10:13am · Like

You always looking so beautiful. miss seeing you around [campus]
February 11 at 10:25am · Like · 1

stop burning me!!! YOU ARE TOOOO HOT! lol
February 11 at 10:50am · Like · 1

Beautifullll
February 11 at 10:57am · Like · 1

Damn ;*
February 11 at 2:51pm · Like · 1

Daanng kalli(;
February 11 at 3:18pm · Like · 1

you are beautiful
February 11 at 6:03pm · Like · 1

Damm
u so sexy grl
February 18 at 10:51am · Like

wow.......speechless......xxx
February 25 at 8:04am · Like

^ Those are the comments from a girl on my facebook- all of them are guys commenting. Looks and body wise, she's about an 8. Quality wise, probably 1.5, the stuff she posts is anything from quality. This sense creates a very strong ego for an individual, some may also call this attention wh*ring. I know this because I am guilty of this "ego luring" in the past when I was an AFC. Not only this but there are also countless other images and "Quotes" that basically deprive power from men and hand it over to women. Rarely ever do you see an image/quote where it dictates from a man's opinion, and I mean a real man not a man-gina.

Obviously there is always that select bunch that isn't subject to this, but most BPD or girls with significant issues are absorbed in social media. It's not necessarily a deal breaker, but it is generally a red flag.

I forgot who said this but: "Most girls who are low quality don't even know that they're low quality because of all the gratification and attention they get."

Yep.

And the thing is, hot women post on FB a lot more than ugly women do, so the hot women are getting worse. They are going to be completely entitled as long as social media is around.

You have two choices: 1) Drop your standards or 2) Deal with this bullish*t. I Think that there is a way to deal with women in such a way that makes you come across as indifferent to how they are acting, and they might find that attractive. Of course, they need to find you physically attractive first if you want to get your foot in the door. If you have social status or fame, this will always improve your chances with women, and if you're REALLY famous, this stuff won't even bother you. Channing Tatum could careless about FB wh0ring, cause he knows he can just walk into a room and women will flock to him.


At the end of the day, the negative attitude will kill your chances with women. Instead, have a positive attitude, and go in thinking that the women are quite lucky to be with you. You'll realize that the FB attention wh0ring won't get to you that much, because you'll be a lot more confident with yourself.

 

[cervantesscthree]

This has really cleared things up, and of course dealing with it, being indifferent to it and maintaining a positive attitude is the only way to deal with it, I'm very aware that.

I and many others will always up the game, improve ourselves and constantly be optimistic, but it's hard not to think where all of this attitude and behaviour will lead to...

I don't want to pity the beta but it occurs to me, what about the guy who hasn't got game? Doesn't know about it? How on god's earth are they supposed deal with the increasing number of women with severe egos?

Okay we could say fvck those guys and keep doing what we're doing, but this sh*t is troubling. One of my friends has settled for a woman 3 months into her pregnancy (and no it isn't his kid, the dad's long gone), I've had women openly tell me they've cheated on their boyfriends several times because they're puss*es but seen no issues with sticking with him afterwards, a friend of mine contemplated suicide after his fat gf threatened to leave him, another mate of mine with a body like the hulk has settled for a girl with rolls on her stomach. I could go on but everyone here knows what's happening, it's just hard to deal with the fact that things could get even worse in time because of men who supplicate, and supplicate because they think it's the right thing to do, unknowingly creating the type of woman that will cause them problems further down the line if not already.

What's the future? Playas monopolising the majority of beautiful women while betas (and other genuinely decent guys) scramble for the left overs?

 

[cervantesscthree]

I don't but I knew at least one person was going to say that! Glad you found the thread worth commenting on.

 

[Atom Smasher]

^^^

Fixed that for you, in bold.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Danger again.

 

[sambwoy]

social media has made the avg woman stupider, denser, more impatient, more spoiled and more self entitled. however at he same time they have made men come to expect this type of behavior as NORMAL

On the subject of attraction, okay, having standards is one thing, but when there's no attraction, some girls can't even make light of it. They can avoid you like you're diseased, and maybe psychologically and emotionally abusive. I sense many TV dating shows play on this concept, the media being the w****s they are. It's all one-sided.

Would a guy be smug about the girl she's dating towards a 'low value' girl and play on her anxieties? ('Look at how 'hot' my GF is. Not like you' and [insert worse comments here]')

It astonishes me that wolf-whistling at girls STILL gets society angry (not that I knew many 'blokes' in my circles who did that), and yet when some (sometimes intoxicated) girls and/or their cliques do the same thing, or even worse, the reaction 'ah. its what girls do. You should respect that'. In fact, its almost demanded.

My god...these days with what we face I get really annoyed when people tell me to cheer up. Do they think I want to be negative and annoyed? The only thing that can keep me sane is the will to carry on.

 

[Turuwal]

Use Tinder to even up the balance of power

Yes social media has made women more over-validated than at any time in history. However there is an app called Tinder which would appear to move the balance of power back to men slightly. I have been using it for a week and have been matched almost 20 cute women. And I'm not even that attractive, although I do have an extremely sexy photo.

Anyway, when you get that kind of success on Tinder it allows you to turn the tables on women with their legions of followers and orbiters available at a moment's notice on their phones. You would not believe the look of sheer frustration on a HB's face when she is trying to get my attention in real life while I am messaging other women on Tinder. If they are a Tinder user it would be ever worse for them due to the distinctive sounds the app puts out on messages and matches.

Of course the same phenomenon you mention will be at play on Tinder as well. This is where you will use your non-supplication and other essential DJ skills to make yourself stand out.

The only thing I can say which is obvious obvious obvious is field test your photos. Use each one for say a few days, click like on every single person (for a greater sample size), count exactly how many people you have clicked, then calculate your percentage. You can't use female opinions or facebook to test your photo. My best photo got only one comment (albeit from a super cute chick) and one like (from my mum!) when I put it on my profile on facebook. Probably because all my female orbiters and male friends were intimidated by it.

 

[HoneyHitter]

Ignorant women are on the rise because stupid supplicating men are on the rise.

I believe in turning negatives into positives.

If we could get 10,000,000 guys to unfriend ALL WOMEN on their facebook ON THE SAME DAY. Would that make a good enough wake-up call? :box:

Or maybe at least just temporarily DEACTIVATING their accounts.

 

[JohnChops]

I'm glad I found SS when I did, now I dot put up with crap like this. My current gf and I never fight but my friends and their gfs fight about the DUMBEST CRAP. All their gfs want my friends to buy them sh1t, my buddy pays for his girlfriends GAS TO! He uses to get women by the buckets to until he fell into the "she's the one" crap. Ugh.

Horrible.

And my other friend fights about dumb **** to. I don't get it.

Honestly, I see that crap on Facebook and I just troll girls like that for lols but it's crazy. It's always some dude who thinks complimenting will get them laid in fact he's just another phaggot whipped by pu$$y who won't get sh1t other than a hug.

Also does anyone else feel posting scandalous pictures on Facebook + compliments is positive reinforcements for women to keep doing this and thinking it is okay??

 

[Atom Smasher]

however men have lowered the bar that any man worth a **** would find the avg woman today repulsive.

social media has made the avg woman stupider, denser, more impatient, more spoiled and more self entitled. however at he same time they have made men come to expect this type of behavior as NORMAL

Words of wisdom.