"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If your wife threatens a divorce, how do you handle?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
oboman
Don Juan
Hello all,
Thanks to your tips and words of advice. What you gave me helps clear my head and calm me down. My wife and I are now divorced. The shocking part is I defaulted and what she did was signed my divorce paper. I told this to my lawyer, and I don't know what's going to happen. I don't want to get her in trouble.
She doesn't want me to see my daughter much, and all I want is to see my daughter more. I am now seeing my daughter at her parents' place.
She ignores me when I asked about my daughter's medical condition, which I'm worried. My daughter has a serious reaction to certain food, which makes the skin on her face extremely red rash. She doesn't return my phone calls when I call to ask about my daughter's condition. I know she ignores me on purpose.
2 week ago, while I was working, I received a phone call from her. I was in the middle of work, so I didn't pick it up. I thought, strange, why would she call me? 30 seconds later, she called again, I picked up. "You need to meet with me. I'm doing passport for our daughter," she said. She sounded urgent. I thought, why is she making passport for our daughter? So I asked. "I'm going on a vacation," she said.
Me: "Where?"
Her: "Canada"
Me: "Where in Canada? How long?"
Her: "Why do you have to interview me? Do I have to tell you which hotel I'm staying too?" She was yelling by this point. Mad.
Me: "If you're taking my daughter with you, I have the right to know where she's at."
Her: "**** you!" She hung up.
I thought she might have planned to take my daughter out of the country and not come back. I got scared because she never goes on vacation, and now she's doing it. Then, I went on internet to do research. I learned that the state department will not grant passport, unless both parents are present. I felt better, relieved.
My lawyer has to reopen the case to settle child support and child custody and visitation. I found that the document filed has recent gotten to court recently. She will soon receive letter from the court. When she called me about the passport, she didn't know yet I was working with a lawyer.
My lawyer said, I will first be appearing in front of a mediator to resolve our issues.
I would hope that the fact she forged my signature will damage her credibility to the mediator and the judge.
Any suggestions or advice?
Thanks to your tips and words of advice. What you gave me helps clear my head and calm me down. My wife and I are now divorced. The shocking part is I defaulted and what she did was signed my divorce paper. I told this to my lawyer, and I don't know what's going to happen. I don't want to get her in trouble.
She doesn't want me to see my daughter much, and all I want is to see my daughter more. I am now seeing my daughter at her parents' place.
She ignores me when I asked about my daughter's medical condition, which I'm worried. My daughter has a serious reaction to certain food, which makes the skin on her face extremely red rash. She doesn't return my phone calls when I call to ask about my daughter's condition. I know she ignores me on purpose.
2 week ago, while I was working, I received a phone call from her. I was in the middle of work, so I didn't pick it up. I thought, strange, why would she call me? 30 seconds later, she called again, I picked up. "You need to meet with me. I'm doing passport for our daughter," she said. She sounded urgent. I thought, why is she making passport for our daughter? So I asked. "I'm going on a vacation," she said.
Me: "Where?"
Her: "Canada"
Me: "Where in Canada? How long?"
Her: "Why do you have to interview me? Do I have to tell you which hotel I'm staying too?" She was yelling by this point. Mad.
Me: "If you're taking my daughter with you, I have the right to know where she's at."
Her: "**** you!" She hung up.
I thought she might have planned to take my daughter out of the country and not come back. I got scared because she never goes on vacation, and now she's doing it. Then, I went on internet to do research. I learned that the state department will not grant passport, unless both parents are present. I felt better, relieved.
My lawyer has to reopen the case to settle child support and child custody and visitation. I found that the document filed has recent gotten to court recently. She will soon receive letter from the court. When she called me about the passport, she didn't know yet I was working with a lawyer.
My lawyer said, I will first be appearing in front of a mediator to resolve our issues.
I would hope that the fact she forged my signature will damage her credibility to the mediator and the judge.
Any suggestions or advice?
oboman
Don Juan
I know without my daughter's passport, she can not take my daughter out of the country. If the passport agency allowed presignature, she would have forged my signature, as she did on the divorce paper. What happened for divorce paper, I didn't want a divorce. Her parents literally begged me to not sign the paper. So, I told her I don't want a divorce and I'm not signing any paper. I couldn't believe the ***** forged my signature and turned it in. The next thing I found was a judgement and a declaration that we are divorced as of May 2nd 2010.
I wonder if anyone here has had such horrible thing happen to them. Please share.
I wonder if anyone here has had such horrible thing happen to them. Please share.
Tictac
Banned
Obo,oboman said:
In most jurisdictions, forgery is a serious thing. That she forged a document subject to a legal proceeding should constitute contempt of court, also a serious matter.
Your attorney should press both forgery and contempt of court to the hilt. If he won't, seek additional legal advice or change lawyers. Her fitness as a mother went out the window with these actions. Use this without mercy. Protect only your daughter and yourself. DO NOT ALLOW YOUR DAUGHTER TO GET A PASSPORT.
As for the Canadian 'vacation', it may be attempted kidnapping. But that may be difficult to prove. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pursue this. Even if you cannot prove it, it should have bearing on your divorce case. So make sure that it comes up in whatever divorce proceedings come up.
Stay strong for our daughter and you,
Tictac
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Saw a news blurb not long ago about a woman doing that to some guy in the Army and getting remarried. He gets back and is like WTF?! Now she's facing jail time for perjury and whatnot.oboman said:
My only advice is to report it as a fraud and get her strung up on perjury charges.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
Oboman, it's time to stop being civil.
She FORGED your signature, which is considered against the law in most places... and it's not like she forged your signature for a field trip or for a "D" she got on a mid-term... she forged your signature on a legally binding contract that could forever shake the foundations of your life...
And if she did it once, she'll do it AGAIN.
SHE WILL DO IT AGAIN.
Challenge this now and stop this pvssy behavior of: I don't want to get her into trouble.
Screw this broad.
At this point, you have to do what's best for YOU and your CHILD, not your ex-wife. She most probably is trying to move to Canada, who knows... I think it's time to grow some balls and pursue this forgery.
Who knows how many other things she'll just forge your signature to.
It's time to man up. If you don't, you might never see your child again.
She FORGED your signature, which is considered against the law in most places... and it's not like she forged your signature for a field trip or for a "D" she got on a mid-term... she forged your signature on a legally binding contract that could forever shake the foundations of your life...
And if she did it once, she'll do it AGAIN.
SHE WILL DO IT AGAIN.
Challenge this now and stop this pvssy behavior of: I don't want to get her into trouble.
Screw this broad.
At this point, you have to do what's best for YOU and your CHILD, not your ex-wife. She most probably is trying to move to Canada, who knows... I think it's time to grow some balls and pursue this forgery.
Who knows how many other things she'll just forge your signature to.
It's time to man up. If you don't, you might never see your child again.
ATX1001
Don Juan
Stop playing nice guy and go HARD. I played nice guy in my divorce, she didn't pull any punches and in the end she got everything - actually more than everything since I was left with debt after paying my lawyers bills. I was left with some assets, but I got all the debt.
I also got slapped with a 12 month intervention (restraining) order on the basis of her lies, she accused me of having child porn on my computer (and reported this to the police) and contacted child services and claimed that I was mistreating my daughter when I have her. None of this is true and I never thought in a million years that should would do any of this.
In short, tell the court that she forged the documents, send her to jail and get you child contact sh*t sorted out immediately.
I also got slapped with a 12 month intervention (restraining) order on the basis of her lies, she accused me of having child porn on my computer (and reported this to the police) and contacted child services and claimed that I was mistreating my daughter when I have her. None of this is true and I never thought in a million years that should would do any of this.
In short, tell the court that she forged the documents, send her to jail and get you child contact sh*t sorted out immediately.
sodbuster
Master Don Juan
She CANT take the kid out of the country without YOUR permission. I have to get a notarized document every time we travel abroad. Get your lawyer and hang the b1tch. Fraud,etc. etc. You will never get back together-and now that you know who she is, Why would you want to?