"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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I notice too many guys, especially the youngsters too caught up in women and nothing else. If you don't believe my words just sit back and ponder all your efforts you have put into a woman, all the energy of thinking about a certain girl.

The roles of a man and a woman have changed. Women focus on other things because they know the guys will chase them. What happen to the days when men focus on their careers and goals because they knew the woman will chase them?

It is high time for all of us to break out of this failure cycle of chasing women, of chasing the dangerous thing called a vagina. Successful men have no worry or focus on women because they know women come regardless because it is in a woman nature or should I say magnetic attraction to men who have things going for them or successful men.

Right now you are nothing, you have nothing to offer to the planet. You are wasting away energy when you can use those thoughts to bring forth something great to the world or to others instead of thinking of some woman who cares nothing for you because her phone are full of prospects.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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they are part of the equation (an important one) but only that. life has much more to offer.
 

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ImprovingJuan said:
they are part of the equation (an important one) but only that. life has much more to offer.
They are big part of the equation if you are married to them, because then that person becomes half of you.

If she is not your wife then she is a small equation of your life. I mean so small that your so caught up in your own journey you barely realize she is in there. You don't need her, but if she is there enjoy her.

Thanks BB
 

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you get in shape you take care of your finances you get your wardrobe game right you are not going to have a problem at all finding a woman unless you are retarded or butt ass ugly.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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maybe some of us guys don't want to waste our youth, sexual prime and sexual peak years, which are 20's and early 30's for us guys usually
 

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JaegerPilot217 said:
maybe some of us guys don't want to waste our youth, sexual prime and sexual peak years, which are 20's and early 30's for us guys usually

Your 20's and 30's are vital for your future, and trust me if you use it just chasing tail, your life is going to be hell forever. There is no happy ending to that game. The proof is all around you.
 

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This is probably one of the best posts so far on sosuave. 100% truth.

The sad part is as correct as you are, I think it will take a long time to turn the tables on a major level.

Not enough men will read this, and not all the ones who do will apply it.
 

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Fatal Jay said:
Your 20's and 30's are vital for your future, and trust me if you use it just chasing tail, your life is going to be hell forever. There is no happy ending to that game. The proof is all around you.
the irony being that with all the talk about being alpha, nothing probably epitomizes what a beta is than a guy who is more concerned about putting his **** inside a woman than he is securing his own well being for the rest of his life.


there really are more important things than just sex.

the funny part of it is, if you really get analytical about it all it's the stupidest ****ing thing ever

your value as a male is at it's lowest when you are probably 21-25. and instead of turning a negative into a positive, using that time to build value, you are more concerned about wasting time trying to get laid. I'm not saying getting laid is wrong. getting laid is why we are here. but 21-25 it shoudl be about the 5th thing on you rmind. learning how to eat right, taking care of your body, learning your craft that will put food on the table for the rest of your life, developing your own personality should be 1-4.

so you are willing to give up those 4 years to chase tail "because it's your prime" so then you turn 25 and the guys who did the **** they were suppose to do, have a leg up on you and will have a leg up on you for the rest of your life. you will never be where that 25 year old is if he does what he is supposed to do

so at least the 25 year old who took care of business, is now starting to see the momentim shift to his side. but you on the other hand, now instead of getting passed up for jocks and frat boys, now you are fighting for skanks and left overs fro guys who have their **** together

then at 30 you decide you know what, maybe i need to do something to make my self more valuable / earning more money / ineed a career. now you are 30 and you are trying to do what the 21 year old did 9 years ago lol. now he's 30 and he's going out 2-3 nights a week, he has a whip, he has a crib, he's got girls. and you are in school, busting your ass, and dateless. Or worse you are dealing with overweight baby momma's on POF to try to boost your ****ty ego. needless to say if you had done what you were suppose dto do for those 4 years yo would have been where you are supposed to be but you are still at the bottom of the barrel.


if you are luckly by the time you are 35-38 you have a career now, and now you are finally on somewhat even playing field but even now you can't command the 21 year old who did what he was supposed to do 15 years ago.

he bit the bullet and did what he is supposed to do and now he will swim in ***** for the rest of his life if he has his **** together . you on the other hand are chasing the 8 ball.


get your **** together. get your **** together. get your **** together. yes it is ****ed up women do not have to have their **** together to get laid. tough cookies lol. the women I am accustomed to sexing require men to have their **** together.

not only that, once i got my **** together the quality of woman went up 10 fold. my wife would not have given me hte time of day pre **** together. she barley gave me a chance when i HAD it together lol.


you wnat to know how you stop dealing with facebook skanks?become a man that demands/ commands more than that.
 

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backbreaker said:
the irony being that with all the talk about being alpha, nothing probably epitomizes what a beta is than a guy who is more concerned about putting his **** inside a woman than he is securing his own well being for the rest of his life.


there really are more important things than just sex.

the funny part of it is, if you really get analytical about it all it's the stupidest ****ing thing ever

your value as a male is at it's lowest when you are probably 21-25. and instead of turning a negative into a positive, using that time to build value, you are more concerned about wasting time trying to get laid. I'm not saying getting laid is wrong. getting laid is why we are here. but 21-25 it shoudl be about the 5th thing on you rmind. learning how to eat right, taking care of your body, learning your craft that will put food on the table for the rest of your life, developing your own personality should be 1-4.

so you are willing to give up those 4 years to chase tail "because it's your prime" so then you turn 25 and the guys who did the **** they were suppose to do, have a leg up on you and will have a leg up on you for the rest of your life. you will never be where that 25 year old is if he does what he is supposed to do

so at least the 25 year old who took care of business, is now starting to see the momentim shift to his side. but you on the other hand, now instead of getting passed up for jocks and frat boys, now you are fighting for skanks and left overs fro guys who have their **** together

then at 30 you decide you know what, maybe i need to do something to make my self more valuable / earning more money / ineed a career. now you are 30 and you are trying to do what the 21 year old did 9 years ago lol. now he's 30 and he's going out 2-3 nights a week, he has a whip, he has a crib, he's got girls. and you are in school, busting your ass, and dateless. Or worse you are dealing with overweight baby momma's on POF to try to boost your ****ty ego. needless to say if you had done what you were suppose dto do for those 4 years yo would have been where you are supposed to be but you are still at the bottom of the barrel.


if you are luckly by the time you are 35-38 you have a career now, and now you are finally on somewhat even playing field but even now you can't command the 21 year old who did what he was supposed to do 15 years ago.

he bit the bullet and did what he is supposed to do and now he will swim in ***** for the rest of his life if he has his **** together . you on the other hand are chasing the 8 ball.


get your **** together. get your **** together. get your **** together. yes it is ****ed up women do not have to have their **** together to get laid. tough cookies lol. the women I am accustomed to sexing require men to have their **** together.

not only that, once i got my **** together the quality of woman went up 10 fold. my wife would not have given me hte time of day pre **** together. she barley gave me a chance when i HAD it together lol.


you wnat to know how you stop dealing with facebook skanks?become a man that demands/ commands more than that.
seems that's all us guys are pretty much valued for, our job, career, stability, where were headed in life or what were doing in our life, goals, dreams, ambitions, etc. Yup, tough cookies again, besides, we won't have our youthful looks forever though, our metabolic rate decreases as we age so it makes it harder to lose weight and stay in shape, yes even if our looks don't matter as much as a womans does, having it still helps your game better, George Sodini couldn't get that young tail and he had his **** together, made decent money.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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backbreaker said:
the irony being that with all the talk about being alpha, nothing probably epitomizes what a beta is than a guy who is more concerned about putting his **** inside a woman than he is securing his own well being for the rest of his life.


there really are more important things than just sex.

the funny part of it is, if you really get analytical about it all it's the stupidest ****ing thing ever

your value as a male is at it's lowest when you are probably 21-25. and instead of turning a negative into a positive, using that time to build value, you are more concerned about wasting time trying to get laid. I'm not saying getting laid is wrong. getting laid is why we are here. but 21-25 it shoudl be about the 5th thing on you rmind. learning how to eat right, taking care of your body, learning your craft that will put food on the table for the rest of your life, developing your own personality should be 1-4.

so you are willing to give up those 4 years to chase tail "because it's your prime" so then you turn 25 and the guys who did the **** they were suppose to do, have a leg up on you and will have a leg up on you for the rest of your life. you will never be where that 25 year old is if he does what he is supposed to do

so at least the 25 year old who took care of business, is now starting to see the momentim shift to his side. but you on the other hand, now instead of getting passed up for jocks and frat boys, now you are fighting for skanks and left overs fro guys who have their **** together

then at 30 you decide you know what, maybe i need to do something to make my self more valuable / earning more money / ineed a career. now you are 30 and you are trying to do what the 21 year old did 9 years ago lol. now he's 30 and he's going out 2-3 nights a week, he has a whip, he has a crib, he's got girls. and you are in school, busting your ass, and dateless. Or worse you are dealing with overweight baby momma's on POF to try to boost your ****ty ego. needless to say if you had done what you were suppose dto do for those 4 years yo would have been where you are supposed to be but you are still at the bottom of the barrel.


if you are luckly by the time you are 35-38 you have a career now, and now you are finally on somewhat even playing field but even now you can't command the 21 year old who did what he was supposed to do 15 years ago.

he bit the bullet and did what he is supposed to do and now he will swim in ***** for the rest of his life if he has his **** together . you on the other hand are chasing the 8 ball.


get your **** together. get your **** together. get your **** together. yes it is ****ed up women do not have to have their **** together to get laid. tough cookies lol. the women I am accustomed to sexing require men to have their **** together.

not only that, once i got my **** together the quality of woman went up 10 fold. my wife would not have given me hte time of day pre **** together. she barley gave me a chance when i HAD it together lol.


you wnat to know how you stop dealing with facebook skanks?become a man that demands/ commands more than that.
Great post. If a man stays focus his value doubles if not triples with age. You notice the correlation when a woman starts off with high value and then it decrease with age. With a man ( a successful focus man) it will only grow.
 

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I wholeheartedly agree with this.

As men, we have essentially become slaves to puss. We aren't happy if we aren't getting any, which leads to further unhappiness.

Many of us will jeopardize our finances and health to get some. It's a downward path.

The one thing that WILL make you happy in life is if you have a passion. I'm really good at public speaking and have excelled at it my whole life. When I'm speaking in front of a crowd, I'm "the man" and very few people are better than me at it.

Some guys are passionate about sports…others, music or writing. Whatever it is, have a FOCUS in life (other than women) and think about it when you wake up and go to bed. This is what ultimately will make you happy.

What we fail to realize, is that even though that chick in the black dress and heels might look pretty, she can in fact bring us great misery. However, your passion will not bring you misery…it will only bring you further happiness.
 

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backbreaker said:
you get in shape you take care of your finances you get your wardrobe game right you are not going to have a problem at all finding a woman unless you are retarded or butt ass ugly.
Backbreaker, you're posting some good sh*t lately. However, you're routinely exceeding the site's 10 asterisk limit. ;)
 

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JaegerPilot217 said:
seems that's all us guys are pretty much valued for, our job, career, stability, where were headed in life or what were doing in our life, goals, dreams, ambitions, etc. Yup, tough cookies again, besides, we won't have our youthful looks forever though, our metabolic rate decreases as we age so it makes it harder to lose weight and stay in shape, yes even if our looks don't matter as much as a womans does, having it still helps your game better, George Sodini couldn't get that young tail and he had his **** together, made decent money.
Well, if we were women mostly all that would matter would be our looks, so at least we can improve. Women have to play the cards they are dealt. Also, they lose their looks a heckuva lot faster than men do. There's a lot of crying on this forum about all the advantages women have when it comes to dating, but we have some things going for us, too. I wouldn't trade being a man for being a woman. For one thing, who the heck wants to suck d!ck, lol?

Anyway, George Sodini was a pretty messed up individual, I wouldn't use him as an example of what is possible.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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seems that's all us guys are pretty much valued for, our job, career, stability, where were headed in life or what were doing in our life, goals, dreams, ambitions, etc.
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]you say that like this is a negative thing


at least i can CONTROL those things. what if you are a woman and born butt ugly lol?


why would i be mad beucase a woman likes me for **** that i can 100% control? throw in going to the gym, man come on
 

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Well if a mans value truly increases with age by what is mentioned here, the real question is when is he too old to date or attract women in their 20's?(especially early 20's women)
 

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JaegerPilot217 said:
Well if a mans value truly increases with age by what is mentioned here, the real question is when is he too old to date or attract women in their 20's?(especially early 20's women)
I would say when he LOOKS significantly over say 33.

Every female is different, but looking young is key.

Money isn't a total replacement for youth. Hot matters more to a 22 yo chick than $$.

No doubt that a 40 year old businessman has a lot of value. Of course he does.
But it would mean MUCH more to a 28 to 35 woman than a 19 to 23 yo woman. The young one would rather F a tatooed 24 yo bartender than a 40 yo executive.

People value different things at different points in their life.
 

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95% of my posts are about the topic of this thread.

I'll quote myself from a previous post:

3agle 3yes said:
...The type of women a man attracts is based on how much he values HIMSELF.

The problem with many guys is that they are ALREADY in an unhappy place where they DON'T value themselves and they are attracted to forums like these because they believe dating and fvcking beautiful women will fill the "void" and make them feel valuable.

The newbies can take it from me, it WON'T.

What you have ISN'T what you are, what you have is BECAUSE of what you are.

This is why it is FUNDAMENTAL to work on yourself (yes, actually ignore women IF it helps).

If you work on yourself, your own perceived value goes UP...and like I said, the man a woman attracts is based on how he values HIMSELF.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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