"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If you were mistakenly smothering, or showing too much affection..........

Falcon25

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How do you get back the frame?

Long story short, I have seen this girl for about six weeks, we haven't had sex cause I think she has feelings for someone else. But I screwed this up by showing too much affection. I'm not American, I come from a different culture where I grew up with affection and showing affection with everyone in my life. So it's hard to not be affectionate with women for me. But this one is complete opposite. How and is it too late to get the frame back after this text conversation;

Long story short, I tried to kiss her, she pulled away. Flipped the fuvk out...I had hugged her and I will admit that I am all over her, but I am like that with every girl. I don't think she is interested, she has stopped the making out and everything, but this post is more for future women that will enter my wonderful life.

Me; What's your fuvking problem now?
Her; You don't respect my space
Me; What? Fuvk are you talking about?
Her; Too much affection, too fast (though we have been "seeing" each other for more than six weeks
Me; You got it, from now on you don't get shivt from me
Her; ok
Me; You wanna be friends or something? What is your deal?
Her; I did not say that, I'm not comfortable with how affectionate and pushy you are with me
Me; Cool.


Haven't called or talked to her since. I usually meet girls who like affection. All I did was a hello kiss and a goodbye kiss. I'm pissed at this. Any opinions? What do we do with this one gentleman? I'm fuvking done with this shivt. Very upset.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Prepare to be admonished by the posters on this sight the likes you have never seen.
 

Falcon25

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I'm ready. Fuvk it. Admonish me. I may have fuvked up, but how do we fix this? For this one and the next.
 

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Use the common denominator theory. If you show every woman you date affection and only ONE isn't liking it, you are not the problem.

Its likely she has some self-esteem issues. Many Women who have been sexually abused don't like to be touched.
 

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Give as you get is going to be your best bet and never as much as her. Sounds like this one thinks you are needy. Just like the saying of let her say I love you first. Sounds like you learned a valuable lesson. The woman you mention sounds kind of bytchy to me.... Just saying.

I have learned the lesson the hard way as we all have. But it is what you take from the lesson is the main thing. Hard to give a full run down because I do not know the whole story as you only gave a brief snapshot on a small conversation. I will let others bash you, but in my opinion, you had enough of the a$$ kicking from Ms. Iwantspace.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Now is a good time to move on and get with another girl to get her jealous. It would make her go, "damn, I regret saying and doing all those things to him".
 

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what do you mean by "seeing"?

too me kinda seems like you maybe had been all over her from the begining? you were really friendly with her in the beginning and it became annoying because you were not creating attraction, just being touchy.

OP said "Me; What's your fuvking problem now?" like shes had problems before this one

If my theory is wrong then ya shes seems a bit crazy, cut your losses
 

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Listen to me.
I'm in this place right now.

Trying not to want her, you lose.
Trying to want her, you lose.
Not wanting her, you win.

I won't give you specific advice about the girl because I'm more interested in the situation at large and so should you.
Be content without her and contentment with her will naturally follow.

To answer your question, you get back your frame by not bending.
This literally means you tell her exactly what you want and exactly what you don't want, but I can already tell she isn't going to feel the same.

However, you need to accept nothing less of what you want and if that means fuc>ing it up with a girl you like, then do it.
You'll feel awesome.
 

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Wow thats bull**** man.

Ditch this situation. A normal girl will be all over you and trying to bring up exclusivity and relationship nonsense. Imagine a girl saying your going too fast when you get affectionate and kiss her after 6 weeks. Cold heartless ho has no interest in you at all, probably either has a husband or a penis.
 

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Falcon25 said:
I'm not American, I come from a different culture where I grew up with affection and showing affection with everyone in my life. So it's hard to not be affectionate with women for me.
I'm the same. It's natural for me to be affectionate. If some chick doesn't like that, she can leave.

In fact, the one I dated who reacted the same as your current girl turned out to have been sexually abused, like Desdinova said. She has a serious intimacy issue.

You may want to tone down your affectionate self a little bit when dealing with the typical American girl though. They generally come from a very cold family and a passionless culture compared to yours, and will misread your natural affection as you being way too much into them. Calibrate & make them earn it. That's what those affection-deprived creatures want.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Falcon25 said:
How do you get back the frame?

Long story short, I have seen this girl for about six weeks, we haven't had sex cause I think she has feelings for someone else.
Why are you seeing this girl if you think she has feelings for someone else? If this girl isn't into you, kick her to the curb and find a girl who is.

But I screwed this up by showing too much affection. I'm not American, I come from a different culture where I grew up with affection and showing affection with everyone in my life. So it's hard to not be affectionate with women for me.
It's okay to be affectionate, but you have to keep escalating the affection. It seems to me that you've been showing a lot of affection from the beginning but now you've waited 6 weeks to finally escalate to the next level. If you wait too long a girl is going to stop seeing you as a lover and start thinking of you as a friend.

If you've been regularly seeing this girl for 6 weeks, you've waited way too long for the kiss close.
 

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Sounds like my ex before I "cracked" her open...run for your life buddy!!
 

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Havent heard from her since Fri, guess this one is done. Who would have thought that affection would be a turn off. It was a hello kiss, haha WOW
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Falcon Your Looking For A Quick Fix And Thats Not Gonna Help You U Need To Study And Read The Dj Book And Let It Soak In Your Posting Way Too Much And That Why Your Not Gona Get Smart Good Answers Read The Book My Man
 

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Dubh said:
Falcon Your Looking For A Quick Fix And Thats Not Gonna Help You U Need To Study And Read The Dj Book And Let It Soak In Your Posting Way Too Much And That Why Your Not Gona Get Smart Good Answers Read The Book My Man
And you should read a book about grammar and not capitalizing every g'damn word.
 

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No, we were making out and doing everything but sex a month ago.
haha that doesn't add up at all. Ignore the *****. Another case of mind-games from the crazy woman, how did I not see it...


She probably wasnt sexually abused in that case, she's just a bit weird, the message is still the same, move on find another girl.

Its a all a game at the end of the day, less is more and only give level to what you receive.
 

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haha that doesn't add up at all. Ignore the *****. Another case of mind-games from the crazy woman, how did I not see it...


She probably wasnt sexually abused in that case, she's just a bit weird, the message is still the same, move on find another girl.

Its a all a game at the end of the day, less is more and only give level to what you receive.
Hey bro,

She did mention she was abused by an ex boyfriend when she was younger. But I'm sorry, you don't go from making out to "too much too fast" like that. I haven't heard from her. It's a lesson learned. Never show affection early. NEVER.
 

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Ease said:
Wow thats bull**** man.

Ditch this situation. A normal girl will be all over you and trying to bring up exclusivity and relationship nonsense. Imagine a girl saying your going too fast when you get affectionate and kiss her after 6 weeks. Cold heartless ho has no interest in you at all, probably either has a husband or a penis.
That's what what I thought
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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