If You Are Hot Enough, You Can Do No Wrong

[steelpulse]

If you want to know where you stand on the attractiveness scale, ask yourself one simple question: 'how many mistakes can I make and still have her coming back?'

'Mistakes' can include the following:

1. talking about taboo and/or 'creepy' topics
2. forgetting her name
3. telling her about other women you are dating
4. flirt with other girls in front of her
5. ignore her for long periods of time
6. tease her or insult her
7. cheat on her
8. kiss other girls
9. dance with other girls

Think about any violation of 'blue pill rules.' The more times you can ignore or violate conventional rules, the higher your ranking in the hierarchy.

Categories:
-if you are average or below average, none of this will bother her in the slightest, you are 'off scale' (not even being considered for dating)
-if you are a little above average, she will silently write you off

-however, if you in the 'top tier' she will either let it go (minor) or become angry then forgive you, or 'break up' with you then come back to you claiming any further violation she will walk.

 

[jnMissouri]

If you want to know where you stand on the attractiveness scale, ask yourself one simple question: 'how many mistakes can I make and still have her coming back?'

'Mistakes' can include the following:

1. talking about taboo and/or 'creepy' topics
2. forgetting her name
3. telling her about other women you are dating
4. flirt with other girls in front of her
5. ignore her for long periods of time
6. tease her or insult her
7. cheat on her
8. kiss other girls
9. dance with other girls

Think about any violation of 'blue pill rules.' The more times you can ignore or violate conventional rules, the higher your ranking in the hierarchy.

Categories:
-if you are average or below average, none of this will bother her in the slightest, you are 'off scale' (not even being considered for dating)
-if you are a little above average, she will silently write you off

-however, if you in the 'top tier' she will either let it go (minor) or become angry then forgive you, or 'break up' with you then come back to you claiming any further violation she will walk.

Totally agree. I think game can help in some or even a lot of situations. I have heard though that some hot guys have trouble with women. It was mentioned by a few guru's in their training materials. You can be hot but if you are needy that's still a turn off.

I think I'm attractive, women check me out a lot, compliment my looks, etc. But where I have historically struggled is as soon as I open my mouth or tried to make a move on them. Now with some concepts and techniques, I do WAY better, though I am not so good looking that I can afford a lot of mistakes or anything. Far from it.

You know the same can be said for having a lot of money to some extent. I have A LOT of money, and women are generally initially VERY interested, but I've noticed a lot of times that interest tapers off after a few emails, texts, etc.

I guess we should all wish were born 10's.

 

[tanchinos]

I wonder about looks a lot and how hotties can get shortcuts in life. I think my parents who have been raised to be work-concious, because of the system, are looking out for jobs for me and I am all for working, but they may never understand how it feels being a man being pushed out into a society that is also (and has) rejected him in the same breath, or that women have been nurtured to be without the same responsibilities put on men. My generation of girls/women were utterly revolting, society was getting to a point then when boys/men were starting to get disrespected and females' standards were heightening because society always worked in their favour. If only there was someone there back then who told me to at least lower my expectations..

 

[zekko]

I can't say I know what it's like to be so hot that you can do no wrong (wouldn't mind trying it for awhile lol). But I imagine it's similar to dealing with a high interest girl, she puts you on a level in her mind where you can hardly do any wrong.

I think my parents who have been raised to be work-concious, because of the system, are looking out for jobs for me and I am all for working, but they may never understand how it feels being a man being pushed out into a society that is also (and has) rejected him in the same breath, or that women are without the same responsibilities put on men

The work force is difficult. Some people are in a position to get things handed to them (who they know or who they are related to). But for most of us, you really have to go out there and TAKE what you want, or it isn't going to happen for you.

 

[guru1000]

Depends on how low you are dipping. With most 6s and 7s, I can disappear, ignore, and be egregious or outrageous in my behavior and they’ll still chase.

With most 9s this won’t work as there’s other high value men in her orbit that will feed or calibrate to her ego. Whereas for the 6 or 7, my very presence in her world feeds her ego.

It’s relative.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I tried this out as an experiment. I was talking to two girls who I knew found me attractive. Couple of other people in the group too. Made a crude, offensive remark. The two girls both dropped their jaws and a moment of uncomfortable silence. Someone else expressed shock. And then the two recovered and we were merrily chatting away like nothing happened.
Another girl who’s was in to me, I kept (unintentionally) forgetting details of her life and she kept having to remind me. Eventually she got pissed off and gave up on me.

 

[17 shots]

Depends on how low you are dipping. With most 6s and 7s, I can disappear, ignore, and be egregious or outrageous in my behavior and they’ll still chase.

With most 9s this won’t work as there’s other high value men in her orbit that will feed or calibrate to her ego. Whereas for the 6 or 7, my very presence in her world feeds her ego.

It’s relative.

This... times a billion

And usually the women who stick around after you do whatever you want are bat **** crazy

 

[lamath]

If you want to know where you stand on the attractiveness scale, ask yourself one simple question: 'how many mistakes can I make and still have her coming back?'

'Mistakes' can include the following:

1. talking about taboo and/or 'creepy' topics
2. forgetting her name
3. telling her about other women you are dating
4. flirt with other girls in front of her
5. ignore her for long periods of time
6. tease her or insult her
7. cheat on her
8. kiss other girls
9. dance with other girls

Think about any violation of 'blue pill rules.' The more times you can ignore or violate conventional rules, the higher your ranking in the hierarchy.

Categories:
-if you are average or below average, none of this will bother her in the slightest, you are 'off scale' (not even being considered for dating)
-if you are a little above average, she will silently write you off

-however, if you in the 'top tier' she will either let it go (minor) or become angry then forgive you, or 'break up' with you then come back to you claiming any further violation she will walk.

I dont completely agree on this.
When you just met its easier to reject a hotter women, but once you have hook up it might be harder.

 

[SoSuave666]

If you want to know where you stand on the attractiveness scale, ask yourself one simple question: 'how many mistakes can I make and still have her coming back?'

'Mistakes' can include the following:

1. talking about taboo and/or 'creepy' topics
2. forgetting her name
3. telling her about other women you are dating
4. flirt with other girls in front of her
5. ignore her for long periods of time
6. tease her or insult her
7. cheat on her
8. kiss other girls
9. dance with other girls

Think about any violation of 'blue pill rules.' The more times you can ignore or violate conventional rules, the higher your ranking in the hierarchy.

Categories:
-if you are average or below average, none of this will bother her in the slightest, you are 'off scale' (not even being considered for dating)
-if you are a little above average, she will silently write you off

-however, if you in the 'top tier' she will either let it go (minor) or become angry then forgive you, or 'break up' with you then come back to you claiming any further violation she will walk.

Not all of what you have listed are "mistakes." Ignoring a girl, teasing her, flirting with other girls, etc can all be effective tools in gaining attraction, not lowering it. Bonus points if she finds out on her own you are "seeing other people" (but have not had the exclusivity talk with her).

In general life is easier for attractive people. It has always been this way and will always be this way. Make yourself as attractive as possible (physically) and always be working on the other things that will raise your smv: hobbies and work. Women should not be a lifelong pursuit, ever.

 

[bigdave17]

my co worker is a solid 8.5 to 9 - tall, NW0 hairline with perfect hair, very good face, solid beard. Just classic Chad


does horrible with women as he's awful on dates

 

[zekko]

And usually the women who stick around after you do whatever you want are bat **** crazy

I don't know about that, but they certainly have issues to deal with. A woman certainly should not stand around for being disrespected or abused. That suggests she's damaged.

does horrible with women as he's awful on dates

This is the second time recently I've seen such a remark. If a guy does horrible with women, is he really a Chad? I thought being a Chad suggests a he does well with women, not just that he's good looking.

 

[17 shots]

I don't know about that, but they certainly have issues to deal with. A woman certainly should not stand around for being disrespected or abused. That suggests she's damaged

Damaged, issues to deal with... that's the same as crazy to me lol

 

[The Duke]

The other night I was out with a buddy who is a solid 8-9, late 30's. Tall, dark, handsome, beard, broad shoulders, v-shaped. He was standing next to me and this mid 20's HB9 comes up and starts grinding her ass on him. She carries the entire conversation and was trying so hard to generate his interest. She even asked him for the phone number.

This dude was really clueless and failed to open up. He had it served to him on a silver platter and didn't execute very well. This girl walked away feeling a little rejected.

During the interaction I told a good story that women always love to hear, especially nurses. Afterwards my buddy told me those girls ate that story up and wished he knew how to say things to draw women closer. When you rely on your looks to get you thru life, you fail to develop other skills that make a huge impact on your success with people. All about being a good salesman and having good social skills that allow you to have successful interactions with people. I see this with pretty girls too. Sometimes I think thats why they don't make good long term choices.

The only time this happens to me is with a girl that is below me on the looks scale. I have to work for it but in the end I am happy it is that way.

 

[bigdave17]

The other night I was out with a buddy who is a solid 8-9, late 30's. Tall, dark, handsome, beard, broad shoulders, v-shaped. He was standing next to me and this mid 20's HB9 comes up and starts grinding her ass on him. She carries the entire conversation and was trying so hard to generate his interest. She even asked him for the phone number.

This dude was really clueless and failed to open up. He had it served to him on a silver platter and didn't execute very well. This girl walked away feeling a little rejected.

During the interaction I told a good story that women always love to hear, especially nurses. Afterwards my buddy told me those girls ate that story up and wished he knew how to say things to draw women closer. When you rely on your looks to get you thru life, you fail to develop other skills that make a huge impact on your success with people. All about being a good salesman and having good social skills that allow you to have successful interactions with people. I see this with pretty girls too. Sometimes I think thats why they don't make good long term choices.

The only time this happens to me is with a girl that is below me on the looks scale. I have to work for it but in the end I am happy it is that way.

socializing is extremely easy. Your buddy probably makes it more difficult than it is

show genuine interest in a girl, her life, her interests, etc... without wanting anything in return. They eat that sh*t up. Coming across very genuine like that while being comfortable with yourself is all you need

my struggle is I don't get any opportunities like that

 

[The Duke]

socializing is extremely easy. Your buddy probably makes it more difficult than it is

show genuine interest in a girl, her life, her interests, etc... without wanting anything in return. They eat that sh*t up. Coming across very genuine like that while being comfortable with yourself is all you need

my struggle is I don't get any opportunities like that

You have to make most of those opportunities happen yourself. Just like closing deals while selling cars. You gotta hustle. You go to them.

 

[jnMissouri]

Not all of what you have listed are "mistakes." Ignoring a girl, teasing her, flirting with other girls, etc can all be effective tools in gaining attraction, not lowering it. Bonus points if she finds out on her own you are "seeing other people" (but have not had the exclusivity talk with her).

In general life is easier for attractive people. It has always been this way and will always be this way. Make yourself as attractive as possible (physically) and always be working on the other things that will raise your smv: hobbies and work. Women should not be a lifelong pursuit, ever.

I agree with this, but will add emphasis that she MUST find out on her own that you are dating other women.

It was implied with one girl I was dating recently since I hardly ever texted her, rarely made plans esp on weekends since I was putting women I was sleeping with first, etc.

Then one day I told her I was seeing other women and boom. She got hurt and backed off.

 

[bigdave17]

You have to make most of those opportunities happen yourself. Just like closing deals while selling cars. You gotta hustle. You go to them.

still it's incredibly frustrating to see these men who get so many easy opportunities and I can't even get 1, unless she is over 30 or has kids or some other nonsense

my co worker has 100+ matches on bumble and does nothing with them, dude is just a complete imbecile and is very awkward around women...but doesn't matter cause he is 6'1, white and good looking.


Some of this nonsense is just due to me not being white. If I was still in Armenia, I would be considered a chad back there. I've literally never seen an Armenian man significantly better looking than me. Most aren't even comparable to me. It's so frustrating

 

[MillionBillionaire]

my co worker is a solid 8.5 to 9 - tall, NW0 hairline with perfect hair, very good face, solid beard. Just classic Chad


does horrible with women as he's awful on dates

He can completely turn around all his problem with women with one week of solid seduction study ...

Other guys like myself have to work much .. much harder.

 

[bigdave17]

He can completely turn around all his problem with women with one week of solid seduction study ...

Other guys like myself have to work much .. much harder.

Social anxiety is hard to break

but I agree, the hardest part of dating is getting a woman interested in you. If I had 2 dates with decent women, I would have a long term girlfriend in a week. I'm very very good on dates

I got absolutely nothing with online dating. I meet zero women in my daily routine and cold approaching is very hard.

 

[The Duke]

still it's incredibly frustrating to see these men who get so many easy opportunities and I can't even get 1, unless she is over 30 or has kids or some other nonsense

my co worker has 100+ matches on bumble and does nothing with them, dude is just a complete imbecile and is very awkward around women...but doesn't matter cause he is 6'1, white and good looking.


Some of this nonsense is just due to me not being white. If I was still in Armenia, I would be considered a chad back there. I've literally never seen an Armenian man significantly better looking than me. Most aren't even comparable to me. It's so frustrating

A good friend of mine is Armenian and struggles with hot white girls. Mexican & Persian girls love him tho.