If you are a westerner, you are missing out if you dont move to south east asia (phillipines, vietnam, thailand)

[SmoothSmooth]

In your own thread, please just stop embarrassing yourself. I would respect you a lot more if you didn't go around lying.

Game is mainstream.

Firstly I want to say that ‘game’ is more mainstream than ever. There is this idea that ‘game is dying’, which is completely untrue. PUA culture from the 2000s is dead, but that has nothing to do with game. PUA did not invent game; PUA was initially BASED on studying the behaviour of men that...

www.sosuave.net

Where do I claim to have dated as an 8 year old????

I said women are the same in all decades of human history. 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 200 years ago.
Please quote where I said I dated as an 8 year old

I can’t imagine your life. Dating feminists that you can’t bang, posting about it online, and then spending the next day ‘trying’ to embarrass a stranger on an Internet forum. Hahaa

We’ll wait for you to quote where I said that. Enjoy your day

If you can find that quote - I will gladly delete my account. But no; you can’t and you’re either going to go quiet or change the topic

 

[manfrombelow]

Cope? You literally made a post about going on a date with a feminist and how you would marry her; even though you’ve only been on one date and haven’t slept with her LOL your opinion is irrelevant. we are in completely different realities

I have been to Japan. And I have had 3 women ask to take pictures with me in Japan. One of them stalked me for 30 mins before mustering up the courage to ask me. Were they the hot women that are used to dating affluent alpha males? No. An 8/10 Japanese woman is going to be dating big shot Japanese doctors and business men, or natural Chads in Japan. They can take a trip to the USA with ease if they wanted. I met a few 8/10 women in Japan, in upscale nightclubs - and they treated me with suspicion and required as much game as any Western girl would. Definitely saw one of them leave with what appeared to be a feared gang member. I actually ended up spending my trip with an Australian girl who was also on holiday - she was hotter than most the girls I saw there.

As mentioned, the halo effect is for dirt poor women, ugly/average women, or women that exclusively want your money/passport

Btw - the feminist you went on a date with is the same girl cooking for me on the first date

Well said and you got my 100% agreement bro.

 

[Bigpapa]

Well you do raise a good point, we could also argue that these "men" also ruined western women with their constant simping.

Everyone else pays the price for this, I've personally wanted to escape the west for more traditional marriage minded women (my background is eastern European so I've never really liked western culture) but I feel like simps have ruined there too.

simping is as a big threat as pollution is

like I have stated numerous times , the man is the sole responsible for whatever happens within society on large scale : war , crimes , feminism etc

guys Might not like it , but feminism and stuff like that happens due men becoming weak and simps

and guys instead of trying to fix whatever they have broken in the first place , they go to sh1t hole countries and to prostitutes . The irony is that they even brag about what they do

 

[metalwater]

if your only ticket to getting laid is to go to the poor countries , and play the social status it means that you failed miserably in life .

taking this into consideration , I am also aware that for some even though they will improve themselves , it will not be enough . Mainly having way inferior genetics . Like having a mix of being under 1.70 m , ugly face , worthless to society , etc . For this I understand the idea that they have to go to this remote countries in order to get some action

But … this is desperation and nothing more . There is nothing noble in going to a sh1t hole only because you can not get laid . So let”s not give more credit to this thing

this is really twisted.

do you actually know the topic or only what you have heard?

why do you think like this?

red pill itself is born from desperation... of failure. desperation is the mother of all improvement and invention.

what is the damage you think happens or what is the concern that leads you to have such a negative view of this thing? what are the negative effects to anyone about this? It's one less man competing for the other women that you prefer so it makes the most sense to encourage it. however, you would shame a man for finding a way. shame on you, that's what a girl does that is dismissed.

 

[Bigpapa]

this is really twisted.

do you actually know the topic or only what you have heard?

why do you think like this?

red pill itself is born from desperation... of failure. desperation is the mother of all improvement and invention.

what is the damage you think happens or what is the concern that leads you to have such a negative view of this thing? what are the negative effects to anyone about this? It's one less man competing for the other women that you prefer so it makes the most sense to encourage it. however, you would shame a man for finding a way. shame on you, that's what a girl does that is dismissed.

red pill is about how really life is , and how to use it in your advantage to reach your potential .

red pill it is not about a bunch of guys whining that life is unfair

coming back to this topic , women whine while men do something to not be as bad as it is

what you talk about is continuous vaginization of the penis . The same thing that put men in the situation they they are now , and for sure it will get worse as guys try to come up with different theories on why it is not their fault , instead of doing something about it

this things that you call red or black pill only poison the mind of men even more than it is now

 

[B80]

You literally have women walking up to average white guys asking for a photograph.

Just lol at guys like @Genetic Error @SmoothSmooth trying so hard to cope.

Sadly, that is not a true reflection on Asia at all. Yeah, you may get more attention, but those pics/video aren't normal at all.

I was out in se Asia for a year or so over 15 years back. I didn't find them particularly attractive before being with them In person, but there are plenty of attractive ones once out there. Particularly as most are slim/petite.

The ones that show keen interest will generally be lower class, half pro girls from poor regions. The higher class less brown ones, will be a much tougher proposition as negative connotations for the women being seen with western men.

They're incredibly street wise and know the score. Desperate white men are child's play for them, they can read people like a book and know how to play the game.

I went back to a few their apartments, surrounded by photos of their western 'husbands' who probably thought by paying rent and sending money each month would secure their loyalty... I think it's a pair bonding thing, once they've been used to sleeping with high volumes of men, living the bar lifestyle or pursuing high volume of men online or in traveller areas, they're corrupted and you're taking big risks in your future by trying to tie one down. There was an old cliche of you can take the girl out the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl. Kind of similar to what men on here say about girls who've slept around or met a lot of men online. Become spoilt goods.

Imagine it's even tougher now (securing loyalty) what with the whole online thing... so much more choice. World is a much smaller/bigger place depending how you see things. We re no longer white knights, exotic men they have limited knowledge of.

Defo negative connotations back in west of it too ime. Heard a lot of throwaway comments from men and women about guys that travel out there frequently or declare having distance relationships from certain areas. You may not care, but don't kid yourself that many people won't be judging your position in a negative light to different degrees.

 

[metalwater]

red pill is about how really life is , and how to use it in your advantage to reach your potential .

agree!!

what you talk about is continuous vaginization of the penis . The same thing that put men in the situation they they are now , and for sure it will get worse as guys try to come up with different theories on why it is not their fault , instead of doing something about it

There is a whole spectrum in this topic.

Take a lower SMV man that perhaps has good value outside of SMV. I know it's difficult for some to think about that, but it is something that occurs. Literally, everyone involved in such a situation where a poor Asian girl and such a man wins, big...

The point is that this situation is not eviler than PUA vs married women or rotations based on false pretenses. There are some ugly setups in that spectrum but not any worse than what occurs in big cities in the west. The ugly has different details, but the same level of ugly.

These men that are the topic of this have exactly done something about it. Some do really well and some not so much.

What I can not yet understand is why some men tell that it is bad for a man to go with women that they think are attractive and that the women are attracted to them or to the SMV that they can present. We tell men to go with women that want them, then we find a situation like this where many women want them and tell the men it's bad.

so why is it bad?

Maybe the idea is that if the man's needs are met, he will not learn. Come on, we have men hanging around for years that learn but do not have the innate ability to apply the knowledge. All men are not created equal. We can sit around and cry about it or learn more reasons why it sucks. Or go meet up with some cuties that make it easy. After all, is not that the whole point of self-improvement so that life will be easier and more enjoyable. Yet a clear path to doing that is shamed.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

If that's true then how come every time I go to Southeast Asia I get kokblocked by a short brown broke guy with a small dik?

Cuz he has a small dik and have to compensate for that. lmfao

 

[SmoothSmooth]

The real red pill is that there NEVER WAS an ‘exotic smv advantage’ in being a white western man in poor counties

1) Lots of countries harbour resentment towards the west.
2) Being a western man looking for women in poorer countries makes you look like a desperate failure in your own country. You think people are clueless and idiots? Most of people in third world countries have better social Intuition and social skills than us because they aren’t raised on social media. They can read you easier than you can read them.
3) the only time you look high smv/exotic is if the women immigrate to America first and THEN choose you.
4) race has very little to do with smv in any scenario. This pedestalizing of white as ‘superior’ only exists in the minds of weird social outcasts. Only people dealing with self hate will assume another race is better than theirs. People tend to be neutral when it comes to race and sexiness - it comes down to how they feel about the individual. The proof is in how lots of American women now like many black celebs for example, and black features are very different to white ones (hair; nose; face shape) Guys like michael b jordan, anthony Joshua, Lewis hamilton, drake have more sex appeal than George Clooney and Tom Cruise in the modern era to many white women. It’s never been about race. Alpha is Alpha. Many Chinese women watch Chinese shows with Chinese actors; same with Indian women and Bollywood or Korean and K pop. They have enough exposure to know that race isn’t correlated to how wet a man makes them. And money has never made a man automatically high value to a man - girls don’t automatically find Billionaires SEXY, even if they marry them. Evidence - Jeff bezos, bill gates etc. If a billion is not enough to effectively seduce a woman in the west, your little online job is not different in the third world.

This exotic race smv theory is the biggest beta cope ever. Women are not idiots. Do you think western leaders like Boris Johnson and Joe Biden are admired by women around the world because of their race? To women, there is a huge difference between a 8/10 man and 4/10 man in ANY RACE CATEGORY. And no 8/10 man from the west is looking for a wife in the third world.

Alpha is alpha. If you are an alpha in New York, you will be an Alpha in Korea.
I think this forum needs to start banning some of these low self esteem/black pill posters. Ideally only theories and advice from posters with experience should be taken seriously. This is meant to be SO SUAVE.

There ARE solutions to your problems, but instead of looking and learning, you want to vomit your emotions and low self esteem onto others, and corrupt the naive so they end up failures

As a so called ‘chad’, I had to spend years learning game and social dynamics because there is a huge difference between a woman being with you for comfort/social status/money and genuinely RESPECTING you as THE alpha. You clearly don’t understand this basic tenant of game if you think going to a third world country is a good strategy. Every girl in a third world country knows a woman or two who married a rich foreign beta. It’s not a new phenomenon, it isn’t a special thing and instantly makes you seem like a mark. Their DM’s may not show it but their hearts feel it.

 

[zinc4]

You literally have women walking up to average white guys asking for a photograph.

Just lol at guys like @Genetic Error @SmoothSmooth trying so hard to cope.

Bro that is common in China. They just think its cool and want to show of their pictures with a foreigner to their friends. It doesn't mean they want to bang you haha.

I have been to old dusty villages in China where so many of the locals were in shock to see a foreigner there and all crowded me for pictures. It didn't mean i could just go bang the girls who asked for the pics. There were men and elderly people asking for pics too. Going to rural places in China is well....a very interesting experience ha.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Bro that is common in China. They just think its cool and want to show of their pictures with a foreigner to their friends. It doesn't mean they want to bang you haha.

I have been to old dusty villages in China where so many of the locals were in shock to see a foreigner there and all crowded me for pictures. It didn't mean i could just go bang the girls who asked for the pics. There were men and elderly people asking for pics too. Going to rural places in China is well....a very interesting experience ha.

Exactly, most these women are teenagers that just will post it on Snapchat, in between posting their nails and next meal.
They won’t be thinking of you tomorrow.

If you do marry someone from a poor village, it will always be an elephant in the room.
Even if you somehow hide it, eventually she will realise when she sees how other women in the west respond to you, what your friendship circle looks like, your inexperienced dating history, your deep held insecurities and low self esteem beliefs etc

 

[Genetic Error]

You are kidding yourself. Ask me how I know.
You know nothing about women if you think that a passport and a visa will fix yiur issues.
Go ahead though dont say I warned you. Feminism is spreading like water in SEA

cope i get 2 messages on tinder in england. but 120 messages first in last 2 weeks from SEA girls simping for me

 

[Genetic Error]

The real red pill is that there NEVER WAS an ‘exotic smv advantage’ in being a white western man in poor counties

1) Lots of countries harbour resentment towards the west.
2) Being a western man looking for women in poorer countries makes you look like a desperate failure in your own country. You think people are clueless and idiots? Most of people in third world countries have better social Intuition and social skills than us because they aren’t raised on social media. They can read you easier than you can read them.
3) the only time you look high smv/exotic is if the women immigrate to America first and THEN choose you.
4) race has very little to do with smv in any scenario. This pedestalizing of white as ‘superior’ only exists in the minds of weird social outcasts. Only people dealing with self hate will assume another race is better than theirs. People tend to be neutral when it comes to race and sexiness - it comes down to how they feel about the individual. The proof is in how lots of American women now like many black celebs for example, and black features are very different to white ones (hair; nose; face shape) Guys like michael b jordan, anthony Joshua, Lewis hamilton, drake have more sex appeal than George Clooney and Tom Cruise in the modern era to many white women. It’s never been about race. Alpha is Alpha. Many Chinese women watch Chinese shows with Chinese actors; same with Indian women and Bollywood or Korean and K pop. They have enough exposure to know that race isn’t correlated to how wet a man makes them. And money has never made a man automatically high value to a man - girls don’t automatically find Billionaires SEXY, even if they marry them. Evidence - Jeff bezos, bill gates etc. If a billion is not enough to effectively seduce a woman in the west, your little online job is not different in the third world.

This exotic race smv theory is the biggest beta cope ever. Women are not idiots. Do you think western leaders like Boris Johnson and Joe Biden are admired by women around the world because of their race? To women, there is a huge difference between a 8/10 man and 4/10 man in ANY RACE CATEGORY. And no 8/10 man from the west is looking for a wife in the third world.

Alpha is alpha. If you are an alpha in New York, you will be an Alpha in Korea.
I think this forum needs to start banning some of these low self esteem/black pill posters. Ideally only theories and advice from posters with experience should be taken seriously. This is meant to be SO SUAVE.

There ARE solutions to your problems, but instead of looking and learning, you want to vomit your emotions and low self esteem onto others, and corrupt the naive so they end up failures

As a so called ‘chad’, I had to spend years learning game and social dynamics because there is a huge difference between a woman being with you for comfort/social status/money and genuinely RESPECTING you as THE alpha. You clearly don’t understand this basic tenant of game if you think going to a third world country is a good strategy. Every girl in a third world country knows a woman or two who married a rich foreign beta. It’s not a new phenomenon, it isn’t a special thing and instantly makes you seem like a mark. Their DM’s may not show it but their hearts feel it.

all the things i said are absolutely an advantage.

but also you are right about a beta in england is still a beta in SEA.

Imo life is 50/50 redpill/blackpill

but youre denying the blackpill right now about women wanting taller, bigger d1ck, white guys , money. STATISTICALLY this is what they want. moving to SEA DEFINITELY increases ur chances a lot

if i dont get an advantage, then explain how i maybe get like 3 girls message first on tinder in england. but then 120 girls message me first on tinder in SEA within 2 weeks simping for me

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Bro that is common in China. They just think its cool and want to show of their pictures with a foreigner to their friends. It doesn't mean they want to bang you haha.

I have been to old dusty villages in China where so many of the locals were in shock to see a foreigner there and all crowded me for pictures. It didn't mean i could just go bang the girls who asked for the pics. There were men and elderly people asking for pics too. Going to rural places in China is well....a very interesting experience ha.

go to any small BFE town in America and you will be stared at by the locals if they know you aren't from there especially if you are BROWN. Yall are dragging this shvt wayyyyyyy out of proportion. If you like going to mud huts and banging/wifing up rice paddy peasants than good for you, but do not act like you are some super start or tell people that they will get this treatment in a global city like Shanghai that has plenty of non ethnic Chinese living there.

 

[zinc4]

cope i get 2 messages on tinder in england. but 120 messages first in last 2 weeks from SEA girls simping for me

No cope haha .....i have banged a **** tonne of hot asian girls.....at one point i was running through 2 and sometimes even three chicks a day in Taipei, Taiwan using dating apps and clubbing every night. I went through a huge yellow fever stage. I dated a few top tier ones as well. It wasn't easy getting those though. I had to run some good social circle game. Luckily i was good friends with a guy who was very well connected with some wealthy locals there and we all started hanging out and clubbing in VIP booths a lot. Was smashing hb8s left and right. Trashy club girls though. But my goodness....i will never forget my adventures there....not just the women either...just everything about it. Beautiful island with tonnes of stuff to see and do. Probably my favorite place in Asia. X1000 better than mainland China which i got stuck in for years.


Taipei was an epic place to party before this silly pandemic hit. The women there are a lot hotter and more educated than SE asians imo.

 

[Bigpapa]

agree!!

There is a whole spectrum in this topic.

Take a lower SMV man that perhaps has good value outside of SMV. I know it's difficult for some to think about that, but it is something that occurs. Literally, everyone involved in such a situation where a poor Asian girl and such a man wins, big...

The point is that this situation is not eviler than PUA vs married women or rotations based on false pretenses. There are some ugly setups in that spectrum but not any worse than what occurs in big cities in the west. The ugly has different details, but the same level of ugly.

These men that are the topic of this have exactly done something about it. Some do really well and some not so much.

What I can not yet understand is why some men tell that it is bad for a man to go with women that they think are attractive and that the women are attracted to them or to the SMV that they can present. We tell men to go with women that want them, then we find a situation like this where many women want them and tell the men it's bad.

so why is it bad?

Maybe the idea is that if the man's needs are met, he will not learn. Come on, we have men hanging around for years that learn but do not have the innate ability to apply the knowledge. All men are not created equal. We can sit around and cry about it or learn more reasons why it sucks. Or go meet up with some cuties that make it easy. After all, is not that the whole point of self-improvement so that life will be easier and more enjoyable. Yet a clear path to doing that is shamed.

you also know that you will never bring that woman back , as she will dump you once she realizes where a guy sits in the society there ( plenty of stories around this subject ) .

which Leads me to the next thing , raising your family in a third world country . No matter if you will have a girl or a boy , they will have to deal with the same problems as the people already living there had to deal when you came

I really doubt that this is what you want for your children

to me , it seems that there are a lot of problems thst people do not think about

The effort that some guys are willing to put to have access to some average vagina it is crazy , and for sure it does not pays up

 

[Bigpapa]

go to any small BFE town in America and you will be stared at by the locals if they know you aren't from there especially if you are BROWN. Yall are dragging this shvt wayyyyyyy out of proportion. If you like going to mud huts and banging/wifing up rice paddy peasants than good for you, but do not act like you are some super start or tell people that they will get this treatment in a global city like Shanghai that has plenty of non ethnic Chinese living there.

first of all , Shanghai like any other global city is expensive .

for sure you will need a well paid job in order to live a comfortable life there

which leads to the next thing . If you would have a decent job ( basically not being a looser ) , yoh would still have a decent life in the west women wise

 

[Epicenter]

Where do I claim to have dated as an 8 year old????

I said women are the same in all decades of human history. 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 200 years ago.
Please quote where I said I dated as an 8 year old

I can’t imagine your life. Dating feminists that you can’t bang, posting about it online, and then spending the next day ‘trying’ to embarrass a stranger on an Internet forum. Hahaa

We’ll wait for you to quote where I said that. Enjoy your day

If you can find that quote - I will gladly delete my account. But no; you can’t and you’re either going to go quiet or change the topic

you also know that you will never bring that woman back , as she will dump you once she realizes where a guy sits in the society there ( plenty of stories around this subject ) .

which Leads me to the next thing , raising your family in a third world country . No matter if you will have a girl or a boy , they will have to deal with the same problems as the people already living there had to deal when you came

I really doubt that this is what you want for your children

to me , it seems that there are a lot of problems thst people do not think about

The effort that some guys are willing to put to have access to some average vagina it is crazy , and for sure it does not pays up

You will have other andvantages. It is written one million times about it.

 

[Bigpapa]

You will have other andvantages. It is written one million times about it.

What advantages ?

would you raise your children in Asia ?

Besides the work ethic that is close to being a robot , worse living conditions , no well paid jobs , and so on …

how would you feel if your boy would be an incel because some fat old men are banging the girls there ?

how would you feel if your girl would sleep with this old fat men from the west , that you know thst most likely they are loosers from were they come from

this things only generates more problems , as it is not intended for more than a couple of wild nights

 

[Epicenter]

What advantages ?

would you raise your children in Asia ?

Besides the work ethic that is close to being a robot , worse living conditions , no well paid jobs , and so on …

how would you feel if your boy would be an incel because some fat old men are banging the girls there ?

how would you feel if your girl would sleep with this old fat men from the west , that you know thst most likely they are loosers from were they come from

this things only generates more problems , as it is not intended for more than a couple of wild nights

There are big expat forums with millions of posts. I does work for some guys. If you are not interested in it why are you wasting everybodies time?