"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If ur not in the ljbf zone yet but...

Richmond69

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Ok if ur not necissarily in the ljbf zone but u know u probably would be if u pushed things with the girl what should u do? Like I know she likes this other guy (4 years older and outa hs) and they'll probably be dating soon. The best thing I think is just move on which I'm doing, but still what should I do about her in the meantime? Oh and there's like no way I can compete with this guy he's like a master dj. Any advice?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Black Dog

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If she LJBD'd you then you did yourself a favor and elimated one less girl from the dating pool. Or should I say one more girl? Idk.

Try it out dude, you got nothing to lose

but u know u probably would be if u pushed things with the girl what should u do?
C'mon what the hell kind of sh!t is this? You think she likes a guy and will be "dating soon?" That sounds very homo

My only advice is to stop overthinking shyat, like you're clearly doing; girls aren't algebra problems, but it sounds like you got some other issues going on that extend beyond this one, SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1. read The Game, awesome novel

2. Wash out the 'pick-up' line stuff when you're finished, IOIs also; I found so much confidence in myself with regards to social interactions, after reading that book. But at times the novel approaches life with a mechanical point of view, which you may have to put up with, in my case I was offered different points of view but I chose the less artifical, Sosuave dogma lmaooooooooo

3. Read the DJ bible, selected articles. You should probably focus on the articles geared towards confidence, masculinity, individuality. It would scrub that negative mentality of yours away
 

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killuminaty said:
lets just be friends
haha.... oh that makes sense. Ljbf is not horrible... Ive had women say that and a day later we're in bed. If a girl says this.. just tease her and move on. Seems most women just want our attention and too many guys will keep chasing/ kissing their ass when they get told this. If you do, you're just another orbiter that does everything she asks... but doesn't get anything back but "false hope" that she'll date you someday.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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thevilittletroll

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who cares if she ends up dating him, game her anyway. since you are young i'll tell you this. get used to trying to game girls that have other options. its not going anywhere, its a part of the game to become the best option.
 

Richmond69

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Alright so I should game her anyway? I wasnt sure but alright thx. Haha it's not that I was way overthinking it it was just I've heard about the "no contact" strategy as well and wasnt sure what to do. Haha black dog that did sound super gay I didn't mean it like that. Ive really been trying to figure out how to change my rep from afc to dj without looking like a complete fool. I'll look into what u said
 
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