"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"if u want u can come over." text?

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Friend of a friend. First date goes well. All good vibes, ends with a kiss. I drop her off.

Next night, texting as follows:

Me: Hahaha killer plan, I'm taking you with me next time. Just got to my friend's birthday party if you want to come out.

Her: Yes I will be your business partner. I'm with my family getting drinks for the night then going to sleep. If you're not busy tomorrow... movie night


Next night, more banter goes on for a while, eventually I ask because she wasn't bringing up the subject again

Me: is it still movie night?

Her: if u want u can come over.


She has always been so enthusiastic in our past exchanges, this is a definite change of tone. It seems so noncommittal, as if she doesn't want to hurt my feelings by saying no but at the same time doesn't really want me there.

Am I overanalyzing? Being a *****? Probably should just get over there and make it happen? Or pull back and make her chase, handle it the opposite of how most guys would as they'd probably jump at the chance in a heartbeat.

Forum, give me your wisdom. My (text) game sucks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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inviting you to watch a movie at your house? Definitely a lead into sex, at the bare minimum some make out, etc. She is inviting you into her space, there is nothing to read between the lines, she is saying "come over, im here, do me"
 

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I had a girl tell me the same exact thing a few months back. I had asked her if a certain weekend would work at her house to hangout. and she replied with exactly what you wrote. I took it as she's just not assertive/shy enough. So I just took charge.
 

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She just invited you to her house. What do you mean "pull back and let her chase"???

If you want, you can come over" is about as blunt as you can expect a girl to get. What were you expecting? Her to send a pic of her vag with a "Your d1ck goes here" sign?
 

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She probably wanted YOU to be more excited and is thus sad. Go over there and close the beeeatch! ha
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Mantis Toboggan said:
She just invited you to her house. What do you mean "pull back and let her chase"???

If you want, you can come over" is about as blunt as you can expect a girl to get. What were you expecting? Her to send a pic of her vag with a "Your d1ck goes here" sign?
lol
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
She just invited you to her house. What do you mean "pull back and let her chase"???

If you want, you can come over" is about as blunt as you can expect a girl to get. What were you expecting? Her to send a pic of her vag with a "Your d1ck goes here" sign?
ROFL! You know we're in bad shape in this forum when "you can come over" from a female leads to guys analyzing like if it was some engineering problem.

Female says "you can come over" = Take a nice shower, put on your best clothes, brush your teeth real well, put on some cologne, take some gum with you, take a condom or 2 and get in your car and take care of business don't waste no time! :D

That's pretty much it.
 

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Should just go over

Problem in the original post seems to be....too much texting. Seen this in a few posts, too much message/text conversation thats...kind of boring conversation, why is this conversation occuring? Girls like less in the way of messaging, they like space, they like to get a message and then lie in bed with a smile, not get another one and another one and another one, it makes each one less valuable.

she doesn't want to sit there texting you all day, she wanted a couple texts, make an arrangement, then see you. but the texts never stopped coming!

just go there (and stop it with the texting so much)
 

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Seriously man I hope for your sake she gives you a second chance...

Just reading the topic title made me scream FAIL in front of my PC, now everybody in my office is staring at me :(
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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lol this forum analyzes so much that you forget why u came here in the first place..

So this girl is holding my **** and rubbing it on her *****... should i make her chase or is this where i put my **** in her?... i dunno guys, what do you think?? is this a good thing?? I forgot why i came to this site.. was it to get laid or better myself or what?? What is a ****oris anyway? I mean REALLY? what is it... the dictionary says its at the crest of the labia.. but what is it.. do i touch it?? Why do guys have penis's and girls vaginas?
 

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dementia said:
lol this forum analyzes so much that you forget why u came here in the first place..So this girl is holding my **** and rubbing it on her *****... should i make her chase or is this where i put my **** in her?... i dunno guys, what do you think?? is this a good thing?? I forgot why i came to this site.. was it to get laid or better myself or what?? What is a ****oris anyway? I mean REALLY? what is it... the dictionary says its at the crest of the labia.. but what is it.. do i touch it?? Why do guys have penis's and girls vaginas?

amen, i was just about to write the same thing:trouble:

wanna split some hairs later ? my treat
 

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Do it. Even if it was obvious that she did not really feel like having your company, TAKE WHAT YOU WANT. It shows that you're confident, assertive, and most importantly, not a PVSSY.

Think like a pirate my friend.
 

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To all you guys trying to make it sound like just because she says come over means something is going to happen, pls. I've been there before, girl comes over to mine and I try to make a move on her she resists and i back away. She leaves texts me she had a good time and won't respond to my messages. All, the same to the OP I would say go because you never know.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Another example of why texting can be detrimental to game.

Seriously? How the f*ck can you tell what her mood is when she is using only 7% of communication called words?

jafyk said:
To all you guys trying to make it sound like just because she says come over means something is going to happen, pls. I've been there before, girl comes over to mine and I try to make a move on her she resists and i back away. She leaves texts me she had a good time and won't respond to my messages. All, the same to the OP I would say go because you never know.
You're obviously doing it wrong if she invites you over and then stops responding to your messages.
 

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Man you ****ed up.


















:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup: :crackup:
 

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one thing i can suggest you improve on is to ask out a little more indirectly. instead of "if you want to come out" say "it should be fun"...just a little thing i noticed.
 

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Mike32ct said:
She WANTS you to come over, but doesn't want to sound pushy or desperate so she included the "... If you want" qualifier.

Don't read this as low interest or her being non-commital. This is a good sign.
+2, 3 4 & 5.


Vice said:
jafyk said:
To all you guys trying to make it sound like just because she says come over means something is going to happen, pls. I've been there before, girl comes over to mine and I try to make a move on her she resists and i back away. She leaves texts me she had a good time and won't respond to my messages. All, the same to the OP I would say go because you never know.
You're obviously doing it wrong if she invites you over and then stops responding to your messages.
Jafyk should have persisted as that seemed to be a classic case of Last Minute Resistance (LMR), which a lot of the chaps on here forget about.

Simply give it a few minutes and try again, if there is a next time.
 

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jafyk said:
To all you guys trying to make it sound like just because she says come over means something is going to happen, pls. I've been there before, girl comes over to mine and I try to make a move on her she resists and i back away. She leaves texts me she had a good time and won't respond to my messages. All, the same to the OP I would say go because you never know.
The chances of that happening are slim though, bro. If a chick is inviting you to HER house, then it's obvious she is comfortable enough with you to have sex. Girls ain't stupid. They know what goes down in the dark.
If the girl in question is on some cat and mouse games like the one you listed, then forget her. I'd leave right there on the spot and not look back. If she wants you she will make it happen, or let you make it happen
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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