"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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If she says "having a girls night out"

YoungStunna

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girls night out is total bull$hit. About 2 weeks ago my cousin and 3 of her girl friends tell their bf's they are having a girls night out. My cousin who is single calls me and tells me to come meet them downtown and bring some "cute guys." The girls have a great time with my friends everybody exchanged numbers. I only think one of them is attractive and she tells my cousin she thinks i'm hot.

Last night they have another "girls night out" and again invite me. I go to meet them and my cousin whispers in my ear HB8 told her if she "wasn't in a LTR she would fvck me." Turns out in the last 2 weeks hb8 has been talking about me a lot and been asking my cousin to invite me out every time they hit the bars.

hb8 bf is out of the country and she is having a little get together at her house tonight and she invited me.

she told my cousin she would fvck me if she wasn't in a LTR but she is starting to make it obvious to me she is interested. My cousin told me the girls were expecting hb8 bf to propose soon since its been 4 years.

I don't want to make the first move. I want her to make the first move and have a ONS. too much to ask for? any advice?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Personally, I don't mess with women I know to have BF's so ill leave the advice to others but I did have to comment on something else you said...

Consensus among their group is that bf is going to propose soon? Does he know abput this? LOL Women truely do have balls like watermelons.
 

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Dom Dom I'm pretty sure I've seen you comment that you don't mess with girls in relationships before and that count as advice. Thanks, but are you saying you would reject her if she made the first move?

my cousin told that hb8 had a feeling like he was gonna do it and she was excited but he never did and now she is hoping he doesn't propose LOL!
 

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If I knew the bf, absolutely. In your situation, I would probably have to see what she looked like to tell you. LOL

So she thinks she's about to get proposed to and, so, when the potential fiance leaves town the first thing she wants to do is throw a party to get her friend's cousin to bone her?

And we are supposed to be the ones to watch. Broads never cease to amaze.
 

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The only responsible thing to do here is to bone her, document it, and then send proof the BF. You would actually be doing him a favour.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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She told my cousin should be hook up with me *if* she was single.

so there's a chance should would be loyal.........
 

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Sounds like she's rationalizing fvcking you. But will make it your fault if and when something happens. She doesn't sound loyal to her BF, its up to you if you want to take advanatge of it.
 

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If someone said that to my cousin, I would definetly pursue.

Lets be honest everyone of our wives, girlfriends do think about ****ing someone else occasionally but this girl just said it to her friend which is your cousin who told you. On a daily basis there are girls thinking about ****ing us.
 

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Plus she said it knowing that your cousin would most likely repeat it to you. Maybe she wants a reason to break up with her BF. Who knows whats going on in her chick brain. One way or another...she wants the D.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Danger said:
I have found myself in sooooo many of these circumstances.

From a morality standpoint, don't do anything.

From a non-morality standpoint, just continue to have game and fvk her. The keys to doing this involve two things. First you tell her proactively that nothing can happen between you two because you would be afraid someone would find out. Second you give plausible reason to see her again with no chaperones. Leave something there perhaps, or identify some reason for her to come to your place.

From a pragmatic standpoint, this is exactly why you do not get married in today's age.

I can see how telling her nothing can happen can tempt her to make the first move. Wise man.
 

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"She said she'd hook up with me *if* she were single". Right. She wouldn't say that unless she was completely down. Believe her actions not her words. Like was said already...she's trying to shift the blame to you and waiting for you to make the move. Morality wise...that's up to you. I don't cheat on girls, but i usually don't have a huge problem gaming girls with BF's. I guess my rationale is that she's going to cheat any way and if she's hot, it might as well be with you than some chump.

Keep in mind that a girl who is willing to cheat WITH you is willing to cheat ON you....but idk if that's really relevant because it's not like you two are looking for anything long term. Just a bang.

You could just go after other hotties in front of her when you go out. Then she might get real jealous and make the first move.

It's all up to you. Haha i guess it depends how hot she is honestly.
 

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"Girls night out" is a euphemism for a night of cawk and balls
 

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gravityeyelids I posted a pic of her... but you're right she would probably cheat on me that's why I would rather her stay with her bf and just have a ONS.
She has seen me with another girl before and kept asking my cousin if it was my gf because this girl was all over me. She def. got jealous. I'll keep making her jealous for now.
 

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GS750 said:
Plus she said it knowing that your cousin would most likely repeat it to you. Maybe she wants a reason to break up with her BF. Who knows whats going on in her chick brain. One way or another...she wants the D.

The chick told the OP's cousin to remove herself from blame and accountability with a layer of another person rather than herself directly and OP only.

She knows the OPs cousin will tell him and hopefully he'll take the hint and make the move rather than her doing it directly so she can then if gotten caught by her BF say: The O.P. came after me!" (as if she's an 'innocent helpless' chick) and hope her BF buys the BS while she either decides to then dump him for "not believing her" or whatever nonsense she can make up finger pointing and having her BF believe OP is the sole cause (as well as himself for not believing her.)

In which case this type of chick could care less about her boyfriend or the OP and would do the same thing to the OP if they were ever boyfriend/girlfriend ..meaning: "Just because OP fvcked some other dudes chick wouldn't make him the "man" as this same chick would do the same thing to OP with another dude if she were dating him instead.


Whatever you decide to do OP you need to realize this chick is nothing more than a jump off.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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