If people followed these simple rules, we could become better as a forum.

[ElStud]

This is particularly for the DJ Discussion Forum, but if more people followed the rules below, we'd become an overall better forum and have overall less trolls and KBJ's.

1. Do not talk about what you know nothing about.

I see this a lot particularly in my topics. If you don't know about something, do not give advice on it. If you've never kiss closed, don't give another person advice on kiss closing. If you've never gotten a number, don't give advice to someone on getting the number. It's simple, unless you've actually experienced something in field, do not give advice to others about it.

2. There's a line between criticism and hating and people on this board don't know it.

Yes, there's a line between criticism and hating. Criticism is giving people somewhat harsh advice, but it's meant to be productive. Yes, productive. Hating is what it is, straight hating on a person for no good reason. Like if a person has a completely good thread and you just come in there writing a post hating on the topic guy, that's hating. Also like advice, don't criticize a person if you have no idea what you're talking or are just a plain hypocrite.

3. If someone doesn't take your advice/criticism do not attempt to argue with them.

Simple, if someone doesn't take your advice or criticism do not attempt to argue with them. ESPECIALLY if you gave advice on something you clearly have no idea about. The mindset should be like this... person takes my advice great... person doesn't take my advice, it's no big deal. I see big flame wars spread from this, someone doesn't take advice and the person GIVING the advice starts the argument.

4. Don't troll perfectly good topics.

Don't troll perfectly good topics. But to understand this we must understand what trolling is. Trolling is posting something that has nothing to do with a topic. It's like if I had a thread about Mystery and seduction and someone goes "lulz did you see that new sex tape of Paris Hilton? it was hot lol". That's trolling. Trolling can also be posting random pictures of Steve Urkel in someones topic(MikeYikes). A troll can also be in the same realm as a KBJ, someone who acts like they go out, but don't.

5. Do not brag.

Don't brag in topics. Nobody cares how many f*cking girls you've laid especially when it has nothing to do with the topic. This could be considered trolling in some cases. Don't brag.

6. Don't hate on those who are actually going out.

For whatever reason you feel like hating on someone who's actually going out, don't. Because hate is the last thing we need on this forum. So don't hate.

7. Don't make assumptions about a person, if you do not know them or have little proof that what you're assuming is true, then don't make assumptions.

Simply put, don't make assumptions about a person. For instance, if you have no PROOF somebody's a nerd at their High School, don't say some sh*t like "You're probably a nerd". It's easy, unless you have proof that an assumption is true, don't make it. When you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME.

And that's all.

 

[Flabbergasped?]

This is particularly for the DJ Discussion Forum, but if more people followed the rules below, we'd become an overall better forum and have overall less trolls and KBJ's.

1. Do not talk about what you know nothing about.

You are a virgin, and have posted numerous threads about how "being yourself" and not being "outcome dependent" will get you more lays. Naturally, you had no idea what you were talking about. Follow your own rule.

2. There's a line between criticism and hating and people on this board don't know it.

I agree.

3. If someone doesn't take your advice/criticism do not attempt to argue with them.

I think the problem is that you never respectfully disagree with people. It's always some remark about how your way is better. Multiply that by 20 threads, and you'll get some haters.

4. Don't troll perfectly good topics.

Yes.

5. Do not brag.

Well, if they need to prove they have experience in something, as per rule 1, I don't see what's wrong with saying how many lays you have.

6. Don't hate on those who are actually going out.

Yes.

7. Don't make assumptions about a person, if you do not know them or have little proof that what you're assuming is true, then don't make assumptions.

We make assumptions because you've told us nothing about yourself. Simply put, it is highly unusual that someone with little approach anxiety who collects numbers all the time can't get laid. Of course, you don't call all the numbers, so that's probably why, but I suspect it's more a matter of appearance.

That's why I asked you to post a picture a while back. Not so we can make fun of you, but so we can give advice on how to improve your style, hair, teeth, build, posture, etc, so you come off better.

Until that happens, people will keep assuming.

And that's all.

Responses not in bold.

 

[TheBaconator]

Good responses Flabbergasped.

To add, Elstud pretty much brags in every single thread he starts if people give him criticism, so he's being hypocritical in saying don't brag. All he does is post questions, ignore all the answers (like you said, sees his way working better, despite the fact that the reason he is asking is because his way didn't work) and then brags about all of his successful numbers with which he does nothing with.

Then he writes these legnthy posts about how he's what's right in these forums and everyone else ruins them.

 

[HandyAndy]

7. Don't make assumptions about a person, if you do not know them or have little proof that what you're assuming is true, then don't make assumptions.

Simply put, don't make assumptions about a person. For instance, if you have no PROOF somebody's a nerd at their High School, don't say some sh*t like "You're probably a nerd". It's easy, unless you have proof that an assumption is true, don't make it. When you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME.

And that's all.

HOLY DOG SH1T you are a hypocrite

I cant even remember how many times youve told me that I get no numbers and that I never go out or talk to women, and how I "freeze up"

YET YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME, follow your own rule you asshat

 

[ElStud]

You are a virgin, and have posted numerous threads about how "being yourself" and not being "outcome dependent" will get you more lays. Naturally, you had no idea what you were talking about. Follow your own rule.

Ah yes, but you also have to take it in that I go out into the field a lot and thus have tested that stuff in field and have seen it work. And ofcourse, you don't have to believe me, but if I give advice I've mostly tested it in field. Getting laid does not mean you don't approach. And anyone can look at my huge list of FR's and I see I go out daily. Only thing keeping me from getting laid? Me, myself and I.

And yes, by taking that advice I have gotten numbers. I just don't call those numbers once I get them, which in turn is one of the reasons I'm still a virgin.

 

[HandyAndy]

And anyone can look at my huge list of FR's and I see I go out daily.

And fail miserably...

 

[ElStud]

And fail miserably...

Anyone questioning what I mean by hating, read this post.

 

[Alle_Gory]

And fail miserably...

This is not important. Everyone fails, and you have to fail to succeed later on.

What is important is that the OP is being a hypocrite.




Stop it with these threads man. They're useless.

 

[Aragon034]

I make myself a solemn pledge to never again post on ElStud's threads unless it actually has something new/interesting/useful.

1. Do not talk about what you know nothing about.

I see this a lot particularly in my topics. If you don't know about something, do not give advice on it. If you've never kiss closed, don't give another person advice on kiss closing. If you've never gotten a number, don't give advice to someone on getting the number. It's simple, unless you've actually experienced something in field, do not give advice to others about it.

Maybe you should question WHY it seems like you are being singled out.

And how would you propose we prove to you that we've done such things? Here's my $0.02, we don't, because real men don't feel the need to prove themselves to anyone but themselves.

2. There's a line between criticism and hating and people on this board don't know it.

Yes, there's a line between criticism and hating. Criticism is giving people somewhat harsh advice, but it's meant to be productive. Yes, productive. Hating is what it is, straight hating on a person for no good reason. Like if a person has a completely good thread and you just come in there writing a post hating on the topic guy, that's hating. Also like advice, don't criticize a person if you have no idea what you're talking or are just a plain hypocrite.

Here's an idea, why not start a blog? that way you can keep all your reports, musings, and any of your thoughts you wish to share with us all in one neat place so it doesn't seem like you're trying to get the most FR threads. There, a productive criticism just like you wanted. ^_^

3. If someone doesn't take your advice/criticism do not attempt to argue with them.

Simple, if someone doesn't take your advice or criticism do not attempt to argue with them. ESPECIALLY if you gave advice on something you clearly have no idea about. The mindset should be like this... person takes my advice great... person doesn't take my advice, it's no big deal. I see big flame wars spread from this, someone doesn't take advice and the person GIVING the advice starts the argument.

I actually agree with you here, you didn't take any of my advice, so i stopped giving you any. but don't come crying back that things still aren't working when you haven't changed a thing. Instead, why don't you post what you DID change, then we can converse on that.

4. Don't troll perfectly good topics.

Don't troll perfectly good topics. But to understand this we must understand what trolling is. Trolling is posting something that has nothing to do with a topic. It's like if I had a thread about Mystery and seduction and someone goes "lulz did you see that new sex tape of Paris Hilton? it was hot lol". That's trolling. Trolling can also be posting random pictures of Steve Urkel in someones topic(MikeYikes). A troll can also be in the same realm as a KBJ, someone who acts like they go out, but don't.

but you didn't have a thread about Mystery or seduction, or anything of any value to anybody but yourself. you had a bunch of FRs about platonic encounters with women, and a thread giving a rehash of the reasons nerds don't get girls. Stuff we either don't care about hearing because it's not showing any improvement, or stuff we already know since we're here on this site anyway.

5. Do not brag.

Don't brag in topics. Nobody cares how many f*cking girls you've laid especially when it has nothing to do with the topic. This could be considered trolling in some cases. Don't brag.

I agree with this, So don't brag that you've got a huge number of phone numbers in your phone and you don't call any of them, That's nothing good to brag about. And exactly why are you bragging that you're out there appoaching? any self respecting DJ is already doing that, and it's such a small thing once you get used to it that it's insignificant to anybody but someone scared of it.

6. Don't hate on those who are actually going out.

For whatever reason you feel like hating on someone who's actually going out, don't. Because hate is the last thing we need on this forum. So don't hate.

how exactly can any of us prove we go out? a better question is why the **** should i care if you think i go out or not? or vice versa? you're an insignificant opinion on an internet forum i CHOOSE to go to. I CHOOSE to write this reply, Just like i CHOOSE to laugh at your epic failure.

7. Don't make assumptions about a person, if you do not know them or have little proof that what you're assuming is true, then don't make assumptions.

Simply put, don't make assumptions about a person. For instance, if you have no PROOF somebody's a nerd at their High School, don't say some sh*t like "You're probably a nerd". It's easy, unless you have proof that an assumption is true, don't make it. When you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME.

Again, WTF do you consider proof? All we have is what the person types, and usually it's not alot unless they really really want help.

This isn't a courtroom, it's a goddamn internet forum. The likelyhood of my ever meeting you in real life is about as likely my agreeing to a rectal probing, Chill the **** out.

But then again. 'The Internetz is Seriouz ****ing businezz

And that's all.

i seriously doubt that

 

[ElStud]

This is not important. Everyone fails, and you have to fail to succeed later on.

What is important is that the OP is being a hypocrite.




Stop it with these threads man. They're useless.

This is an example of someone who thinks they know everything. I should add baseless name calling to the list of what NOT to do as well. "Hypocrite" "Eldud" and all that stuff.

Call me what you want. Until you can give a good argument on why I would be a hypocrite those words are baseless.

1. Do not talk about what you know nothing about.

I see this a lot particularly in my topics. If you don't know about something, do not give advice on it. If you've never kiss closed, don't give another person advice on kiss closing. If you've never gotten a number, don't give advice to someone on getting the number. It's simple, unless you've actually experienced something in field, do not give advice to others about it.

Maybe you should question WHY it seems like you are being singled out.

And how would you propose we prove to you that we've done such things? Here's my $0.02, we don't, because real men don't feel the need to prove themselves to anyone but themselves.

2. There's a line between criticism and hating and people on this board don't know it.

Yes, there's a line between criticism and hating. Criticism is giving people somewhat harsh advice, but it's meant to be productive. Yes, productive. Hating is what it is, straight hating on a person for no good reason. Like if a person has a completely good thread and you just come in there writing a post hating on the topic guy, that's hating. Also like advice, don't criticize a person if you have no idea what you're talking or are just a plain hypocrite.

Here's an idea, why not start a blog? that way you can keep all your reports, musings, and any of your thoughts you wish to share with us all in one neat place so it doesn't seem like you're trying to get the most FR threads. There, a productive criticism just like you wanted. ^_^

3. If someone doesn't take your advice/criticism do not attempt to argue with them.

Simple, if someone doesn't take your advice or criticism do not attempt to argue with them. ESPECIALLY if you gave advice on something you clearly have no idea about. The mindset should be like this... person takes my advice great... person doesn't take my advice, it's no big deal. I see big flame wars spread from this, someone doesn't take advice and the person GIVING the advice starts the argument.

I actually agree with you here, you didn't take any of my advice, so i stopped giving you any. but don't come crying back that things still aren't working when you haven't changed a thing. Instead, why don't you post what you DID change, then we can converse on that.

4. Don't troll perfectly good topics.

Don't troll perfectly good topics. But to understand this we must understand what trolling is. Trolling is posting something that has nothing to do with a topic. It's like if I had a thread about Mystery and seduction and someone goes "lulz did you see that new sex tape of Paris Hilton? it was hot lol". That's trolling. Trolling can also be posting random pictures of Steve Urkel in someones topic(MikeYikes). A troll can also be in the same realm as a KBJ, someone who acts like they go out, but don't.

but you didn't have a thread about Mystery or seduction, or anything of any value to anybody but yourself. you had a bunch of FRs about platonic encounters with women, and a thread giving a rehash of the reasons nerds don't get girls. Stuff we either don't care about hearing because it's not showing any improvement, or stuff we already know since we're here on this site anyway.

5. Do not brag.

Don't brag in topics. Nobody cares how many f*cking girls you've laid especially when it has nothing to do with the topic. This could be considered trolling in some cases. Don't brag.

I agree with this, So don't brag that you've got a huge number of phone numbers in your phone and you don't call any of them, That's nothing good to brag about. And exactly why are you bragging that you're out there appoaching? any self respecting DJ is already doing that, and it's such a small thing once you get used to it that it's insignificant to anybody but someone scared of it.

6. Don't hate on those who are actually going out.

For whatever reason you feel like hating on someone who's actually going out, don't. Because hate is the last thing we need on this forum. So don't hate.

how exactly can any of us prove we go out? a better question is why the **** should i care if you think i go out or not? or vice versa? you're an insignificant opinion on an internet forum i CHOOSE to go to. I CHOOSE to write this reply, Just like i CHOOSE to laugh at your epic failure.

7. Don't make assumptions about a person, if you do not know them or have little proof that what you're assuming is true, then don't make assumptions.

Simply put, don't make assumptions about a person. For instance, if you have no PROOF somebody's a nerd at their High School, don't say some sh*t like "You're probably a nerd". It's easy, unless you have proof that an assumption is true, don't make it. When you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME.

Again, WTF do you consider proof? All we have is what the person types, and usually it's not alot unless they really really want help.

This isn't a courtroom, it's a goddamn internet forum. The likelyhood of my ever meeting you in real life is about as likely my agreeing to a rectal probing, Chill the **** out.

But then again. 'The Internetz is Seriouz ****ing businezz

And that's all.

i seriously doubt that.

2. Buddy I could care less if it helps anyone on the forum. I make FR's for myself and you don't HAVE to read them if you don't want to. This is a classic example of assuming too, you're assuming I post FR's to get the most FR's. Or can you honestly tell me you didn't assume that? Assuming = bad.

3. Classic example of making up stuff. Asking for advice is crying now? Nope, you made that up.

4. Like I said, you don't have to read them. Also this is another example of outright hating. "And giving a rehash why nerds don't get girls" haha why? Because I can successfully number close? Because I get interest? Stop making foolish comments.

5. Because you take it as bragging doesn't make it bragging. Anybody can look through my post and see I don't brag about my numbers. Learn what bragging is and come back. Bragging is saying "I have 5 girls wanting me(HandyAndy)", that's bragging. Saying "I get laid 5 times a week" that's bragging. Saying that I can number close aint bragging. It's not like I'm saying "Man, I got so many girls numbers!".

6. The thing is, is if you have no proof in any of your threads that you go out, we're most likely gonna get the impression that you don't. And proof is especially essential when you give advice. And what's proof? Just post an FR or a success story. Show us that you actually go out. People are more likely to use your advice if they have a feeling you know what you're talking about.

7. Thing is I've seen people assume so much sh*t on this forum off of nothing. "lol he must be a geek" "haha, he must be a nerd" "lol he must be creepy" based off of f*cking nothing.

 

[Alle_Gory]

This is an example of someone who thinks they know everything. I should add baseless name calling to the list of what NOT to do as well. "Hypocrite" "Eldud" and all that stuff.

I know lots of stuff. I don't know everything, or anywhere close to something, and I never claimed to do so.

I never called you names. I said you were being a hypocrite. Its an observation, and it is based on your actions. You post all these threads about how we should do this and that. This is the equivalent of trolling, which you yourself made a thread condemning.

BTW. I will refer to your rule #3, which makes you look like more of a hypocrite.
If someone doesn't take your advice/criticism do not attempt to argue with them.

What are you doing right now?

Exactly.



Don't bother posting a reply to this. I got better things to do. I was just posting my opinion so you can get some feedback.

 

[Flabbergasped?]

Ah yes, but you also have to take it in that I go out into the field a lot and thus have tested that stuff in field and have seen it work. And ofcourse, you don't have to believe me, but if I give advice I've mostly tested it in field. Getting laid does not mean you don't approach. And anyone can look at my huge list of FR's and I see I go out daily. Only thing keeping me from getting laid? Me, myself and I.

And yes, by taking that advice I have gotten numbers. I just don't call those numbers once I get them, which in turn is one of the reasons I'm still a virgin.

No, you haven't seen it work.

If you had seen it work, you would have gotten laid. Getting a girl's number doesn't mean sh!t to any serious DJ. The test of success is how it improves your ability to get laid.

I'm not saying your advice is bad. I'm saying you have nothing to back it up, because we KNOW you've never turned it into *****.

Seriously, you want us to listen to you because you approach and get phone numbers? What is that, week 3 of any bootcamp? Step out of your fvcking comfort zone and go for the close. Call all the numbers in your phone, then after you banged one of them, we'll see if it's legit.

 

[theunflushables]

7. Thing is I've seen people assume so much sh*t on this forum off of nothing. "lol he must be a geek" "haha, he must be a nerd" "lol he must be creepy" based off of f*cking nothing.

Exactly! You've fvcked nothing! You've been on this forum since Mar 2007 and you have not progressed much past approaching and getting phone numbers. But you can't go that far and then stop. You are not progressing. I don't say this to flame you, I say this to help. If you want respect here, you have to be willing to push forward out of your comfort zone. Its called growth.

 

[Crazy Asian]

actually i like to brag.
just a little

 

[ElStud]

Let's add another rule to the bunch.

If you don't like a thread, don't f*cking read

It's pretty simple, don't like a thread, don't f*cking read it.

 

[HandyAndy]

Let's add another rule to the bunch.

If you don't like a thread, don't f*cking read

It's pretty simple, don't like a thread, don't f*cking read it.

How can we know if were not gonna like the thread if we dont read it?

Man your so f*cking stupid ElFag, I cant wait till im allowed to negative rep you again, i used to talk **** but now your dumb ass is pissing me off for being so f*ucking stupid

Just commit suicide already

 

[Quiksilver]

These threads change nothing and I naturally come to the conclusion that it's just a grab for attention an attempt at pot-stirring.

Elstud, no one here respects you and none of the mods will ever step In to defend you because you show very littlle respect to anyone.. Since the world is a mirror, you get what you give.

Closed.