If girls pursue that which retreats from them, how can you hook up a ONS or STR?

[squirrels]

For example, you meet a girl at the club, hit it off right away, either conversationally, dancing, or physically, then decide you want to try to either take her home that night or try to hook up later.

The whole Tao of Steve thing says you should back away, challenge her at this point to chase YOU...but what if she doesn't give chase? I mean, if you KNOW she's sexually attracted to you, but won't hook up, won't give out her number, won't give you any way to contact her, and is too dumb to try and contact you?

In other words, how do you withdraw in a way that she persues you instead of just vanishing?

I've had this happen a couple times...seems to go hand in hand with the old, "I want him, but I don't want to seem like a slut..." issue.

 

[Slickster]

Good question.

Check out the Gunwitch Method

 

[So pimp its scary]

That is a good question...

If you are in a bar situation, and using this technique when you reach the part of demonstrating excellence... It's really going to have to be outstanding for the woman to pursue you. You're gonna have to attract several women, and truly show that you are the most 'excellent' guy in the whole place... that could be hard.

I find that the Tao of Steve approach doesn't work as well for ONS'. The Gunwchich method is pretty solid... (funny how a simple technique can take 50+ pages to describe and implement)

I find that in the bar, its' better to go for the : "I'm having this little after hours thing at my place. You should come... "

Or just ask for her number.

The gunwhich method by the way is more like the 'rakish' approach. Being in a state oozing of sexuality so that the state rubs off on the woman and she becomes horny as well.
Whereas the ToS approach is a more "coquettish" approach.
If you don't understand those terms I would recommend : "the art of Seduction" by Robert Greene.

 

[squirrels]

That makes sense, but I've tried being sexual, and it certainly leads to SOME stuff (kissing, heavy kino, etc), but then I inevitabley hit a point where all of a sudden they bust out, "I need to find my friends" or "you're just a player trying to get some" or some other BS.

I was thinking that MAYBE if I could somehow retreat and get her to pursue, it would change the game up...Gunwitch doesn't seem to work for me beyond a certain point, even using the kind of persistence he advocates, you can only hang in there so long before the night ends or the club closes or whatever. Unfortunately, it seems that these women are holding out for longer than I feasibly can.

If I can't put her in the pursuing position, I'm wondering how to get her past the ASD without having to wait until sex is no longer possible.

I guess "So Pimp" has a point with the "mack every girl in the club" approach. But I somehow feel like that'll reinforce the "just a player" notion that most of these girls get. Eventually you have to commit to one for the night...the DJ CHOOSES his woman. But once you choose her, she knows she has you. And if you've been playing all night, she's not going to get up off the number, because she doesn't want to be just another entry in your "black book."