"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ok...so i chill with this girl sun night at her house and watched a movie in her room. Convo was decent, i dont think i came off as shy. We made out, held hands and all that fvckin sh*t. So tonight we hung out and went to a park to shoot some hoops (something i think she does with a lot of guys cause she loves fvckin gangster black guys and expects them to be able to "ball" it up). She deduced that i was shy because i wasnt talkin much. I thought it was retarded we were shooting a basketball at 9:00 in the fvckin cold. Anyway, we got in her car and this fvckin ho had the audacity to say i have the qualities of a white boy and that im fvckin punk. I was wearing a studded belt with a john deere belt buckle, some skater shoes and a polo with a long sleeve under it. Now im black and this girl is a white little skank who is used to having guys all up on her...which isnt my style. Unlike many fvckers, i actually care if a girl is slightly mentally retarded...which this girl is. I cant explain how much it annoys me when people are full of enough ignorance to call me a white boy. Shes used to hangin out with gangster nig9ars, which is why i dont understand why theres an attraction from her. We still made out and i touched her bewbs but damn, shes a little slow. People are fvcking RETARDED!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Sounds like you have more class than the guys she usually dates. Doesn't sound like she is worth it. As a tip though, try not to see her 2 nights in a row when you are dating. Spread it out a bit so she has to fight for your time.
 

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oakraiderz2 said:
Ok...so i chill with this girl sun night at her house and watched a movie in her room. Convo was decent, i dont think i came off as shy. We made out, held hands and all that fvckin sh*t. So tonight we hung out and went to a park to shoot some hoops (something i think she does with a lot of guys cause she loves fvckin gangster black guys and expects them to be able to "ball" it up). She deduced that i was shy because i wasnt talkin much. I thought it was retarded we were shooting a basketball at 9:00 in the fvckin cold. Anyway, we got in her car and this fvckin ho had the audacity to say i have the qualities of a white boy and that im fvckin punk. I was wearing a studded belt with a john deere belt buckle, some skater shoes and a polo with a long sleeve under it. Now im black and this girl is a white little skank who is used to having guys all up on her...which isnt my style. Unlike many fvckers, i actually care if a girl is slightly mentally retarded...which this girl is. I cant explain how much it annoys me when people are full of enough ignorance to call me a white boy. Shes used to hangin out with gangster nig9ars, which is why i dont understand why theres an attraction from her. We still made out and i touched her bewbs but damn, shes a little slow. People are fvcking RETARDED!
Man you take things to seriously, a bigger man would have made a joke out of the "white boy" remark and flopped out his big black d*ck.

You acted like a sterotype white boy would, didn't do sh*t to her ran home and typed the story up on a forum.

You are sooooooooo WHITE!!

Loooool

Nah jking

But man seriously you should have pulled out your big black d*ck, co*k slapped her and said "would a white boy do that b*tch"
 

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LeviathanIYG said:
Man you take things to seriously, a bigger man would have made a joke out of the "white boy" remark and flopped out his big black d*ck.

You acted like a sterotype white boy would, didn't do sh*t to her ran home and typed the story up on a forum.

You are sooooooooo WHITE!!

Loooool

Nah jking

But man seriously you should have pulled out your big black d*ck, co*k slapped her and said "would a white boy do that b*tch"
What the hell are you talking about? If a white person calls a black person a ni99er should they make a joke about it if theyre a bigger man? I hear it soo much and shes sooo into black people and the sterotypical ways they do things, that it pissed me the hell off. Sorry i dont feel the need to prove sh*t to stupid IGNORANT slutty girls. If you heard **** like that all the time you might get a little irritated after a while.

Sounds like you have more class than the guys she usually dates. Doesn't sound like she is worth it. As a tip though, try not to see her 2 nights in a row when you are dating. Spread it out a bit so she has to fight for your time.
Yea, this girl is as shallow as an empty pond. I know i shouldnt have chilled with her two nights in a row but i figured i would for sh*ts and giggles. Im kinda glad i did cause i saw how she truly is.

She also said "you dont hang out with girls much do you?" Appearently this is because im a nerd because of the way i talk. I talk like comedians do and emphasize words so that im not boring. According to her i dont know sh*t about girls.
 

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If you were so 'taken back' by her comment, and so annoyed with her ignorance then why did you still make out with her? Why would you give somebody like that the time of day; let alone make out with her?

PS: It sounds like she hit on a major insecurity.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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xblitz44x said:
If you were so 'taken back' by her comment, and so annoyed with her ignorance then why did you still make out with her? Why would you give somebody like that the time of day; let alone make out with her?

PS: It sounds like she hit on a major insecurity.
Good question. I dunno. I could see how it could appear to be an insecurity, but i guess i have little patience comments as such. If someone called me a ni99er i would respond with the same attitude. It's a blantently ignorant statement with no reason to be stated. Yea, maybe i dont "dress like i should" but im not insecure about it by no means. Personally i like to see peoples reactions to what i wear. If someone calls me a ni99er, a white boy, or a white ni99er, im going to take some offense to it which i would assumse is natural...or maybe im just insecure.
 

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2,800 posts... hehe, I get to rag on somebody with more posts than me:p

You are insecure man. Listen to Leviathan. I thought you WERE a white boy when you wrote that. If you didn't say you were black I'd respond the same way....

She told what kind of guys she's used to. She told you the kind of guy she likes, and what they do... she's not like the other "white" girls out tehre who want a guy to be chivalrous, this girl knows what she wants.

When you didn't live up to it by being quiet, she started noticing all the other ways you act like a 'white' BOY.

The funny thing right now is... your insulting her, because she thought YOU were the loser. How flaming pathetic is that?
 

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my 2 cents

"I thought it was retarded we were shooting a basketball at 9:00 in the fvckin cold"

If you didn't want to go that badly then you shouldn't have.
"let's play a bit of b-ball?"
"not now, I'm taking you out to dinner"


"he loves fvckin gangster black guys and expects them to be able to "ball" it up"
so you thought you had to prove you could play? you dont have to prove ANYTHING to her; that's the wrong mindset. If you're going out in the cold just to prove you can play (and just because she suggested it), then i think you're on the wrong track.


"this fvckin ho had the audacity to say i have the qualities of a white boy and that im fvckin punk"

That could easily be a sh1t test in my opinion, in which case you came off as way too insecure.
 

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its over. notice your mistakes, drop her and move onto a girl worth your time.


best of luck to you
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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oakraiderz2 said:
...So tonight we hung out and went to a park to shoot some hoops (something i think she does with a lot of guys cause she loves fvckin gangster black guys and expects them to be able to "ball" it up). ...

...and this fvckin ho had the audacity to say i have the qualities of a white boy
She said this because she saw your jump shot! :D
 

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ethnomethodologist said:
2,800 posts... hehe, I get to rag on somebody with more posts than me:p

You are insecure man. Listen to Leviathan. I thought you WERE a white boy when you wrote that. If you didn't say you were black I'd respond the same way....

She told what kind of guys she's used to. She told you the kind of guy she likes, and what they do... she's not like the other "white" girls out tehre who want a guy to be chivalrous, this girl knows what she wants.

When you didn't live up to it by being quiet, she started noticing all the other ways you act like a 'white' BOY.

The funny thing right now is... your insulting her, because she thought YOU were the loser. How flaming pathetic is that?
If you think im insecure cool. If being quiet constitutes as being a white boy then so be it. She may know what she want, which clearly isnt someone like me. Yet why does she still talk to me? Why didnt she go home instead of chilling with me in a car for a few hours? Why does she give me the time of day? If she thought i was loser why does she still associate with me?? Im pretty sure if she thought of me as a loser that she would invite me anywhere, but i could be wrong.

Anyway, i understand what some of you guys are saying and where youre coming from. Personally i dont think i over reacted or that im insecure about what i mentioned. You all have your own perspective which ill take into think about.
 
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