If a man is helping to support a single mommie, is it wrong for him to expect action?

[MatureDJ]

I was reading this article, and it got me thinking:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/12/how-poor-single-moms-survive/418158

Indeed, things sometimes went awry when women depended on males in their life for help. One woman Seefeldt and Sandstrom interviewed said she asked male friends for help buying groceries or paying bills, but they sometimes asked for physical favors in return.

“He wants to stay the night, and thinking he’s gonna get over,” one woman told researchers. “Just because you bought me eight rolls of toilet paper and some dish rags and stuff, you’re not going to get over.”

I for one could not fathom helping out a single mommie if she weren't putting out. It sounds like this particular woman is resentful that the male friends she is asking for financial help want some love & affection in a quid pro quo. Perhaps they are single mommies because when they had a husband, they didn't put out enough to keep him around?

 

[HeadLightsOn]

Self entitled used b1tches. Period.

 

[Glumix]

If you expect sex in return of buying a girl some groceries, flowers or jewelery then sorry but you are probably an idiot.

You can buy sex, love & affection but you have to ask a girl who actually sell that.

So instead of expecting, ask her how many rolls of toilet paper will make you win a blow job. If she says 10, then go buy 20. And if she says f-ck you then it is up to you to help her anyways because you are not an a--hole, or not.

 

[Who Dares Win]

She probably just flirted or sent the wrong signal only to pretend as nothing happened once she got the food.

Same as many bars where they ask for free drinks.

Anyway unless daddy is dead its either she is a cvnt that choose men over tingles rather than brain or she is a pain in the ass to deal with, not trying to be harsh here but it fits 90% of the cases,

 

[CuddleJunkie]

The sad thing is I would help any of my female friends if I didn't know better. I mean, I would not be after sex, but they won't ever appreciate it like a male friend would. **** got really bad emotionally (father sickness) for a friend some months ago, and I helped him driving and just sharing time with him. I can say that our relationship grew a lot, and I know for sure that I can count with him if I ever need serious help. I'm not sure the same thing could happen with a woman.

 

[parkthebus]

Nothing is "wrong" or "right".

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You really shouldn't be providing for any female if she won't "put out" unless you really want to. But you shouldn't provide in hopes that she will, because she will keep the status quo going. This is why the model of always pursuing the tang first is not a bad idea. It establishes that it will be a sexual relationship. You can help if you like, but you cannot help expecting to get the tang. Many women are not wired this way, some are though.

 

[Sprayarc]

How many millions of tax dollars every year are wasted on these irresponsible women and their illegitimate children. It's their body, they chose to get pregnant. They chose to put themselves in a situation that resulted in them getting pregnant. Yet we

She probably just flirted or sent the wrong signal only to pretend as nothing happened once she got the food.

Same as many bars where they ask for free drinks.

Anyway unless daddy is dead its either she is a cvnt that choose men over tingles rather than brain or she is a pain in the ass to deal with, not trying to be harsh here but it fits 90% of the cases,

It's so easy for women to covertly lead a guy on and the pretend she didn't do it.

 

[glass half full]

I was reading this article, and it got me thinking:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/12/how-poor-single-moms-survive/418158

I for one could not fathom helping out a single mommie if she weren't putting out. It sounds like this particular woman is resentful that the male friends she is asking for financial help want some love & affection in a quid pro quo. Perhaps they are single mommies because when they had a husband, they didn't put out enough to keep him around?

This is highly likely.

 

[Glumix]

You seriously are recommending to help single mothers and not expect anything, because otherwise you're an @sshole???

LOL!!!!!

I am recommending not expecting anything in return of what you do.

It's pretty much the same thing with those guys who expect to have s-x with their exes because they stay friends or they keep offering their time and activities with them. They are just toy boys or perhaps dildo boys. Those girls USE you for a different purpose than your sexual satisfaction. You think you use them for your sexual pleasure? WRONG. They use you. And at the end of the day they will win because they will just replace you with a better and richer dildo.

If at first she does not give you something, then she is out of your life OR you can genuinely help her because you want it. But you better have no expectation.

But some men expect great connection with women because they buy them 10 rolls of toilet paper and pay their bills. That's not going to happen. And even if you have s-x, that's not going to make you a man. S-x is not enough. You have better to do in your life. Or go to a pro, you will have better s-x, better body for the same price.

Same thing if you tease your GF and she spreads her legs so you leave her alone in a "just do it so I can sleep" way, this is castrating. The end of your relationship is pretty soon after that. IMO you must refuse that!

So yeah, sex is not enough for me at least.

 

[logicallefty]

I'll help a single mommy out. I'll give her my time and energy writing http://www.monster.com on a piece of paper and handing it to her. I'll even be a gentleman and provide the ink from my pen (but she has to provide the paper).

 

[YawataNoKami]

 

[Alvafe]

main problem here is guys willing to date single moms, I said this once close to a untie of mine (her daughter is a single mom), she didn't like it and tried to protest, but after I told her, why I would waste my time with a single mom when I can find one without a kid she just stoped and give me reason.

you can always try to have fun with single moms, but please never take one serious and even less spend money on then

 

[Kailex]

If you're giving a single mom money, you should be expected to be treated as nothing more than an ATM.