"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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off of a website what would you type to move forward your encounter with one another?

I never put much credence into meeting a dame on the web but I created a hotornot profile w/ pics and got a few meet-me's. Now, the ones I don't wanna meet - the 40 year old has-beens etc. - I just ignore and don't click "Yes," just let it sit there, but the one or two I WILL be willing to meet, I click "Yes" which in turn creates a "double" "match."

Now, my question is: "Where do I go from here? When I get the double-match? Do I initiate by messaging her (i.e. quite young - in college dorm - and beautiful)?"

I have 6 days (out of 30 days) left before our double-match expires and I REALLY would like to meet this one. She's picked me first and I think that she's a good compliment to me looks-wise. She looks Very vibrant! and probably likes Harry Potter. Crap. I grew up on Star Wars and sh1t.

Anyhow, what should I do? just, let it expire? I don't want to come off as not-the-prize by messaging her first, but she looks like my type, or what I'm looking for.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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I'm just curious, what would you do if the two of you didn't meet on a website?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
I'm just curious, what would you do if the two of you didn't meet on a website?
Well, she'd probably be smitten in the beginning at first sight. Then I'd see her again, and again, but we'd never actually go out because I'd be in a "strictly business" mode and couldn't bring myself to asking her out for fear of getting fired.
 

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Ask her to meet you for coffee somewhere near you.
State the day, time, and place.
 

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Interceptor said:
Ask her to meet you for coffee somewhere near you.
State the day, time, and place.
I don't like coffee. She lives 40 miles away. I'd rather take her to a planetarium (for free) about 20 miles South of me and 20 miles North of her. I overheard a co-worker talking about this place the other day. She might get bored though. She's kind of a skater chick, may be a little too "cool" or "fast" (in terms of her judgments) for me. Knowledge of the stars is very important though.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Poonani Maker said:
I don't like coffee. She lives 40 miles away...
Something told me that there was a bit more to this. So what exactly do you want to achieve from the "next step," whatever that may be.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
I don't like coffee. She lives 40 miles away. I'd rather take her to a planetarium (for free) about 20 miles South of me and 20 miles North of her. I overheard a co-worker talking about this place the other day. She might get bored though. She's kind of a skater chick, may be a little too "cool" or "fast" (in terms of her judgments) for me. Knowledge of the stars is very important though.

WOW. dude.

Dude...

DUDE.

You DO NOT have to actually DRINK Coffee there, dude.


And hello...you DON"T ACTUALLY HAVE to PAY for HER COFEE, DUDE.



MEETING was the word I chose instead of "going out on a DATE".

You don't know this female, so you are NOT going to "TAKE her OUT on a DATE"
Comprende?

You are MEETING her in a neutral place for a reason, dude.


wow...
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Something told me that there was a bit more to this. So what exactly do you want to achieve from the "next step," whatever that may be.
to fvck her, duh I think that's what she wants from me already, maybe more.
 

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WOW. dude.

Dude...

DUDE.

You DO NOT have to actually DRINK Coffee there, dude.


And hello...you DON"T ACTUALLY HAVE to PAY for HER COFEE, DUDE.



MEETING was the word I chose instead of "going out on a DATE".

You don't know this female, so you are NOT going to "TAKE her OUT on a DATE"
Comprende?

You are MEETING her in a neutral place for a reason, dude.


wow...
Ok so, should I just message to her?: "You wanta get together for coffee?" or "Let's meet for coffee?" I think that I can already judge her answer to that - No.

But I guess I can come right out and ask her like that, wtf who cares if she says yes, ok if no, so I've got others, but I'd really like to not fvck this up. She might be a keeper, based on her looks/youth/richness.
 

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to fvck her, duh I think that's what she wants from me already, maybe more.
Well if that's all it's all dependant on the kind of state you've created with her online. If it was one of physical chemistry and such, why waste time on something like going to a planetarium?

Wouldn't you want to do something where the two of you you interact more one on one and then be relatively close to someplace where the two of you could get to know one another even better? It's hard to do something impulsive if you have to first drive 20 miles in order to get somewhere more intimate.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
It's hard to do something impulsive if you have to first drive 20 miles in order to get somewhere more intimate.
As far as I'm concerned we can just do it in the planetarium. My 'other' plates are away with family for the holidays, so now is the time to explore these straggler ones I've been putting off while they're gone.

I think that I'm ready for a girl who I or none of my so-called friends know. I like the clean-slate aspect. Too many guys when they know that a girl is interested in you, will try to steer her away from you with lies and innuendo, slandering you to no end. Most women fall for it. I believe that 80% of my current plates have been slipped bad info about me, recently. I think it's time to bring in a girl from the outside, one that nobody knows, and say fvck you to all those who have been talking about me in a negative light - no love.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
...I think that I'm ready for a girl who I or none of my so-called friends know. I like the clean-slate aspect. Too many guys when they know that a girl is interested in you, will try to steer her away from you with lies and innuendo, slandering you to no end. Most women fall for it. I believe that 80% of my current plates have been slipped bad info about me, recently. I think it's time to bring in a girl from the outside, one that nobody knows, and say fvck you to all those who have been talking about me in a negative light - no love.
Dude, it sounds like you have other things which need attention beyond finding new plates to spin.
 

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Ok here's a snippet of her profile:

"but i dont like fake people and people who just want to get laid. peace."

So should I say to her in my first and ONLY message: You know, you really had me until I read "i don't like people who just want to get laid..." oh well.

I've got 44 hours left to contact her or no poudie for me.
 

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Poonani Maker said:
Ok here's a snippet of her profile:

"but i dont like fake people and people who just want to get laid. peace."

So should I say to her in my first and ONLY message: You know, you really had me until I read "i don't like people who just want to get laid..." oh well.

I've got 44 hours left to contact her or no poudie for me.
From this snippet I'm wondering why you're so interested in her when you just want to bed her.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
From this snippet I'm wondering why you're so interested in her when you just want to bed her.
Well, she looks like the fast bedding type. She's sending out mixed signals. I can see how she's just too young (and hot) to put up with in the long run. A chick like this, while young and full of imagination and ideas probably, wouldn't know what she was getting into if she met up with a guy like me - a crazy mother fooker. She'd probably drop me in less than a week,maybe day,maybe hour, because she "appears" to be - based on her profile - little miss perfect, rich daddy's girl, yet a definite attribute of tomboyishness i.e. the skateboarding/snowboarding. Her options are wide open is what I'm trying to get at, so why waste my time. I'd only be going into this with intention to fvck and fvck quick and get out while the gettin's good because I think I know this type who would be hard to maintain long-term. I just know instinctively what woman is gonna work for me long-term. I've met her/them. They must hold similar beliefs, and be a little fvcked up while at the same time honest. A "perfect" girl is just not gonna do it for me, different backgrounds, different paths and lives. Commonalities are very important long-term.

Our double-match has expired anyhow so, I let this one go.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Poonani Maker said:
Well, she looks like the fast bedding type. She's sending out mixed signals. I can see how she's just too young (and hot) to put up with in the long run. A chick like this, while young and full of imagination and ideas probably, wouldn't know what she was getting into if she met up with a guy like me - a crazy mother fooker. She'd probably drop me in less than a week,maybe day,maybe hour, because she "appears" to be - based on her profile - little miss perfect, rich daddy's girl, yet a definite attribute of tomboyishness i.e. the skateboarding/snowboarding. Her options are wide open is what I'm trying to get at, so why waste my time. I'd only be going into this with intention to fvck and fvck quick and get out while the gettin's good because I think I know this type who would be hard to maintain long-term. I just know instinctively what woman is gonna work for me long-term. I've met her/them. They must hold similar beliefs, and be a little fvcked up while at the same time honest. A "perfect" girl is just not gonna do it for me, different backgrounds, different paths and lives. Commonalities are very important long-term.

Our double-match has expired anyhow so, I let this one go.
My gut tells me that you wanted the challenge.
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
My gut tells me that you wanted the challenge.
Well, I just checked. I've still got 26 hours. I'll briefly let you peek at one of her pics:
 

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wtf is this?

do you have BASIC social skills man??? wtf!!!!

you message her, say "hey whats up? my name is ____ , whats yours? give me your screen name and we'll talk sometime cutie ;) "

or ask for her #, but she likely wont give it online till she talks to u at least a little!

you Poonani Maker seem to seriously lack social skills and look ****in desperate as all hell if all you wanna say is "wanna meet for coffee" - do you not know how to have a basic conversation to quickly get to know someone? you cant escalate from NOTHING

total loser
 

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wtf is this?

do you have BASIC social skills man??? wtf!!!!

you message her, say "hey whats up? my name is ____ , whats yours? give me your screen name and we'll talk sometime cutie ;) "

or ask for her #, but she likely wont give it online till she talks to u at least a little!

you Poonani Maker seem to seriously lack social skills and look ****in desperate as all hell if all you wanna say is "wanna meet for coffee" - do you not know how to have a basic conversation to quickly get to know someone? you cant escalate from NOTHING

total loser
look dipsh1t, I converse with over 100 people a day most of them women, dipsh1t, so I know how to talk to women in person, just that this online thing that's stumping me cause it doesn't feel natural.
 

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dipshyt, you talk online just like in person - thats the whole point!!

its only creepy when you come at them all weird and different than in a real life situation

thats the point - make it feel as natural as possible for her, and if you yourself dont like how unnatural it feels, then stop worrying about this and EXXAGERATING how important this is to you by dedicating a whole thread on sosuave to it
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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