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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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If a fat/ugly girl approaches you what does that say about your own attractiveness?

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BlahUgh

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The title basically says it all. I was basically studying in a study/talking/whatever area and had walked back and forth a few times. I noticed this fat girl looking at me a couple times and when I sat back then she approached me and asked me to help her do a problem, but the problem was so obviously simple she most likely knew it (uni not HS here). Question is what does her approaching me mean. Does it mean she thinks I'm in her league?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Yeah it is an insult to your looks if sober fat/ugly girls hit on you but I wouldn't think too much of what she did.

She wasn't that obvious. Maybe she really did need help. If she were more obvious by asking you out or something like that then I would be offended.

just my opinion
 

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It means your the ****, and she's over confident. :D

Nah seriously though... I've never dealt with an F/U girl before. But by no means do you disrespect her. It's all about being Alpha, not *******.

Word will spread fast and bite you in the ass in the long run. Especially if you're in college.

Chat her up and have fun doing it, social proof is great. Besides, fat girls always have hot friends.

Now someone just has to chime in and explain how to use her as a pivot. You can't be a **** otherwise her friends will hate you, but at the same time you gotta show interest in her friends.

Otherwise they'll try some HS **** on you like "You and F/U would make a cute couple"... aka LJBF, hardcore edition.
 

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I'd say it makes you attractive.

The thing is, if she's fat and ugly then unless you're fat and ugly she's going to know full well she's not in your league.

Just because girls are ugly dosen't mean they want to **** ugly guys, I get girls hitting on me every now and then and some are hot and some aren't.

I'd say it would be more of a worry if they didn't hit on you at all, also the fact that you'd established eye contact with her on a few occaisons could lead her to believe you were interested.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by BlahUgh
The title basically says it all. I was basically studying in a study/talking/whatever area and had walked back and forth a few times. I noticed this fat girl looking at me a couple times and when I sat back then she approached me and asked me to help her do a problem, but the problem was so obviously simple she most likely knew it (uni not HS here). Question is what does her approaching me mean. Does it mean she thinks I'm in her league?
u r a dumb ass

what does some1 actions say about u

no brainer

nothing

u r a dumb ass
 

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Re: Re: If a fat/ugly girl approaches you what does that say about your own attractiv

Originally posted by NumenMalefic
u r a dumb ass

what does some1 actions say about u

no brainer

nothing

u r a dumb ass
why the hell do you feel the need to call people dumbass? he made a thread because he wanted to ask a question and you have to freaking call him a dumbass. how old are you?
 

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Re: Re: Re: If a fat/ugly girl approaches you what does that say about your own attractiv

Originally posted by Logen
why the hell do you feel the need to call people dumbass? he made a thread because he wanted to ask a question and you have to freaking call him a dumbass. how old are you?
u r stupid

cant read can u

i call u want i want cos i can

byacht
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: If a fat/ugly girl approaches you what does that say about your own a

Originally posted by NumenMalefic

cant read can u
I can spell and use proper grammar.

Not because I can, but because I’d look like an idiot if I didn’t. :eek:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by Logen
I’d look like an idiot if I didn’t. :eek:
u still an idiot

proper grammar or not

who gives a flying fvck what i look like 2 u on here

not me
 

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maybe because it was a retarded question to begin with. Who woke up and appointed someone God where overweight people cant have interest in someone. You're all flesh and blood underneath bwahahahahhaa
 

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With anyone who approaches you, it's their standards that indicates whether you should be flattered or not.

Fat chicks are sometimes very confident and believe they can get good looking, charismatic guys, yet there are many hot chicks who are insecure who'll go with the first guy who shows them attention.

But either way, you shouldn't judge yourself through the eyes of others.
 

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Originally posted by Jariel
With anyone who approaches you, it's their you shouldn't judge yourself through the eyes of others.

smart man

see

why cant u b more like him

then u only got 140 more iq points to catch up 2 me
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Re: Re: Re: Re: If a fat/ugly girl approaches you what does that say about your own attractiv

Originally posted by NumenMalefic
u r stupid

cant read can u

i call u want i want cos i can

byacht

I think someone is on his way to get banned.
 

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When you get approached by an less atractive person then yourself, they know they're banking on a long shot so letting them down shouldn't be that hard.
 

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It simply means that she finds you attractive. That's all.
 

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Originally posted by BlahUgh
The title basically says it all. I was basically studying in a study/talking/whatever area and had walked back and forth a few times. I noticed this fat girl looking at me a couple times and when I sat back then she approached me and asked me to help her do a problem, but the problem was so obviously simple she most likely knew it (uni not HS here). Question is what does her approaching me mean. Does it mean she thinks I'm in her league?

If she thinks she's ugly, and she's approaching you, then she probably thinks you're ugly.

I've never heard of an ugly girl who knows it approaching a guy she considers objectively attractive. She would have been rejected a long time ago and learned a quick lesson. She'll stick to her league if she knows what her league is.

In your case, though, where no action was really taken, yes, she probably finds you attractive.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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