Identical: A Male Virgin and a Man Having a Mid-life Crisis

[bmp2cpm]

I've been helping out a 19-year old male virgin on another site, making him realize how women and the world really are. He's depressed because he's in college, going to school for free, has no debt, and no girlfriend. Totally clueless.

By chatting to him, I realize now that a male virgin and a man having a mid-life crisis are identical.

Both are men who have decided to be picky about who they give their valuable resources to and both are shamed by women for this.

A male virgin and a mid-life crisis man carry a stigma with them, but these are just shaming words invented by the female gender to try and make men not be picky about giving their valuable resources to women. Women greatly fear whole groups of men who are picky with giving their resources and therefore women use their chief weapons of manipulation and shaming.

Meanwhile, this poor guy and many like him fall for it hook, line, and sinker. The shaming power of women is not to be underestimated.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I guess in both cases its involved ego and the feeling of something lacking that has to be taken before its too late.

It's not different from a woman hitting the wall and trying her best to find a provider and get pregnat.

Unlike the woman hitting the wall, the teenage virgin can still play and hit the jackpot as long as he manage to control his ego and desire for self-affirmation in th short term (yeah I know seems easy now, less back then).

The man struck from the mid-life crysis is different, he is still sane enough to desire hot young girls but realizes he no longer has what it takes to get them except few exceptions.

Regarding a clever resourches management from men we all agree I guess, but just like money it seems that the less you have, the more you need to spend to get something.

My best efforts when I was 18 wouldnt get me laid as much as a medium effort now.

Regarding your point a teenage virgin and a middle aged men are not the same, one is desperate cause he doesnt know that he has a road full of opportunities according to how he plays he hand while the second may be disturbed because he is moving to an other phase of his life which doesnt grant him as many opportunities despite his efforts.

 

[mangotot]

Guys with mid life crisis, that is not neccessarily because of women issues. They usually have a whole load of other stuff causing the ill feelings. The only identical thing is, both are pi$$ed off with life causing stress and depression.

 

[evan12]

OP: I think the common thing between both are both want something they cant have or at least they think they cant have , that is what cause depression.
so in the end both have depression .

 

[logicallefty]

I have been through my mid life crisis already. It was caused by getting arrested, job loss as a cop/Detective, finding out my woman cheated and was married to 2 other men, coming home to a ransacked house with stuff missing including my dog, and family turning their backs on me, all within less than 1 month's time.

I have sense had the opportunity to mentor a young man in real life.

One thing I did to help him see the light was question him, almost as if I was interrogating him, to make him answer questions out loud to me and himself about what he really sees vs what he has been told to believe.

Is it true that you know couples of various ages, married and not married, who have had breakups, YES or NO?

In general, how have the men treated the women?

Out of all the people you know who have broken up, how many of the breakups were male initiated and how many were female?

Have you ever been dumped by a woman?

Did she end it or you?

How did you treat her?

Think of a man you know who is good getting the ladies? (Lefty lol)

How does that man behave in comparison to how you have behaved in the past with ladies, and with other good guys you mentioned above who have been dumped ?


These questions can go on and on and on.. They can be about people in general, not just women....

I did this with the guy I helped and then got him to make a SS account. I told him about SS but would not tell him the name of our site until I felt his mind had opened up enough to be objective to our teachings here. If i would have given him this site right away he would have told us all we were full of it.

NOW, at age 22, he has a wife who treats him like a KING. I have actually never seen a woman treat a man this good ever. I am quite jealous.

OP, tell your guy that there is hope.. Bring him here to us when you think he is ready so we can help you help him.

 

[Alvafe]

I've been helping out a 19-year old male virgin on another site, making him realize how women and the world really are. He's depressed because he's in college, going to school for free, has no debt, and no girlfriend. Totally clueless.

By chatting to him, I realize now that a male virgin and a man having a mid-life crisis are identical.

Both are men who have decided to be picky about who they give their valuable resources to and both are shamed by women for this.

A male virgin and a mid-life crisis man carry a stigma with them, but these are just shaming words invented by the female gender to try and make men not be picky about giving their valuable resources to women. Women greatly fear whole groups of men who are picky with giving their resources and therefore women use their chief weapons of manipulation and shaming.

Meanwhile, this poor guy and many like him fall for it hook, line, and sinker. The shaming power of women is not to be underestimated.

I think only stigma here is both still care what a random woman thinks or any woman really.

when a men don't fall for shamming normally he is a guy who woman want to be with, trying to control him and always failing to do so, and when she can control the men she lost all interest on him.

 

[logicallefty]

Excellent colloquy for waking up the uninitiated....I suggest you make it into a separate thread so that it can be stickied

Thank you Sir. I will do that soon.

 

[bmp2cpm]

I guess my points didn't quite come through on the original post.

Here's what I was trying to get at......

A male virgin is typically a guy who is in school or just starting to work. Because of his situation (e.g. not much money, not many resources to offer a woman of any kind), he's very aware that a wrong move with a woman means a potential unwanted pregnancy and all his resources going down the drain for a couple of decades. All his potential resources that he hasn't realized yet, poof! Gone in an instant for not making good choices with women.

Male virgins may be inexperienced, but they do not want to have to give all their resources to a woman as they are starting out in life, so they tend to have a lot of self-control when it comes to women. My argument is that on some level women know this, they don't like it as it means less resources for them in the big picture of things and the female gender is the one primarily responsible for the shaming of male virgins and society has a whole as generally fallen for this, all for the good of women and to the detriment of men overall.

Now......a mid-life crisis male is a man who realizes his woman is sucking him dry of his resources for no benefit at all. The mid-life crisis man realizes his resource potential has skyrocketed over the years and he's in his prime for getting resources. He realizes he can 1) be more selective about resources and 2) can upgrade to a better woman, and 3) because of his status, doesn't even have to commit resources as much as he previously did. Again, on some level women know this, they don't like it as it means less resources for them in the big picture of things and the female gender is the one primarily responsible for the shaming of mid-life crisis males and society as a whole has generally fallen for this, all for the good of women and to the detriment of men overall.


My argument is in the mind of a woman, both a male virgin and mid-life crisis male are bad news to women and they use their shaming strategy to specifically target these two populations and so many males have fallen for this over lot's of decades. And that's why a male virgin and mid-life crisis male are identical.

 

[evan12]

I guess my points didn't quite come through on the original post.

Here's what I was trying to get at......

A male virgin is typically a guy who is in school or just starting to work. Because of his situation (e.g. not much money, not many resources to offer a woman of any kind), he's very aware that a wrong move with a woman means a potential unwanted pregnancy and all his resources going down the drain for a couple of decades. All his potential resources that he hasn't realized yet, poof! Gone in an instant for not making good choices with women.

Male virgins may be inexperienced, but they do not want to have to give all their resources to a woman as they are starting out in life, so they tend to have a lot of self-control when it comes to women. My argument is that on some level women know this, they don't like it as it means less resources for them in the big picture of things and the female gender is the one primarily responsible for the shaming of male virgins and society has a whole as generally fallen for this, all for the good of women and to the detriment of men overall.

Now......a mid-life crisis male is a man who realizes his woman is sucking him dry of his resources for no benefit at all. The mid-life crisis man realizes his resource potential has skyrocketed over the years and he's in his prime for getting resources. He realizes he can 1) be more selective about resources and 2) can upgrade to a better woman, and 3) because of his status, doesn't even have to commit resources as much as he previously did. Again, on some level women know this, they don't like it as it means less resources for them in the big picture of things and the female gender is the one primarily responsible for the shaming of mid-life crisis males and society as a whole has generally fallen for this, all for the good of women and to the detriment of men overall.


My argument is in the mind of a woman, both a male virgin and mid-life crisis male are bad news to women and they use their shaming strategy to specifically target these two populations and so many males have fallen for this over lot's of decades. And that's why a male virgin and mid-life crisis male are identical.

I think you are viewing all the man/woman relationship from the point of women want man resources and man want to decide to who give his resources . that could be true some times , but not all men and women base they decisions of that .

 

[Mike32ct]

I've been helping out a 19-year old male virgin on another site, making him realize how women and the world really are. He's depressed because he's in college, going to school for free, has no debt, and no girlfriend. Totally clueless.

Props to you for helping this guy out. IME, nobody wants to help male virgins. Friends and family usually stay in denial and hope that "He will grow out of it" lol. They think it will resolve itself like some childhood/adolescent acne or something lol.

By chatting to him, I realize now that a male virgin and a man having a mid-life crisis are identical.

Both are men who have decided to be picky about who they give their valuable resources to and both are shamed by women for this.

I'll disagree slightly. I don't think most male virgins are that way because they are too picky. It's usually shyness, social awkwardness, lack of looks, a sheltered life with a limited social circle, or some combination of those.

Yes, there are some overly picky virgins, but I don't think those are the ones we are discussing.

A male virgin and a mid-life crisis man carry a stigma with them, but these are just shaming words invented by the female gender to try and make men not be picky about giving their valuable resources to women. Women greatly fear whole groups of men who are picky with giving their resources and therefore women use their chief weapons of manipulation and shaming.

I'll agree with you about the shaming part. Women like to shame. They can be quite sadistic in that way.

Meanwhile, this poor guy and many like him fall for it hook, line, and sinker. The shaming power of women is not to be underestimated.

Besides being sadistic, as the status hores that women are, they love to put down others that they view as "lower" than them. Even if you aren't actually "lower" than her, she will find something "wrong" with you lol.

Can a mid-life crisis guy IDENTIFY with the male virgin? Yes, ABSOLUTELY. It is a secondary virginity of sorts (with no clear path to lose it). You go from can't get a girl to can't get a girl ANYMORE.

But it's not exactly the same. The virgin guy is at the beginning of his journey (even if it's a late start). The mid-life guy is nearing the end of his.

 

[sodbuster]

The whole "midlife crisis" is a crock of sh1t. When I bought a motorcycle.... my son't thought it was one. I explained to them that I HAD one before, but I couldn't figure out how to tie a D@MN car seat on it.... When they are BOTH through College, I will PROBABLY do some of the things I've wanted to do for YEARS, but couldn't because I had kids.....

I DID have a bit of an issue with women after the Divorce, it took me a day to get laid.... BUT I do still have issues with women, I'm not ready to put up with anything that isn't in MY best interest.... unfortunately, theydon't see it that way

 

[VladPatton]

Sooooo...buying the car, motorcycle, and house you dreamed of is a midlife crisis because you can't get laid, have no kids, no wife, or have a bald spot. Stop letting people label you and do wtf you want with YOUR money. Laugh it off and enjoy your toys, property and your life.

Trust me, all those soccer moms with a bunt, and fat AFC husbands are secretly hating you because they can't do what you can do due to all the rules and fears society put into them.

 

[Alvafe]

Sooooo...buying the car, motorcycle, and house you dreamed of is a midlife crisis because you can't get laid, have no kids, no wife, or have a bald spot. Stop letting people label you and do wtf you want with YOUR money. Laugh it off and enjoy your toys, property and your life.

Trust me, all those soccer moms with a bunt, and fat AFC husbands are secretly hating you because they can't do what you can do due to all the rules and fears society put into them.

lol on that mark its a mid life crisis because he is doing something for him and not his wife, who sacrifice so much of her life to be with him....

 

[Sonic1]

Sooooo...buying the car, motorcycle, and house you dreamed of is a midlife crisis because you can't get laid, have no kids, no wife, or have a bald spot. Stop letting people label you and do wtf you want with YOUR money. Laugh it off and enjoy your toys, property and your life.

Trust me, all those soccer moms with a bunt, and fat AFC husbands are secretly hating you because they can't do what you can do due to all the rules and fears society put into them.

Exactly! I don't understand the social stigma of it being selfish for a guy to enjoy his money that he actually went out and earned! Gasp! Since my divorce, I bought a corvette and a motorcycle. Needless to say, I caught a lot of crap from people including my mother! Whenever it happens, I just smirk at them. These other people are just at a different point in their life and maybe afraid of being "judged". I agree with VladPatton, laugh at them and don't you dare feel guilty about being judged!

 

[btownbuck2012]

I've been helping out a 19-year old male virgin on another site, making him realize how women and the world really are. He's depressed because he's in college, going to school for free, has no debt, and no girlfriend. Totally clueless.

By chatting to him, I realize now that a male virgin and a man having a mid-life crisis are identical.

Both are men who have decided to be picky about who they give their valuable resources to and both are shamed by women for this.

A male virgin and a mid-life crisis man carry a stigma with them, but these are just shaming words invented by the female gender to try and make men not be picky about giving their valuable resources to women. Women greatly fear whole groups of men who are picky with giving their resources and therefore women use their chief weapons of manipulation and shaming.

Meanwhile, this poor guy and many like him fall for it hook, line, and sinker. The shaming power of women is not to be underestimated.

This is truly some deep stuff right here. Women are ruthless in their shaming on men and once you've swallowed the red pill, you'll find yourself utterly sickened at that blatant shaming tactics that women use on men throughout the course of everyday events.

I mean just look at High School, for example. Men are no where even close to becoming their best selves and enjoying the best years of their lives, but heaven forbid you don't have a girlfriend or are still a virgin, when in reality both of those things are meaningless in a boy's high school years.

You can enjoy women, you can date them, and you can have sex with them. But never underestimate their fear of a man who knows his own value. I mean it is utterly ruthless. And they'll completely destroy men like the OP talks about, who are oblivious to the red pill life, with their shaming tactics. You've got to learn to operate within the system. Watch your ass at all times.