"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I'd like all of your views on 'girl friends', i.e. women who are no-strings buddies.

MascaraSnake

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I'm a music/theater nerd, and since that's my major, 90 percent of my friends are in that circle. Naturally, about three quarters of them are girls.

I do have crushes in the circle, but since it tends to be close-knit I put them all on the back-burner...would rather date strangers and avoid the "oooh, so-and-so's dating so-and-so" banter being directed at me. I'll pour alcohol into an open wound before I add unnecessary drama to my love life.

I'm just curious what the general perception is of a guy who flat out hangs around with the opposite sex that much. Gay? Pushover? Ladies' man? It does have its advantages (2 of my cuter choir mates approached me during a coffee date last time, it was great) but I'd hate to look like an AFC lapdog.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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umm, you do know that guys and girls can be friends right? Here's an example, my best friend is a girl, I'm attracted to her (she's a HB7), but I'd never want to date her (I'd sleep with her as long as no feelings were involved). When we were younger there were always rumors about us, ppl asking us if we were dating (and why we weren't). But we're just friends and I'm sure ppl don't think I'm gay, an afc, or anything else.
 

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The only way you look like an AFC is if you are insecure and don't believe fully in what you do.

If you're afraid that your future profession (acting) is going to interfere with you pulling women, then it's probably not the profession for you. I say this because acting takes a lot of sucking up of your pride (you probably know this).

Are theater majors looked upon as gay where I'm from? Yes. They are actually. But this should not interfere with you getting your thing going with women.

I say date women in your social circle, f*ck it. I mean how much action are you getting now? It sounds to me as if not enough to be picky enough to weed girls in your social circle out.
 

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let me clarify

I think it's OK being friends with a girl, but I've just seen a lot of posts on here saying the opposite (hence why I asked this way). As for action, less than I'd like at the moment but I should be living in the city in a few months when I transfer to a 4-year school. Can't wait.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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MascaraSnake said:
I think it's OK being friends with a girl, but I've just seen a lot of posts on here saying the opposite (hence why I asked this way). As for action, less than I'd like at the moment but I should be living in the city in a few months when I transfer to a 4-year school. Can't wait.
I don't think there is a definite answer to that question. Anyone who says there is might as well just call themselves ignorant. Everyone has their beliefs. I've seen men who have plenty of girl friends who pull pvssy. The again I've seen men with no girl friends who pull.

Myself, I have a few female friends but this is only because they date my friends. The rest of the women are like a sea of fish waiting to be hooked. I'll make a temporary friend with a chick in class maybe to work to my benefit or what not, but I've yet to have that 'one' great female friend who has been in my life in the tough times and bad. Once again, everyone is different.
 

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Well, I'm in the music department at college, and I have a few different female friends from there. It's no big deal. We share a common interest.

I mean, they still think and talk like girls, not your typical friend, but they are still fun to be around from time to time.
 

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I think it is totally OK for a man to have girl friends, the problem just starts if the guy wants to be more than friends with the girl and develop a platonic relationship with her.

Some girls are better to keep as friends, I have one girl friend who is more loyal and sincere with me than she is with her boyfriend, I consider her as a sister and she consider me as a brother, no problem at all...

Good friendships are always good and a valuable thing in life, no matter if its a guy or a girl.
 

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Three cheers for social proof, yeah?

I have a lot of friends who are girls. And the majority of them, I'd never date; they're just good friends. But, if they're hot, they can be invaluable.


Outside of the superficial realm of things, you can have friends of both sexes. There's no rule stating otherwise. The only thing that can make you an AFC is you, not the people you have in your circle.
 

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my best friend was a girl-- a very hot one at that. The only problem I could see is that she sort of scared away other girls when we went out together. She would have to physically leave before any chics I was talking to felt comfortable. I would get a lot of "Here, take my number before your girlfriend sees me." I got tired of saying "she's not my girlfriend!" over and over. But, other than that small detail, its no big deal really. Nobody cares if you have a friend who is a female and it can help out with other things too.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Having female friends is fine, but only if you can handle it. If you are the kind of guy that quickly falls for any girl you are around then do yourself a favor and don't have lady friends.

Having social proof from her and using her as a wingwoman are completely pointless when she's the one who's pants you want to get into. You are only lying to yourself and her.

Speaking from experience.
 

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A bit off topic, I always found it interesting that drama/theatre people were considered nerds in school, but professional actors in movies and TVs are celebrities and stars. Just a thought.
 
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