"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I WILL get laid before I turn 19 ! ! !

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My B-Day is in March.

Got a long way to go, but I know I can do it.

The plan is to lose all fear of rejection and do cold approaches in a direct manor and adapt ModeOne behaviour.

I want the board to be part of my life changing journey. I will update this thread with FRs.

Project Bada$$ mofo has officially begun...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Went out clubbing tonight.

The club was so loud you couldn't really hear anything. I danced with lots of attention hos, but it didn't lead to anything.
 

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why are you making it a mission to get laid? it's not like you become a superhero or something man.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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IF you just wanna get laid, don't worry about gaming and clubbing. Talk to a girl that's a 6 or 7; you don't need tight game like mystery method for 6s and 7s. Just introduce yourself, be AFC it doesn't matter. Say hi, start a normal conversation, interview style/ whatever. Get a date, make sure to kino them, and try to get a kiss in before the date is over. Then take her back to your place to watch a movie and just **** her there; start with a makeout then your instinct will take over from there. You don't need good game to lay 6s and 7s, especially at your age. You just need to take the initiative. You can do this approach at school. Losing your virginity to a decent looking chick is easy; it's having sex with 8s, 9s, and 10s that takes game.
 

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lol some guys just don't realise how easy it is to get laid. i used to go to parties when i was younger and a girl would just sit on my lap and i'd hit it off from there. too easy! one girl i barely knew sat on my lap at this big ass party... like over 100 people in the backyard just... she sat on my lap, suddenly started moving her stuff in a circular motion on my sh!t. i was looking up into the sky just smiling. took the b!tch in a room and ravaged her.

parties = girls who WANT to fuk.
 

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my advice to you is just go out there and practice. its good you have a goal, now the baby steps is to get experience. every great man has practiced.
 

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NeoDregan said:
Get a job, then spend your cash on blow and hookers.
Thats how I lost my virginity at 22, not recommenced.

For some guys getting sex from normal girls is very difficult. Growing up I was the kind of guy that had zero social life and I was super shy and quiet. I had the wrong friends (guys just like me) and none of us went to the parties and we all graduated High School as girlfriendless virgins.

My advice to the young ones now is to the complete opposite as me. Be as social and outgoing as possible and talk to lots of girls. Avoid oneitis like the plague. Don't be afraid to go after 6's and 7's. Remember the sayings. Ass is ass don't be picky and Pvssy doesn't have a face.
 

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yeah, setting ultimatums is never a good thing... I remember someone wise telling me a long time ago that women are like cats...you know how when you try to chase a cat, they always run away? But if you're minding your own business and ignoring them/doing something else or something they usually just jump up on your lap and won't go away. Same principle.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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yeah, but I wanna bang a hot chick and make her my gf or fvckbuddy.

I will avoid clubs for a while since the hot chicks only go their to get attention and dance.

I'll go to house parties instead.

The problem always is however...

a) her bf is with her

b) she is not attracted enough

c) she is just grinding with me all the time and then she leaves after a while, so I can't talk to her

d) I don't have a car yet

e) she doesn't wanna leave her friends

For some reason although I'm good looking, tall and have a lot going for me besides women it is tough for me to get laid with a hot chick.
 
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Good luck man, I lost mine when I was 19 too.
 

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the thing is I don't just wanna get laid by "Fools Mate". I wanna get laid like a rockstar!

I'll go day sarging today. I'll post the FR later on.
 

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ChrizZ said:
yeah, but I wanna bang a hot chick and make her my gf or fvckbuddy.


For some reason although I'm good looking, tall and have a lot going for me besides women it is tough for me to get laid with a hot chick.
Probably because you smell of desperation and all your concerned about is getting laid before you next birthday! Seriously, man....this isn't American Pie or something...just chill and let things happen. Don't even worry about trying to figure out how to get the every hot chick into bed with you. Worst case scenario, you don't get laid before you turn 19...so what? You need to stop acting like sex is this Holy grail and if you don't get laid before you turn a certain age you'll be deemed a loser forever.

Just keep working on improving yourself and talking to chicks and learning about what turns them on. Take it a little slower, develop a social life, improve your conversational skills and try to have fun!

P.s. What is a "fool's mate"?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yeah don't compromise your standards just to get laid "early". I was almost 19 when I lost it for the first time, with a girl who was my girlfriend and a virgin too. Make it the way you want, but it takes patience.
 

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another night full of rejection. I still had a good time though.

I did prolly like 7 approaches.


an attention wh0re was cleaning the beer pong table

me: "I bet you'll make a good housewife one day"

her: *laughs* "thank you"

me: "You are totally the kind of girl I wanna marry *pause*"

her: "Thank you. You are so nice..."

me: "Yeah... and then divorce you a week later and take half of your money!":crackup:

her: *cracking up* "Wow, you are mean. You should have stopped after the I wanna marry you part"

me: "Yeah, but I'm mean in a nice way though :yes: "

...after that she ejects immediately to go do some more attention wh0ring.

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a chick is standing somewhere with her friends.

I'm standing behind her and tap her on the shoulder and look deep into her eyes.

Me: "Hey, I wanna talk to you for a sec"

*leading her to a different part of the house*

Me: "You are gorgeous and I wanna get to know you better"

her: "I have a bf and he is in there. What's your name though?"

Me: "Doesn't matter, just tell me your name"

her: "HB"

Me: "It was a pleasure to have met you HB"

*eject*

... she really had a bf and he was staring me down all night after that :crackup:

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This is how most of the approaches went. Some chicks flat out lied to me about their bf or they just gave me bad BL and weren't interested at all.


I just don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I'm having a good time and I always grab my balls to approach the hot chicks however it never leads to anything.

It seems like I can't make them attracted to me even though I'm good looking and my BL was good.

I'm beginning to doubt that getting chicks is an actual skill that you can learn. It seems like if you don't have that initial attraction it won't go anywhere. Some guys have it some guys don't.

Who here can prove me wrong?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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