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"I want to fvck you" vs smooth kinoescalation
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It's not either/or.
It's situational.
It's situational.
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Honestly I like the I wanna fvck you much more than the other, I have much more bravery than patience, awfully I found that in 80% of the cases you have to move in the opposite side of the continuum.
Even if a girl is aroused from you, you still have to pass her mental blocks and no girl will ever accept consciously to give herself under such condition unless she is very unihibited mentally, self confident and really wet.
Even with the same girl in different moments one side is better than the other according her mental inhibitons, the first approach works much better on tipsy girls while on a totally clean one would make a mess, some girls may even get a boost by knowing that you want them and deny themselves, they value mental orgasms as much as physical ones.
Even if a girl is aroused from you, you still have to pass her mental blocks and no girl will ever accept consciously to give herself under such condition unless she is very unihibited mentally, self confident and really wet.
Even with the same girl in different moments one side is better than the other according her mental inhibitons, the first approach works much better on tipsy girls while on a totally clean one would make a mess, some girls may even get a boost by knowing that you want them and deny themselves, they value mental orgasms as much as physical ones.
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Nobody has all the answers, not even public gurus. We are all trying what works. Do what fits your personality and gets the job done.
Just remember, the only way to pretty much guarantee a second date is your fvcking her on the first.
Just remember, the only way to pretty much guarantee a second date is your fvcking her on the first.
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Heartiste would say "Only this works. Period." and all his fans would believe it to be true.
That's what I like about this forum. Most users here are mature people that put everything into perspective instead of insisting on one statement and selling it as "the only truth".
That's what I like about this forum. Most users here are mature people that put everything into perspective instead of insisting on one statement and selling it as "the only truth".
What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
if you choose only one to go to all cases you will lose more then win, you choose what works best for the situation and woman, some is better the smoth kino and go building, in others even more when drinks are in play will work better
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It's not about the statement. It's about the man saying it.
If a loser, pimple faced nerd told a super hot girl that he wanted to f*ck her, she would laugh and rightfully so.
If a super hunk told the same girl that he wanted to f*ck her, she would likely strip on the spot.
If a loser, pimple faced nerd told a super hot girl that he wanted to f*ck her, she would laugh and rightfully so.
If a super hunk told the same girl that he wanted to f*ck her, she would likely strip on the spot.
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^ It has more to do with the delivery than your looks. If a nerd loner said that line it would create an instant feeling of attraction due to the crazy nonchalant image it represents. "ARE YOU FVCKING KIDDING ME?! ok, you are confident, that was unexscpected but cute, i like it, lemme get naked in a minute"
The hunk stating he wants to bang is not a surprise as any chick knows what a hunk wants, and he can get it anywhere if he is not pleased with the current chick. "I already know you smug facefvck, but you are obviously wanted by other women so lemme get naked in a minute"
The hunk stating he wants to bang is not a surprise as any chick knows what a hunk wants, and he can get it anywhere if he is not pleased with the current chick. "I already know you smug facefvck, but you are obviously wanted by other women so lemme get naked in a minute"
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Haha. Very true. This reminds me of this thread I wrote seven years ago.El Payaso said:
devilkingx2
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the latter will work way more often and easily than the former.
the latter is for getting her, the former is for when you've pretty much gotten her.
that's in my opinion.
the latter is for getting her, the former is for when you've pretty much gotten her.
that's in my opinion.
SmooveMooves
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Depends on many variables such as; Frame, Demeanor, Appearance, Charisma, Sex appeal, Personality, Market value, The chick herself.
You have to be able to feel her out and determine if she would be accepting of this type of approach. In my opinion, i think this approach is over rated and the risk out weighs the reward. In the event it does work, it is pretty cool though.
You have to be able to feel her out and determine if she would be accepting of this type of approach. In my opinion, i think this approach is over rated and the risk out weighs the reward. In the event it does work, it is pretty cool though.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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ARE YOU REALLY ASKING THIS??? Have all you guys forgotten already? The whole point of kino is to imply sexuality without speaking it. When you speak about sexual topics, that has the same effect as kino. That's why you can't be awkward about touching OR about talking about sex because then you do too little of both. You also can't apply too much sexuality either. Using kinesthetics while speaking about sexual topics is like kinoing too much.
They are essentially the same thing. Well not the same thing but they provide the same outcome. I remember reading a post from one of the legends about this and after some contemplation, I realized that it was true.
They are essentially the same thing. Well not the same thing but they provide the same outcome. I remember reading a post from one of the legends about this and after some contemplation, I realized that it was true.
ImTheDoubleGreatest!
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Doesn't matter, had sex.skinnyguy said:
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Disagree, my performances are average usually, not even sure about that yet all the ones I bang always are willing for more.skinnyguy said:
Girls once invest in you arent that quick to drop it, just remember all the mindfvcks they give themselves.
It hasnt been that rare for me to give a couple of thrusts, cvm and fall asleep right after and the girl still interested in dealing with me.
They dont reason as we do where you call a girl or not according if she blow or not, if she is kinky or boring.
Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.
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zekko
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I've definitely done it both ways, but I bet 99% of the time it is done the second way, and probably rightly so. I think Mystery used to say something like "You don't ASK for a kiss, you just kiss her".
Even though "I want to fvxk you" is not technically asking, I still think the same principle applies. Don't talk about it, do it.
Even though "I want to fvxk you" is not technically asking, I still think the same principle applies. Don't talk about it, do it.
Slash Dolo
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"I wanna f*ck you" makes you sound needy, IMO.It might work on drunk girls or drama seeking girls though if you say it dominantly. "I'm going to f*ck you" makes you sound like a rapist.
Speak with your actions and not your words, always. This is basic stuff but it's the way to go for consistency.
Speak with your actions and not your words, always. This is basic stuff but it's the way to go for consistency.
What is this? The "Worst possible approaches" poll?
Smooth Kino? Is that like an honest hooker or an obedient cat? Find one woman on Earth who says she is seduced by men touching her without her first liking them. They do not exist. This is a dream perpetuated by men who are so desperate to touch someone that they convince themselves girls like it. Never touch a woman who has not touched you first. Ever. This applies in every interaction. Even if it's your girlfriend and you are on your 10th date.
But saying "I want to f*ck you" is indeed even worse.
Smooth Kino? Is that like an honest hooker or an obedient cat? Find one woman on Earth who says she is seduced by men touching her without her first liking them. They do not exist. This is a dream perpetuated by men who are so desperate to touch someone that they convince themselves girls like it. Never touch a woman who has not touched you first. Ever. This applies in every interaction. Even if it's your girlfriend and you are on your 10th date.
But saying "I want to f*ck you" is indeed even worse.
Seriously who is this big neil guy. I didn't know that Donald Trump had an account
Geez even mystery method stuff works most of the time. I don't have 10 percent of g1000s game and I ve kinoed dozens of girls into bed. Of course most of them flake 6 to 8 weeks later but by that time I d had plenty of puss and most of them were far too boring for anything else. The most boring thing was listening to their ASD speech about how they don't normally do this while they were riding my ****. Woman want to f*** its finding one worth keeping and keeping her around that's the challenge.
Geez even mystery method stuff works most of the time. I don't have 10 percent of g1000s game and I ve kinoed dozens of girls into bed. Of course most of them flake 6 to 8 weeks later but by that time I d had plenty of puss and most of them were far too boring for anything else. The most boring thing was listening to their ASD speech about how they don't normally do this while they were riding my ****. Woman want to f*** its finding one worth keeping and keeping her around that's the challenge.